Daughter accused in fatal beating of 85-year-old mom who left her out of will

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Not only does she not get an inheritance... she gets the booby prize = prison.


Daughter accused in fatal beating of 85-year-old mom who left her out of will

" A Fort Lauderdale woman who said she was angry about not receiving an inheritance beat her mother, who later died from her injuries, police say. "

more at link

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/b...derdale-fatal-mom-beating-20180716-story.html

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That's sickening! There must have been some good reasons she was left out of the will. What happened to the days when people just got mad, now they have to resort to extreme physical violence. I can't imagine what that mother felt like when she was getting skinned and beaten, the daughter deserves prison. RIP.
 

SeaBreeze said:
That's sickening! There must have been some good reasons she was left out of the will. What happened to the days when people just got mad, now they have to resort to extreme physical violence. I can't imagine what that mother felt like when she was getting skinned and beaten, the daughter deserves prison. RIP.
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The abusive murdering daughter deserves the death penalty... but that won't happen.

No justice = No peace

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Don't you get a strong feeling the whole story hasn't been told? Nothing justifies the act. It was horrendous.

But it sets my mind to wondering about that family of kids recently who were discovered to have been shackled to beds and other pieces of furniture for most of their young lives, fed starvation rations while their parents taunted them by eating desert in front of them. These kids had been beaten, raped, dehumanized, but were happily discovered before they died. Still ... fast-forward thirty years. How much of the brutality to which they were subjected have they internalized, and how much of their brutal anger has been reconstituted, reconfigured and might be redirected to who knows what innocent adoptive parent? Or innocent strangers in a movie theater? Or children in their school classrooms? Or audience watching a country music concert in Las Vegas?

This is all just speculation. But dontcha know some smart defense attorney is going to be doing some deep dredging into his client's past!

Jay
 
Jay, I agree. Probably in most cases of brutality, the perpetrator was subjected to cruelty during their own childhood. And so it goes on, down through the generations.
 
Not all victims of severe childhood abuse carry on the legacy. Some actually stop the cycle.
Childhood abuse definitely has a lifelong impact though.
If this is the case then I sincerely hope she gets the help she so desperately needs whether that’s behind bars or not.
 
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Wonders never cease...

Posters here admit they don't know the daughter or the details... only that she brutally murdered her mother. Yet it appears they have "remote viewed" the case and determined the daughter is the real victim... and if they were the judge, they'd let her go free with OP psychotherapy.
 
KingsX said:
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Wonders never cease...

Posters here admit they don't know the daughter or the details... only that she brutally murdered her mother. Yet it appears they have "remote viewed" the case and determined the daughter is the real victim... and if they were the judge, they'd let her go free with OP psychotherapy.
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I don't get that impression. There are merely some comments that violence is often a learned behavior. Where did anyone say that that she should go free with OP psychotherapy?
 
It was just a week or two ago we saw the opposite with a 92 year old mom killing her son because she couldn't live with him. I think part of the issue is that society doesn't quite know what to do with seniors that are living longer and longer.

One of best things that can be done is to do everything possible that us old folk remain as independent as possible. Both situations might not have occurred if the seniors were more independent/self sufficient. Problem is now too many have been groomed over the decades that they will be taken care of in their old age so don't worry about fitness, finance or doing the very things that got one into retirement. It's as if one is told to turn off the switch at 65.
 
KingsX said:
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Wonders never cease...

Posters here admit they don't know the daughter or the details... only that she brutally murdered her mother. Yet it appears they have "remote viewed" the case and determined the daughter is the real victim... and if they were the judge, they'd let her go free with OP psychotherapy.
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I will say if the mother resents her daughter that much why did she accept her help or let her live there. That being said no matter any long standing issues the daughter had 50 years, a half century to work on her people skills among other things. Some people gain wisdom & discipline with age. Others don't even try.
 
U.S.
Day care owner gets probation for trying to kill toddler


U.S.
Day care owner gets probation for trying to kill toddler
Associated Press Associated Press Mon, Jul 16 7:00 PM PDT
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MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — A Minneapolis day care owner was sentenced Monday to 10 years of probation for trying to kill a toddler in her home by hanging him.


Nataliia Karia, 43, received her punishment in Hennepin County court after pleading guilty to attempted murder and third-degree assault earlier. She also pleaded guilty to criminal vehicular operation for hitting a pedestrian, a bicyclist and another driver as she fled from her home in a minivan in November 2016.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/day-care-owner-gets-probation-trying-kill-child-223552842.html




Different state different judge makes a difference.


Judge Jay Quam agreed with the assessment by doctors that Karia was "a low risk" to reoffend. He called her actions "the perfect storm of factors unlikely to ever be repeated.


Low risk in the daughter killing her mother again. <---- Not trying to post a sic comment just pointing out how ridiculous our justice system can be at times.
 
Knight said:
U.S.
Day care owner gets probation for trying to kill toddler


U.S.
Day care owner gets probation for trying to kill toddler
Associated Press Associated Press Mon, Jul 16 7:00 PM PDT
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MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — A Minneapolis day care owner was sentenced Monday to 10 years of probation for trying to kill a toddler in her home by hanging him.


Nataliia Karia, 43, received her punishment in Hennepin County court after pleading guilty to attempted murder and third-degree assault earlier. She also pleaded guilty to criminal vehicular operation for hitting a pedestrian, a bicyclist and another driver as she fled from her home in a minivan in November 2016.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/day-care-owner-gets-probation-trying-kill-child-223552842.html




Different state different judge makes a difference.


Judge Jay Quam agreed with the assessment by doctors that Karia was "a low risk" to reoffend. He called her actions "the perfect storm of factors unlikely to ever be repeated.


Low risk in the daughter killing her mother again. <---- Not trying to post a sic comment just pointing out how ridiculous our justice system can be at times.
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According to the article, the daycare owner emigrated from the Ukraine in 2006. Question: Why is she not being deported?
 
WhatInThe said:
I will say if the mother resents her daughter that much why did she accept her help or let her live there.
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Since other posters here are busy speculating in the murderer's [daughter's] behalf. I will also speculate
in the victim's [mother's] behalf. Maybe the daughter couldn't make it on her own and her mother allowed
her to live with her [versus being on the streets] and gave her room and board in exchange for help around
the house. Maybe the mother intentionally did not put her in the will because she is not responsible with
money or maybe she is a drug addict. Drug addicts have been known to kill relatives for money to buy drugs.
There was another such case on true crime ID/Discovery where a drug addict daughter killed her mother
because her mother would not give her money to buy drugs. The news report I posted did mention the
daughter had gone through the mother's papers. Maybe that is where she found the will... maybe she
had intentions to kill her mother for her inheritance [that has been done many times before by others]
and flew off the handle in a drug addict rage when she discovered she was not in the will.

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Knight said:
U.S.
Day care owner gets probation for trying to kill toddler


U.S.
Day care owner gets probation for trying to kill toddler
Associated Press Associated Press Mon, Jul 16 7:00 PM PDT
Reactions Reblog on Tumblr Share Tweet Email
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — A Minneapolis day care owner was sentenced Monday to 10 years of probation for trying to kill a toddler in her home by hanging him.


Nataliia Karia, 43, received her punishment in Hennepin County court after pleading guilty to attempted murder and third-degree assault earlier. She also pleaded guilty to criminal vehicular operation for hitting a pedestrian, a bicyclist and another driver as she fled from her home in a minivan in November 2016.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/day-care-owner-gets-probation-trying-kill-child-223552842.html




Different state different judge makes a difference.


Judge Jay Quam agreed with the assessment by doctors that Karia was "a low risk" to reoffend. He called her actions "the perfect storm of factors unlikely to ever be repeated.


Low risk in the daughter killing her mother again. <---- Not trying to post a sic comment just pointing out how ridiculous our justice system can be at times.
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I read a news article about this injustice yesterday. This psycho is released back on society like so many other deadly criminals [like rapists and murderers] have been released the past several decades. Many of them do repeat their crimes. When a child is abducted and murdered... one of the first things police do is look at the list of released sex offenders and murderers in the area. The reason violent crime is growing is because there is no true justice for the victims. Like the meme says... "No Justice = No Peace."
 
KingsX said:
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Wonders never cease...

Posters here admit they don't know the daughter or the details... only that she brutally murdered her mother. Yet it appears they have "remote viewed" the case and determined the daughter is the real victim... and if they were the judge, they'd let her go free with OP psychotherapy.
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I don’t get that impression at all. Some people merely stated that there must be more to the story. Nobody even hinted that the murderer was the victim here. Nobody even hinted that daughter should go free.
Perhaps you are reading into it.
 
KingsX said:
Since other posters here are busy speculating in the murderer's [daughter's] behalf. I will also speculate
in the victim's [mother's] behalf. Maybe the daughter couldn't make it on her own and her mother allowed
her to live with her [versus being on the streets] and gave her room and board in exchange for help around
the house. Maybe the mother intentionally did not put her in the will because she is not responsible with
money or maybe she is a drug addict. Drug addicts have been known to kill relatives for money to buy drugs.
There was another such case on true crime ID/Discovery where a drug addict daughter killed her mother
because her mother would not give her money to buy drugs. The news report I posted did mention the
daughter had gone through the mother's papers. Maybe that is where she found the will... maybe she
had intentions to kill her mother for her inheritance [that has been done many times before by others]
and flew off the handle in a drug addict rage when she discovered she was not in the will.

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I haven't read it but I thinking somekind of drug history as well. Rule number 1, don't enable the addict with money. And yes letting her live there for help around the house is a real possibility.

There is a sense of entitlement with that daughter. I've actually heard of cases where the older kids are mad at the older parents for not renovating their house before they pass or go into a nursing home. The same kids had drug/alcohol issues throughout their life and have stuck their parents for 10s of thousand of dollars in unpaid loans. Family stuff can get ugly in a real hurry. This is why parents or even grand parents have to address drug addicted family as soon as possible by not enabling and/or validating their behavior. It is not a phase, they won't grow out of it and time won't cure it.
 
Well, my 2 cents worth is that no matter what the mother had done to daughter in the past or what issues the daughter or mother had, there is NOTHING that could justify that degree of brutality. The dead mother is the victim here, not the daughter.
 
Butterfly said:
Well, my 2 cents worth is that no matter what the mother had done to daughter in the past or what issues the daughter or mother had, there is NOTHING that could justify that degree of brutality. The dead mother is the victim here, not the daughter.
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In the end you had a 1/2 century old woman who had 50 years to learn right from wrong regardless of parenting. She failed that lesson miserably.
 
I don't understand the extremely light sentence in this case. Sounds like the judge is nuttier than the perpetrator, who will go on to commit more offenses, you can count on it.
 
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