Death in the Near Future

Alligatorob said:
It happens.

My great-grandfather lived to 102, he had a bit too much to drink, climbed a tree, and fell out. Died of his injuries. I can't think of a better way, or time, to go. Its my goal in life.
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My grandfather roofed his house at age 92, lived to be 97, his brother took his first ever helicopter ride on his 100th birthday, he lived to 102, their sister lived to be 101. ā¤ļø
 

We, and the entire family, are in a state of "limbo", waiting for a phone call from Denver. My Sister is in her final days, and the people at the care facility expect her to pass at any time...hours, or days, at best. Trying to book a last minute flight is very "iffy", so when we get the word, we will probably hitch a ride with our daughter and SIL, and drive there for the funeral.

We've been mentally preparing for this for quite some time, but that doesn't make things any easier.
 

Don M. said:
We, and the entire family, are in a state of "limbo", waiting for a phone call from Denver. My Sister is in her final days, and the people at the care facility expect her to pass at any time...hours, or days, at best. Trying to book a last minute flight is very "iffy", so when we get the word, we will probably hitch a ride with our daughter and SIL, and drive there for the funeral.

We've been mentally preparing for this for quite some time, but that doesn't make things any easier.
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Sorry to hear that Don, how old is your sister ?
 
I'm not worried about death because it is not something I will ever experience. In fact, life is all I will ever know. However, that having been said, I do fear dying and hope it won't be painful.
 
hollydolly said:
Sorry to hear that Don, how old is your sister ?
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She just turned 78, and both she and the BIL have been suffering from Dementia for the past 3 or 4 years. Neither have any idea of what's going on, and Sis has refused to eat, etc., for the past few weeks....loosing weight rapidly, and totally incoherent.

The big mystery, for everyone, is What caused both of them to decline. They, mostly He, refused to go to the doctors when everyone first noted their symptoms. They did agree to a house inspection, in case there was any "environmental" issues...asbestos, etc.....which showed nothing. Now, its too late. Only an autopsy might give us any clues. I suspect they ate something....perhaps Sushi, which was contaminated with a parasite that attacked their brains.
 
I think we should just try to live our lives and not dwell on the end. We just never know. Have our affairs in order, clutter cleared from our homes (someone else would just have to do it) and do what makes us happy. Someone told me once the only way to not get old is to die young. That is so true.

In my family, my mother and 3 siblings died in their 60s. My father died at 95 and his twin sister at 105. I'm 75 soon to be 76. My only wish is to not suffer at the end. Today's medicine & hospice does not usually allow suffering.

Live for today and try to not dwell on what might happen. You can't control it anyway.
 
I have a unique hypothesis I could argue some, that the reason Adam and his descendants like Methusalah live hundreds of years was possibly due to genetic engineering by UIE's. Thus points to some weak evidence of what might be possible with human life longevity in the future. Also the "Tree of Life" may have been used to produce supplementary nutrients the body could not produce and medicines that prolongued life well beyond the 900 years of age or so years reached in Genesis. In our not too distant future, there is certain to be nutrients, medicines, and food directly grown from genetically modified plants and trees. Well until Adam and Eve ate the "apple".

https://www.livescience.com/38613-genetic-adam-and-eve-uncovered.html
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By assuming a mutation rate anchored to archaeological events (such as the migration of people across the Bering Strait), the team concluded that all males in their global sample shared a single male ancestor in Africa roughly 125,000 to 156,000 years ago.

This Wikipedia link thoroughly summarizes the several pseudoscience popular ancient astronaut theories like the Annunaki, Genesis and Book of Enoch texts, that some suggest aliens did some genetic engineering on homo sapiens. Not one that expects any of those popular ideas float but together with Genesis scripture points to directions worth consideration. Many good reference links at end.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_astronauts
 
I'm 82, DH is 84 So we both beat the odds. I had an aunt who was very upset when she knew she was going to die from colon cancer like her brother (my father). She kept saying it wasn't fair she was in her 80's, her last words to me and she was pretty well doped to the gills were "It's not fair" and I wondered who it would be fair for. My father died of it before he was even 60! My father used cancer to try to get me to do whatever he wanted me to do from the time I was a little girl. He had so many cancers that when he actually had it, I found it hard to feel sorry for him I felt like he begged for it. As a result I refuse to have cancer! I hope when my time to die comes that I do it better than either one of them!
 
When we die, we totally cease to exist. All pain and suffering also cease to exist. Thus, Father Death IS Jesus Christ and takes away all our pain and suffering.
 
I mentioned earlier that my mother passed away at 89 y/o. She was bedridden for her last 30 days and just kept saying "why is this happening to me?" There were so many answers, but none that we could share with her. I think if we just understand the inevitability of dying we will understand why it is happening.
 
dseag2 said:
I mentioned earlier that my mother passed away at 89 y/o. She was bedridden for her last 30 days and just kept saying "why is this happening to me?" There were so many answers, but none that we could share with her. I think if we just understand the inevitability of dying we will understand why it is happening.
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I'm 87 now and just this morning (6:45 AM) I woke with Level 10 pain in lower back, legs and feet. I have spinal arthritis which radiates pain and impairment to my lower back, legs and feet. It's getting almost impossible for me to get out of bed plus a wheel chair may be in my near future. I do have a Living Will and Advanced Directive which allows me to refuse all treatment including nutrition and hydration and just go. John McCain and Barbara Bush both went that way at their end. However, then my pain passes like just now and i change my mind and just keep plodding on. The other option is a trip to Switzerland where their doctors have a legal right to administer euthanasia. However, the flight to there from where I live in Connecticut, USA, would be about 8 hours and at my level of incapacity and pain it would just be too much for me.

However. just sitting here at my PC and typing all this made my pain drop to level 4 and I've decided to live on. I believe old age is for the birds and euthanasia should be legalized fpr everyone age 75 or older. No one should have to die a long, slow death over many years.
 
Mitch86 said:
I'm 87 now and just this morning (6:45 AM) I woke with Level 10 pain in lower back, legs and feet. I have spinal arthritis which radiates pain and impairment to my lower back, legs and feet. It's getting almost impossible for me to get out of bed plus a wheel chair may be in my near future. I do have a Living Will and Advanced Directive which allows me to refuse all treatment including nutrition and hydration and just go. John McCain and Barbara Bush both went that way at their end. However, then my pain passes like just now and i change my mind and just keep plodding on. The other option is a trip to Switzerland where their doctors have a legal right to administer euthanasia. However, the flight to there from where I live in Connecticut, USA, would be about 8 hours and at my level of incapacity and pain it would just be too much for me.

However. just sitting here at my PC and typing all this made my pain drop to level 4 and I've decided to live on. I believe old age is for the birds and euthanasia should be legalized fpr everyone age 75 or older. No one should have to die a long, slow death over many years.
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I have always believed we should have the right to chose when we die, and I believe many would chose a merciful death as opposed to a long drawn out suffering end.

The problem is most of us never get the choice. You get sick or get hurt, end up in the hospital and then straight into a nursing home to linger for years.

Maybe we all need a cyanide tooth in our mouths to bite down on when the time is right. Of course with my luck I will go senile and forget it's therešŸ˜‚
 
dseag2 said:
It is certainly not how long we live, but the quality of life we have in our declining years that makes the difference. My grandfather lived to 98 y/o, although the last few he was bedridden. He smoked his entire life. My mother (his daughter) lived to 89 y/o, even after having strokes, heart problems and epilepsy. She couldn't even qualify for long-term health insurance in her 50's. She was only uncomfortable for her last 30 days. I have a friend who is 95 y/o and smoked much of her life. She suffered a stroke many years ago but made a full recovery. She is still fully mobile, lives alone and drives. She retired from her job this year.

I know there are lots of statistics, but in many cases I think it is all luck of the draw.
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You are so right. Both of my grandmothers lived to 98, but with very different quality of life. Contrary to what most would expect the one who had the 'easier' life in general had the poorer quality of life her last 15-20 yrs.

The working class one who was widowed with young children during the 1920s, and continued to work as a cleaning woman well beyond retirement age despite being obese, is the one who's mind was fully functional to the very end.
 
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Death is a possibility from the moment of conception. Ask anyone who's infant or child has died. Meanwhile suffering seniors often wonder why it won't happen already. I absolutely believe in right to go out on our terms when body and/or mind failing because i believe quality of life matters more than length of it.

For the same reason (the importance of quality of life), i prefer to focus on coping with the downside of ageing body (declining stamina and increasing aches/pains) for as long as i can. While i don't ignore the realities of ageing, i also don't give them more attention than they deserve. i plan on doing as much good for others with my limited resources and how i live day to day for as long i'm able.

Let me repeat death is a possibility every second of every day at any age. I realized how much of an illusion 'security' is when in my teens. You can get ill at any age, a drunk driver could kill you by accident; an exlover, or a current one's jealous ex could kill you on purpose; a mass shooter in a public place could take you out or an armed robber breaking into your home; a meteor or statistically more likely a malfunctioning airplane could fall out of sky and land on any of us even as we sit here communicating.

So find what joy you can where and when you can.
 
Don M. said:
She just turned 78, and both she and the BIL have been suffering from Dementia for the past 3 or 4 years. Neither have any idea of what's going on, and Sis has refused to eat, etc., for the past few weeks....loosing weight rapidly, and totally incoherent.

The big mystery, for everyone, is What caused both of them to decline. They, mostly He, refused to go to the doctors when everyone first noted their symptoms. They did agree to a house inspection, in case there was any "environmental" issues...asbestos, etc.....which showed nothing. Now, its too late. Only an autopsy might give us any clues. I suspect they ate something....perhaps Sushi, which was contaminated with a parasite that attacked their brains.
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Am I the only person whose never heard of this as a possible cause of Dementia?... :oops::unsure:
 
feywon said:
I can't remember which food(s) could be a factor,likely at any age i eould think, but i have a vague memory of hearing something like that-- just checked infected beef (so called mad cow disease)
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yes but tbf that's pretty rare... I've not heard of any correlation between food generally and Dementia, if there is, I'm very interested in learning about it
 
hollydolly said:
Am I the only person whose never heard of this as a possible cause of Dementia?... :oops::unsure:
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I have done a fair amount of research on Dementia, over the past few months. Dementia is a "condition" with many causes, and there is little that can be done to reduce the symptoms and effects, unless it is diagnosed in its early stages. Some of it can be "genetic", while other causes can be due to diseases which can affect the neurological systems. One of the causes is exposure to contaminated food or water which contains bacteria or parasites which attack the organs, and the brain. There are several internet sites which describe the potential causes.

I tend to lean towards the "contamination" possibilities, as Sis and her husband both began to decline at the same time.

We got the Phone Call this morning....Sis is gone, and the BIL is not far behind.
 

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