Death Penalty

Are you for or against the death penalty?

  • Yes, I am for it.

    Votes: 9 40.9%

  • No, I am against it.

    Votes: 7 31.8%

  • Depends on the crime/evidence

    Votes: 6 27.3%
  • Total voters
    22
  • Poll closed .
Judicial homicide can and does result in innocent people being killed, so I am against the death penalty.
This is not to say that I don't think that some crimes deserve it but the misapplication of the law cannot be eliminated with 100% certainty. I don't accept the execution of the innocent to be an acceptable instance of collateral damage.
 

We are far too soft and continue to keep monsters alive who don't deserve to live, so yes I would vote to bring back the death penalty, even though it will never happen.
 
I am not in favour of the death penalty but I have often wondered about people that are in favour of the death penalty, if they could actually do the deed themselves.
 
Kaya said:
Yes. I could do it, Bee. Looking at the pics of the victims? Yep. I could.
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....and how would you feel further down the line to find out that person was innocent and should never have been put to death.

We have had a few high profile cases in the U.K. where it has been found a person should never have been hung.
 
I am completely for the death penalty.
I just wish the criminals who do get a sentence of death didn't then sit in prison for decades while their cases go through countless appeals.
 
I feel 'bad' when I forget someone's birthday.
If I executed an innocent man or woman, I don't think 'bad' would cover it.
And I don't think it would be adequate to describe the feelings of his/her relatives.

But the person who was really guilty probably would feel very relieved.

What is the acceptable ratio of executions of guilty people to innocent ones? 10:1, 100:1. 1000:1 or 1,000,000 to 1 ?
I guess the answer to that question depends on whether you are the one on death row and know that you are innocent.

I've heard of The Justice Project where convicted inmates can get help to prove their innocence. Of course, to do that, you have to be still alive.

This case study shows how innocent people can be found easily guilty. In this case, he was not sentenced to death and the injustice was eventually corrected. This is from the Arizona Justice Project

Brandon Jordan

Wrongfully Convicted

Brandon Jordan, convicted for a murder he did not commit, was released on December 6, 2013, with the help of the Arizona Justice Project. Brandon's case had facts that did not add up. Brandon was convicted in 2006 for murder and aggravated assault. The incident occurred two years prior (January 22, 2004) and went unsolved for almost a year before he was arrested. One major problem with the State's version of events, according to police reports, was that the gun allegedly used in the shooting was in police custody 26 minutes before the shooting occurred.

This problem apparently went unnoticed by detectives and attorneys (prosecution and defense) and, after being passed from attorney to attorney, Jordan's fourth attorney convinced him to accept a plea offer. Brandon did so but regretted it and wrote a letter to the judge asking to withdraw from the plea. The judge denied his request. Brandon was sentenced to 13 years in prison for the crime.

In 2011, Brandon contacted the Justice Project and upon review of the facts and timeline of events, the Project accepted Brandon's case. The Project filed a Petition for Post-Conviction Relief and ultimately came to a resolution of the case with the Pinal County Attorney. Jordan was released from prison December 6, 2013, after spending 8 years and 5 months incarcerated for a crime he did not commit.
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Who said convict and execute on the same day? Why bother with a trial at all? Vigilante justice is a lot cheaper after all.
 
An animal called Warren Ross has just been sentenced to a minimum of 30 years yesterday for killing his girlfriend’s 2 year old daughter. Her mother Donna Deaves, a mother of three, had only moved in with him a few weeks earlier and did nothing to stop the abuse of her daughter.

But the little girl couldn’t get toilet trained quick enough for Ross and he killed her after she soiled herself while running laps around the lounge room as punishment.
He took her to the shower and Ms Deaves heard a "shuddering thud" from the bathroom and went to look. "You don't like cold water do you?" Ross said to Tanilla. "You don't shit in my house, you're an animal." She was shivering and her mother said`that's enough; she doesn't look good'." Ross slapped Deaves hard in the face and shoved her away. He banged Tanilla's head, which he was still holding onto, into the glass of the shower twice. Then he held Tanilla over the toilet by one leg as she cried and screamed. He shouted at her: "You're a black dog, you're a black ****." He kicked and shoved Tanilla and she hit her head on a cupboard.
She was left in a pram that Thursday night until Saturday morning - entirely ignored by the family - before she was discovered dead from a cerebral haematoma caused by severe bleeding on her brain.
This man deserves a bullet, right between the eyes and I'd be happy to pull the trigger.
 
With the advancement of DNA the death penalty should be bought back.
A short rope and a long drop will solve a lot of problems. Plus millions of pounds saved in keeping them in luxury in her Majesty's hotels..
 
I am against. I feel that if we kill the murderers, we are doing exactly the same thing that they did. I do think that they should be put in special jails with no tvs etc. Basic food and drink and hard labour for the rest of their lives and should not be let out. (However, I know it would be against their 'civil rights' as usual).
 
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Violent crimes are not deterred by the death penalty but that is not why I am against it.

I don't think anyone has the right to end the life of another person. Unfortunately, our collective world has not yet evolved to this realization.
 
back in the old days when Britians prisons were overflowing they took them to an island called Australia. and we have have plenty. some surrounded by sharks. just a thought
 

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