Cure worse than the disease?

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This was a front-page article in yesterday's Washington Post. I'm copying and pasting it here, because often the Post doesn't allow anyone to connect to their links unless they are subscribers.

This is a poignant story of the "other side" of the epidemic, and it's really pretty heartbreaking to think how many lives, careers, businesses, and dreams have been ruined, not only by the disease but also by the fallout. I don't agree with a lot of what he says, especially his resentment about people having to wear masks in his restaurant, but I can sympathize. A neighborhood restaurant run by his family for 60 years is being destroyed, he feels, by all the rules and regulations. Read it and see what you think.
(Please keep this apolitical.)

“It’s like Trump said, the cure has been worse than the disease”
By Mike Fraantuono, as told to Eli Saslow

I grew up inside this restaurant, and now my wife’s helping out in the dining room and my daughter’s working at the hostess stand. This is a family place — four generations and counting. I know every inch of pipe and wire we have running through here. I’ve been the plumber, the busboy, the handyman, the butcher, the bartender, the prep cook, the manager. I’ve done every job there is in this restaurant, and now I’m the one who has to shut us down.

It kills me. We were supposed to be getting ready to celebrate our 60th anniversary this year, and instead we’re packing up and closing at the end of this month. I’ll find another job, but it’s more than that. It’s home. These walls are like a family photo album. I try not to get too sentimental about it, because it won’t change a damn thing, but sometimes the stress hits me and my heart starts going like crazy. I get frustrated. It makes me angry. How does this whole situation make any sense? I don’t know a single person that’s gotten covid, and I know that’s probably lucky, but right now I can tell you about at least a dozen businesses going under and a few hundred people going broke.

I know this virus is real, okay? It’s real and it’s awful. I’m not disputing any of that. But our national hysteria is worse. We allowed the virus to take over our economy, our small businesses, our schools, our social lives, our whole quality of life. We surrendered, and now everything’s infected.

I like to believe this restaurant is resilient. We tried to outlast it. My father worked here five days a week until he died at age 82, so that’s in our DNA. When the governor first shut us down in March, I got together with my brother and my cousin, and we agreed to think of this as an opportunity. The restaurant was doing pretty good at that point. We had a little money to spend. We said: “Let’s reinvest back in the business like it’s supposed to be done.” We remodeled the entire bar. We put in new bathrooms and new draft lines. We gave a tour to a few of our loyal customers, and they said: “Wow. When this place opens up, you’re going to fill it every day. You’ll be back bigger than ever.”

At first the state was only allowing us do carryout. So, okay. We’ve got five dining rooms, 85 employees, and 13,000 square feet of space, and now you want us to operate like your regular old burger shack? How many people do you know who are willing to spend $40 on a lukewarm steak that’s traveled halfway across town? That’s not our typical business. We’re old school. We don’t have frozen hot wings that we heat up and toss in a cardboard box in five minutes. We buy the chicken fresh, cut off the fat, pound it out and bread it. Your wings take 25 minutes while you’re enjoying a conversation and a cocktail or two. But that’s the old world, right? What choice did we have? We redid our carryout menu to cut the prices down and teamed up with DoorDash and Grubhub. We created themed menus for Mother’s Day and Easter. We delivered charity meals out to the hospitals and opened up a crab trailer out front so we could sell by the bushel. We were spending $800 a week on carryout containers, and there’s no real profit in any of it. You lose out on booze. You don’t get the same tips. We kept hanging on through March, April and May, but our revenue was down more than 80 percent. We had to lay off 75 people. That’s 75 families dealing with unemployment and financial hardships, and not because a virus made any of them sick.

When the state opened up for outdoor dining, I ran out to every Costco in the area and bought any picnic table I could find. We got 20 for $150 a piece. We roped off the parking lot and put out buckets of cold beer. We tried to make it look nice, but it’s summer in Baltimore, and it’s 90-some degrees outside and you’re selling cream of crab soup to people who are sweating on the asphalt. Nobody really came. Why would they come? We stood out there for nine hours each day and we waited.

We got more creative. We kept on trying. We opened up at 50 percent capacity and had live music, themed dinners, mystery nights and a meal with a psychic. We reinvented this restaurant a dozen times, but none of it worked.

And what kind of support did we get? More rules. More restrictions. More regulations, mandates and curfews. We have to close at 10 p.m., because I guess maybe covid comes out at 10:01 — except apparently not at the casino down the road, because they have political leverage, and they get to stay open as long as they want. You can sit at our bar and have a drink, but you can’t get up and mingle, because that’s considered a health violation, so now I’m trying to serve you and police you at the same time. “Thanks for coming! We really need your business. Now put on your mask or sit the hell back down!” I have to buy disinfectants, individual ketchups, paper menus, and personal salt-and-pepper shakers or else I might get fined. My employees have to wear their masks all the time, even when they’re alone in an office, but meanwhile we have a group of 40 people in the dining room with no masks on, and that’s deemed safe because they’re drinking water? None of it makes any sense.

We had a customer come in the other day, and she couldn’t get seated because we had a few other tables, and we’d hit our 50 percent capacity in the one dining room she likes. I had to ask her to wait. I’d rather sit her down and take her money. I hate this rule, but now I have to enforce it. But she could see all the empty tables, and she didn’t understand it. She got mad and decided to call 911 and tell them we were over capacity. Two armed police officers came through here. The whole foyer was empty. There was nobody at the bar. I’ve got a max fire rating on the wall for 323 people, and they couldn’t count up to 100. I told them: “I dream about being over capacity, but I doubt it will happen again.”

Sunset Restaurant manager Mike Fratantuono, 57, in the kitchen of his family-run restaurant in Glen Burnie, Md. (Matt Roth for The Washington Post)

It’s like Trump said: The cure has been worse than the disease. People spent too much time at home watching the news all day, drinking in this hysteria until they were spraying down their groceries and afraid to leave home. It became another anti-Trump thing in the press. The impeachment didn’t work, the killer bees didn’t work, so let’s blow covid out of proportion and see if it hurts him. But it’s the rest of us that got hurt. It was day after day of failure. It was a slow and painful death.

We went to see our accountant at the end of the summer. He looked over the numbers but he didn’t say much, and that’s not like him. I said: “What would you do?” He said the way things were going, we’d have nothing left to lose within a few months.

We made the decision right then. There wasn’t much to discuss.

Our last day is September 30th, and then we’re done.
 

If our officials had paid attention at the beginning instead of trying to gloss it over, maybe we'd be like many other countries that got a grip on it early and rode it out (so far) with proportionately far less illness and resulting deaths.

Too little - to late and still we have no nationwide plan to handle it. Seems like every state (and county) for themselves. The above is a sad tale and no one can feel other than sad when reading it. If these folks had their restaurant in Florida, they might well have still been open with no precautions whatever, masks, social distancing, etc..

Maybe after the election, no matter who wins, there will be some sensible handling of the crisis when decision can be made by our medical and scientific community. In the meantime folks like this will continue to suffer due to political motives.
 

My problem with this man's point of view is that, other than sympathizing with him and his family and employees, what would he like to happen in these circumstances? If there were no restrictions, masks weren't required, any number of people were allowed to crowd into the restaurant, etc., where does he think all those customers would be coming from?

It sounds like he is longing for a return to the "good old days" (i.e., last year) before there was a virus. But in reality, those days are gone. There will be no return until there is a widely distributed vaccine.

I don't agree with him that the cure is worse than the disease; it is the disease that is horrible and has caused tragic fallout.
 
When the virus's lethality was noticed, and it's easy spreading; there were two options. One was to do nothing and let nature take it course for the sake of economics, but the death toll would be high; or to take preventative measures against the spread, and thus cripple economic prosperity, but save lives. You can't do both. It's which outcome is more important to you.
 
It's unfortunate that many businesses...especially restaurants, hotels, and anything related to tourism, etc..are suffering badly, as a result of this virus, but the "alternatives" would be far worse. Those who refuse to acknowledge the recommended guidelines of Masks, etc., are putting themselves, and others, at risk. For the foreseeable future, This is the New Reality, and we need to live by it.
 
When the virus's lethality was noticed, and it's easy spreading; there were two options. One was to do nothing and let nature take it course for the sake of economics, but the death toll would be high; or to take preventative measures against the spread, and thus cripple economic prosperity, but save lives. You can't do both. It's which outcome is more important to you.
It's a bit of a tough call.

Here's what puzzles me;

Worldwide deaths from TB; 1.5 million last year

Worldwide deaths from Covid-19 since March to now; less than a million

No pandemic/masks for TB?
 
From my perspective, there is more than one way to look at things, and the article in the OP is one. Other perspectives I have read were put forth by health care people dealing directly with those afflicted by the virus, and those stories are equally compelling. I don't see just one side to this, but instead multiple perspectives depending on what a person is personally experiencing.

If I were a restaurant owner in that OP article's situation, I would most likely feel as he does. If a family member was in the hospital dying from the effects of COVID-19 or a health care professional dealing with that person, I would feel entirely differently. If you don't believe that, consider how we react to and feel about most anything else. Read about somebody killed in a local traffic accident. If we don't know the person, we shrug and move on. If we do, then suddenly it is a whole different story, as but one example.

I think we need to allow for the vast differences in experiences through this whole thing (i.e. walk a mile in another person's shoes...).

I do wear a mask whenever I am outside of our condo, even within our building. I feel that is the least I can do. However, I don't harbor ill will against those like that person in the OP article. I would not want to be in his shoes facing financial ruin and destruction of a long held family legacy. It would be easy for me to judge him from the safety of my own condo, where nobody in our building has gotten sick (yet) from COVID-19, but does that really help the situation?

Getting the entire country to wear masks and adhere to COVID-19 guidelines would be like herding cats. Our country has long held a stance of individual freedoms, especially these days with such a strong sense of entitlement, rather than working toward the common good. It is only in dire situations that we seem to pull together, and for those who have not personally experienced the effects of COVID-19 directly as in getting very sick or having a loved one die, it can be difficult to relate to. As other posters have pointed out, each state and even counties within a state seem to have differing guidelines and laws regarding addressing COVID-19. Without strong, consistent and unified leadership from the top down, we should expect what we are seeing these days - a wide range of conformance to a patchwork of guidelines.

Tony
 
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When the virus's lethality was noticed, and it's easy spreading; there were two options. One was to do nothing and let nature take it course for the sake of economics, but the death toll would be high; or to take preventative measures against the spread, and thus cripple economic prosperity, but save lives. You can't do both. It's which outcome is more important to you.

I feel like we got the worst of both worlds. If we had gone "full Sweden" the death toll might have been higher (or not) but we would be returning to normal with less damage to the economy. A German-type response was probably impossible -- even with a different administration -- because of the Federal system and the unwillingness of people to cooperate. As it is, the virus lingers, the death toll mounts and the next round of economic damage is around the corner.
 
It's a terrible shame and he is not alone. There have been many other businesses to go under due to this pandemic. I surely have no answer. Telling someone that they just have to suck it up isn't going to make them feel any better.

A friend of mine from church has a small gun shop where he sells some of the smaller weapons and does repairs. His license only allows him to sell 'x' amount of ammo and to only have 'x' amount of ammo on hand.

A month ago, he asked me what would happen if he took off his sign that everyone entering his business must wear a mask. I told him honestly that I didn't know because I was out of the loop. He would be better off checking with his attorney. He felt that making people wear a mask was costing him business. I asked him what made him think that. He said that he has noticed several people walk up to his store's door, read the mask sign and turn around and leave.
 
I'm not a huge fan of government bailouts but I'm not in charge of that so I watch, listen and wonder along with the rest of America.

Wasn't the $2.2 trillion CARES program -

https://time.com/5845116/coronavirus-bailout-rich-richer/

supposed to help honest, hard working small business owners in America stay afloat during this time of unexpected financial crisis. Here is someone who appears to have done all the right things and still loses.

Big, national chains had no problem accessing money. Why not the small, independent business owners?

America's greatness came about on the backs of its small business owners who were willing to work hard, sacrifice and do the right thing. What happened?
 
Right now the "excess death rate" (number above or below average weekly deaths) is lower, rather than higher than average. So fewer people in the US are dying each week than there were before the virus.

I don't know how that should affect public health policy, if at all.

https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid
That's something I've been wondering about. If the vast majority of Covid deaths are the elderly with very compromised health issues, is the virus out right killing them, or merely hastening their deaths. I don't mean to be inhumane , That's quite easy to do when someone else is doing the dying. Yet, if the virus causes deaths in people, who are for lack of a better term on their way out, why wear masks, destroy the economy, etc? Thankfully, it's not my decision.
 
And TB is definitely airborne. They're not 100% certain about Covid.

Dysentery and diarrheal diseases kill 1.6 million people each year. The prevention/cure is access to clean water. But this is a third world issue so only people like Bill and Melinda Gates seem to be worrying about it.
 
That's something I've been wondering about. If the vast majority of Covid deaths are the elderly with very compromised health issues, is the virus out right killing them, or merely hastening their deaths. I don't mean to be inhumane , That's quite easy to do when someone else is doing the dying. Yet, if the virus causes deaths in people, who are for lack of a better term on their way out, why wear masks, destroy the economy, etc? Thankfully, it's not my decision.

Nor mine. I avoid groups and wear masks when I go inside a store. But I try not to overdramatize the danger, real as it is.
 
It's a bit of a tough call.

Here's what puzzles me;

Worldwide deaths from TB; 1.5 million last year

Worldwide deaths from Covid-19 since March to now; less than a million

No pandemic/masks for TB?

I think the difference is that TB isn't a pandemic, and isn't even an epidemic in most western countries. I looked it up and for 2019, there were only 515 deaths in the US, FAR fewer than covid. There's also a vaccine for TB, but what I read said it isn't used widely in the US.
 
It's a bit of a tough call.

Here's what puzzles me;

Worldwide deaths from TB; 1.5 million last year

Worldwide deaths from Covid-19 since March to now; less than a million

No pandemic/masks for TB?

It is a pandemic in some countries but it is not a worldwide pandemic (using the definition that says pandemic can be applied to a country or the world). They might be masking up there to prevent the spread of TB in their countries. According to a WHO report, 30 countries represent 87% of all cases and 8 countries represent about 66% of all cases. It also seems that being HIV infected significantly increases the chances of getting TB. So I think those are the differences that make the reaction to TB significantly different.

Here's the WHO report I read https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/tuberculosis
 
Here's what my daughter said about it. She is less sympathetic to this guy than I am. Probably she's right. So he has to shut down his business and find another job? He's in his 50's, and many people change careers at that age for all kinds of reasons. It's a shame, but the cure really can't be considered worse than the disease.

Yes, I saw it, and I posted a pretty visceral response to it. A million people have now died and we’re supposed to feel sorry for him because he renovated his restaurant and now it’s folding? Maybe he should read the articles written by health care workers who have had to stack bodies in refrigerated trucks where there weren’t enough body bags and they had to step around body fluids. Or from the countless numbers of people who couldn’t say goodbye to a relative in a nursing home, or one of its staff members. Or now from the teachers who are bringing Covid home to their families. (Yesterday I read a headline about one whose elderly mother died). And he thinks he’s the only business owner whose doors are closing?

Just wait until the one year extension on foreclosures for missed mortgage payments starts. (In March). Then the fun will really begin.

I’m sorry his business closed. But I’m a lot sorrier about a lot of other things.
 
With 85 employees, he could have gotten a pretty big bailout through the PPP. Instead, it sounds like he used that money for remodeling. Plus, his father built that business -- he didn't...
 
From my perspective, there is more than one way to look at things, and the article in the OP is one. Other perspectives I have read were put forth by health care people dealing directly with those afflicted by the virus, and those stories are equally compelling. I don't see just one side to this, but instead multiple perspectives depending on what a person is personally experiencing.

If I were a restaurant owner in that OP article's situation, I would most likely feel as he does. If a family member was in the hospital dying from the effects of COVID-19 or a health care professional dealing with that person, I would feel entirely differently. If you don't believe that, consider how we react to and feel about most anything else. Read about somebody killed in a local traffic accident. If we don't know the person, we shrug and move on. If we do, then suddenly it is a whole different story, as but one example.

I think we need to allow for the vast differences in experiences through this whole thing (i.e. walk a mile in another person's shoes...).

I do wear a mask whenever I am outside of our condo, even within our building. I feel that is the least I can do. However, I don't harbor ill will against those like that person in the OP article. I would not want to be in his shoes facing financial ruin and destruction of a long held family legacy. It would be easy for me to judge him from the safety of my own condo, where nobody in our building has gotten sick (yet) from COVID-19, but does that really help the situation?

Getting the entire country to wear masks and adhere to COVID-19 guidelines would be like herding cats. Our country has long held a stance of individual freedoms, especially these days with such a strong sense of entitlement, rather than working toward the common good. It is only in dire situations that we seem to pull together, and for those who have not personally experienced the effects of COVID-19 directly as in getting very sick or having a loved one die, it can be difficult to relate to. As other posters have pointed out, each state and even counties within a state seem to have differing guidelines and laws regarding addressing COVID-19. Without strong, consistent and unified leadership from the top down, we should expect what we are seeing these days - a wide range of conformance to a patchwork of guidelines.

Tony
Very well said once again!

You make so much good sense Tony.
 


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