Deeper Ties to Corporate Cash for Doubtful Climate Researcher

This winter is the result of the fact that, "IT'S WINTER" !!!!!!!

Gene

um.... you DO understand that a warmer earth causes more water evaporation.... and more water evaporation causes more water in the air... and when it's winter and it's cold.... that's called SNOW... Yes.. we are having much more snow.. and more severe storms due to global warming. You cannot look at one winter.. you have to look at the trend throughout year.. 2014 was the warmest globally on record.
 
um.... you DO understand that a warmer earth causes more water evaporation.... and more water evaporation causes more water in the air... and when it's winter and it's cold.... that's called SNOW... Yes.. we are having much more snow.. and more severe storms due to global warming. You cannot look at one winter.. you have to look at the trend throughout year.. 2014 was the warmest globally on record.

But the real experts claim we are in a period of cooling. And I agree, dont looks at one winter. I spent much of the 1960's stuck in the snow and mud feeding cattle. Problem now is we get super saturated with weather coverage. When people watch 23 hours of idiot weater "forcasters" blabbering about how bad the weather is, everyone assumes it is bad.

The same people that told us eggs were bad, now say they are OK. Today we were told we have been treating children completely wrong in regards to peanut allergies.

This same type of pointy head, elite agencies claim they can predict the temperature of the earth + or - 1/2 degree in 50 years??? Yeah, I believe that. They dont have a frickin' clue.

Gene
 
But the real experts claim we are in a period of cooling. And I agree, dont looks at one winter. I spent much of the 1960's stuck in the snow and mud feeding cattle. Problem now is we get super saturated with weather coverage. When people watch 23 hours of idiot weater "forcasters" blabbering about how bad the weather is, everyone assumes it is bad.

The same people that told us eggs were bad, now say they are OK. Today we were told we have been treating children completely wrong in regards to peanut allergies.

This same type of pointy head, elite agencies claim they can predict the temperature of the earth + or - 1/2 degree in 50 years??? Yeah, I believe that. They dont have a frickin' clue.

Gene


Real experts? Follow the MONEY Gene.... Find out who is PAYING them to say what they say... The Fossil fuel industry paid for this one..

One of the names they invoke most often is Wei-Hock Soon, known as Willie, a scientist at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics who claims that variations in the sun’s energy can largely explain recent global warming. He has often appeared on conservative news programs, testified before Congress and in state capitals, and starred at conferences of people who deny the risks of global warming.
But newly released documents show the extent to which Dr. Soon’s work has been tied to funding he received from corporate interests.
He has accepted more than $1.2 million in money from the fossil-fuel industry over the last decade while failing to disclose that conflict of interest in most of his scientific papers. At least 11 papers he has published since 2008 omitted such a disclosure, and in at least eight of those cases, he appears to have violated ethical guidelines of the journals that published his work.


[h=2]Document: Funding That Climate Researcher Failed to Disclose[/h]
The documents show that Dr. Soon, in correspondence with his corporate funders, described many of his scientific papers as “deliverables” that he completed in exchange for their money. He used the same term to describe testimony he prepared for Congress.
Though Dr. Soon did not respond to questions about the documents, he has long stated that his corporate funding has not influenced his scientific findings.
 
Real experts? Follow the MONEY Gene.... Find out who is PAYING them to say what they say... The Fossil fuel industry paid for this one..

One of the names they invoke most often is Wei-Hock Soon, known as Willie, a scientist at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics who claims that variations in the sun’s energy can largely explain recent global warming. He has often appeared on conservative news programs, testified before Congress and in state capitals, and starred at conferences of people who deny the risks of global warming.
But newly released documents show the extent to which Dr. Soon’s work has been tied to funding he received from corporate interests.
He has accepted more than $1.2 million in money from the fossil-fuel industry over the last decade while failing to disclose that conflict of interest in most of his scientific papers. At least 11 papers he has published since 2008 omitted such a disclosure, and in at least eight of those cases, he appears to have violated ethical guidelines of the journals that published his work.


Document: Funding That Climate Researcher Failed to Disclose

The documents show that Dr. Soon, in correspondence with his corporate funders, described many of his scientific papers as “deliverables” that he completed in exchange for their money. He used the same term to describe testimony he prepared for Congress.
Though Dr. Soon did not respond to questions about the documents, he has long stated that his corporate funding has not influenced his scientific findings.


Again, I agree with you. Follow the money. How much govt. money was squandered in Solyndra? Why do all climate change "fixes" involve raising my taxes or making my electricity rates higher. The climate change crowd is totally in the pocket of those who will directly benefit from scaring the public.

Thousands of govt. employees whose very jobs depend on the public being duped. Hundreds of companies selling solar panels and windmills.

Show me any expert claiming that humans are responsible for climate change and there will be money behind them. And it may well be for the deniers side also. Look up the Newsweek article from about 1973. We were all gonna die due to global cooling. Then came global warming, when that petered out, it changed to claimate change to cover all the bases. But none of em can prove nothing. You can't prove something that hasn't happened.

I just want the damned truth, and we are not being told the truth.

I have just seen too many things, with my own eyes, that prove to me that yes, the earth has constantly been in a state of change. But man is too puny to affect it.

I have a limestone bluff on my farm. over 150 foot high. Solid limestone. Sea fossils, 150' thick. I drilled a well in about 2006. We hit sea sand 300' down right behind my house. The creek on my creek farm has changed its channel many times in the years I have watched it. And my father and grandfather watched it for years before me.

I dont care to have people preach to me that something I am doing is ruining the planet. They talk, but I do things. When someone starts preaching climate change to me, I just ask them, "How many trees have you panted"

Also dont preach to me unless you have a clothes line in your back yard to dry your clothes with.

Gene
 
What is so funny.... is.. when backed into a corner... Republicans turn to the old useless battle cries... SOLYNDRA!!!!!!!! FAST AND FURIOUS!!!!!!! and the old stand by.... BENGHAZI!!!!!!!!!! It's so funny. and predictable.
 
Oh, and there was no mention of Fast and Furious, or Benghazi. Dont know how they apply to taxpayers money being wasted on half baked, lame brain, dishonest solar projects.

And for the record. I love solar energy. I have a solar panel at my hunting cabin, and all my tractors and farm trucks have solar panel battery tenders. They work great!! free energy and the battery is allway charged. Great idea. But the free market made that happen. someone built the solar chargers, I liked them, and made the decision to spend my money on them. The government didn't have to take my money, at the point of a gun, and give it to some political donor to fund a scam solar panel company.

If you want, I can help you with plans for the clothes line.

Gene
 
Everyone who isn't a "knuckle dragging, flat earth believer" believes the credible scientific reports that we are causing global warming.
 
Everyone who isn't a "knuckle dragging, flat earth believer" believes the credible scientific reports that we are causing global warming.

Another show of ignorance Jim. The earth has been warming since the last ice age. Long before factories and automobiles. When common sense fails, result to name calling, Jim. you are good at coming up with some catchy names.
 
Thanks, it just takes keen observation. Nothing personal. There is no one here who I call names but the authors of the references they use are my targets.
 
Yes Jim, I had to have wheels attached to my knuckle so they would not get hurt when I walk around.

Actually I prefer to listen to a real weather man than a bunch not so smart political heads. Has anyone yet explained why we are having such a nasty and severe winter this year?

We had no global warming until the current government took over 6 years ago. How come? Oh yes, I know, those earlier governments could not understand that when the earth temps stayed cool that meant the global warming would actually come later or later or later so don't deny it is really going to happen.
 
The problem with "climate change" is that is is occurring at a very gradual pace...with periods of cooling thrown into the mix. Making a decision based upon just a couple of years of weather patterns is bound to be inaccurate. This has to be thought of in terms of "centuries". Then, as some have suggested, many of the "experts" in this field seem to have ulterior motives. It will be 2100, and beyond, before many of today's predictions show their accuracy. However, given the many reports coming from places like Greenland, and the Arctic/Antarctic...showing melting ice...and even many of our landlocked glaciers melting...it is probably a pretty good bet that the oceans will continue to rise, and many of the coastal cities will be at increased flooding risks in the future.

Governments are failing miserably in trying to address this issue. If CO2 is a major contributor to the greenhouse gasses, replanting and protecting our forests would be a major step in the right direction...as trees are natures best way to cleanse this pollutant from our atmosphere. Instead, the Amazon rain forest is being decimated to provide room for sugar cane crops, to provide Ethanol for cars. The ONLY thing that governments have proposed is nonsense such as Cap and Trade...which will do little to reduce pollution...just move it around to the wealthier corporations, and add to the costs of everything the average person needs.

This argument about whether humans are/are not responsible for the changing weather just affords an easy excuse for us to do Nothing. None of us will be around to see the effects of the past 150 years of pumping muck into the atmosphere, but our great great grandkids, and beyond, will probably curse our actions.
 


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