Denmark to discontinue letter delivery.

MACKTEXAS said:
...a much larger percentage of Americans rely on receiving paper bills through the mail, which they pay by mailing checks.
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This is what I do. I learned this lesson the hard way some years back. I also like being able to just open a file folder and there it all is. Not dependent on the computer, the internet, power, etc. So much easier.

And, IMHO, safer.
 

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I always said that I don’t need to get mail 6 days a week. I think I could do with 3 days a week. By doing it this way, one postman could handle 2 routes. Route 1 would get mail Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Route 2 would get mail Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday.

Giving 1 postman 2 routes would mean that the Post Office would need only half the drivers and half the trucks. Think how much money that would save. The PO may even make money for a change. Of course, the union would raise cane, but who cares? Every year now, they are in the hole.

May need a few drivers to deliver special or express mail.
 
It would definitely have a negative effect on us. We send and receive quite a few personal and business letters every week. I, too, like having a hard copy paper trail for business matters. Nothing beats the intimacy of a hand written letter.

Good luck placing those e-cards in the mantelpiece during the holidays. :rolleyes:
 

Tommy said:
It would definitely have a negative effect on us. We send and receive quite a few personal and business letters every week. I, too, like having a hard copy paper trail for business matters. Nothing beats the intimacy of a hand written letter.

Good luck placing those e-cards in the mantelpiece during the holidays. :rolleyes:
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You couldn’t live with getting mail every other day? I can understand big businesses that receives hundreds of pieces of mail daily needs their mail everyday, but residential mail customers should be fine getting mail every other day. Or, at least I think they should.
 
GoodEnuff said:
This is what I do. I learned this lesson the hard way some years back. I also like being able to just open a file folder and there it all is. Not dependent on the computer, the internet, power, etc. So much easier.

And, IMHO, safer.
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And this: not if - but when I die - my family will come here to finalize my business and would have great difficulty finding bills I owe and pay if they are all online, buried in saved emails. They will need to inform the creditors and discontinue business with them.

Besides which, when I try to open the link to pay my WIFI bill, before I can even finish logging in, they send a 6 digit code to my hotmail a/c, but I cannot log in to my hotmail a/c to retrieve that code until hotmail texts a code to my phone, so it's back-and-forth. Can you imagine the complicataions of a family member navigating all that to cancel or pay a bill? [I cannot.]

And this is just a side note to the thread: People who send e-cards for my birthday or for Christmas may as well save themselves the time. I can find plenty of those on the internet all by myself.
 
OldFeller said:
I stopped using the USPS awhile ago after a mail fraud where somebody got into my electric bill and made the check out to themselves for a much larger amount.

If they ever stop USPS delivery it will mean a free laptop for everybody as the power companies need to get paid.
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A free laptop would be nice, but for those who aren't savvy enough to understand tech, it won't serve the intended purpose. If they're able to drive, I suppose they will have to go in person to the nearest branch.
 
MACKTEXAS said:
And this: not if - but when I die - my family will come here to finalize my business and would have great difficulty finding bills I owe and pay if they are all online, buried in saved emails. They will need to inform the creditors and discontinue business with them.

Besides which, when I try to open the link to pay my WIFI bill, before I can even finish logging in, they send a 6 digit code to my hotmail a/c, but I cannot log in to my hotmail a/c to retrieve that code until hotmail texts a code to my phone, so it's back-and-forth. Can you imagine the complicataions of a family member navigating all that to cancel or pay a bill? [I cannot.]

And this is just a side note to the thread: People who send e-cards for my birthday or for Christmas may as well save themselves the time. I can find plenty of those on the internet all by myself.
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Absolutely ^^^ this!

In a recent conversation with the executor of my estate, she asked me about this. I said, "Open the file drawer in the desk. Everything is there. Everything."
 
Been There said:
You couldn’t live with getting mail every other day? I can understand big businesses that receives hundreds of pieces of mail daily needs their mail everyday, but residential mail customers should be fine getting mail every other day. Or, at least I think they should.
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The OP asked if there would be much of an impact on my life if home delivery of mail was discontinued.
 
MACKTEXAS said:
And this: not if - but when I die - my family will come here to finalize my business and would have great difficulty finding bills I owe and pay if they are all online, buried in saved emails. They will need to inform the creditors and discontinue business with them.

Besides which, when I try to open the link to pay my WIFI bill, before I can even finish logging in, they send a 6 digit code to my hotmail a/c, but I cannot log in to my hotmail a/c to retrieve that code until hotmail texts a code to my phone, so it's back-and-forth. Can you imagine the complicataions of a family member navigating all that to cancel or pay a bill? [I cannot.]

And this is just a side note to the thread: People who send e-cards for my birthday or for Christmas may as well save themselves the time. I can find plenty of those on the internet all by myself.
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I buried my parents in Dec 1974. No wills. No computers. So what did I do? I went into my fathers office (home) and found the names of any and all debtors. I called them all and expained things and all was done in on afternoon. The credit cards were simple--I called the each and explained what happened and that was that. No bills, no hassle and no arguments.
 
Imogene said:
There are a lot of rural folks who are elderly and/or disabled to the where they cannot drive a vehicle. I don’t think that’s very humanitarian of you to make a comment like that.
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That's true. I was thinking about younger people who can easily pick it up.

Here they think it's normal to get your post delivered, but it's a luxury.

Just as easily you can bike 200 meter to pick it up at the neighbour's house who gets paid for it or a shop or a budbee box at the mall or grocery store. Maybe let the grocery store deliver it together with the groceries for elderly and/or disabled people.

I did it once, one day, helped someone deliver papers on a moped. My goodness what a horrible job and it pays nothing. It was in a super rich neighbourhood with gigantic houses, a load of work. Go pick it up somewhere or don't read the paper. It's better go to a flat. All the boxes neatly in one place.
 
MACKTEXAS said:
And this: not if - but when I die - my family will come here to finalize my business and would have great difficulty finding bills I owe and pay if they are all online, buried in saved emails. They will need to inform the creditors and discontinue business with them.

Besides which, when I try to open the link to pay my WIFI bill, before I can even finish logging in, they send a 6 digit code to my hotmail a/c, but I cannot log in to my hotmail a/c to retrieve that code until hotmail texts a code to my phone, so it's back-and-forth. Can you imagine the complicataions of a family member navigating all that to cancel or pay a bill? [I cannot.]

And this is just a side note to the thread: People who send e-cards for my birthday or for Christmas may as well save themselves the time. I can find plenty of those on the internet all by myself.
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When my dad stopped understanding it and almost gave 17.000 to a random number my brother took over. He did everything online, but bills went automatic.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
So what are people who do need to send and get mail going to do I wonder? :unsure: As soon as I read the title of your thread Aunt Bea, I thought the same thing as you about the USPS.
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While Denmark is ending traditional letter delivery by PostNord (with private firms like DAO stepping in), other Western countries aren't rushing to scrap their services entirely, but are making major cuts due to declining mail volumes. The UK's Royal Mail is reducing deliveries, Germany's Deutsche Post is cutting jobs, and Australia is ending daily deliveries, all shifting focus to profitable parcel logistics as the digital age reduces physical mail. It's more a trend of restructuring and reducing universal service rather than a full "scrapping" like Denmark's model, with concerns remaining for rural and elderly population.

Signs of Similar Trends in Other Countries:
United Kingdom, Royal Mail. Reducing second-class delivery to every other weekday and lowering first-class delivery targets, facing similar pressures to cuts.
Germany, Deutsche Post. Eliminating thousands of jobs and focusing heavily on the booming parcel sector as letter volumes plummet.
Australia, Australia Post. Proposed ending daily letter deliveries due to significant losses, mirroring the decline in physical mail.
Sweden, PostNord. Also facing tough times as part of the same Nordic postal operator as Denmark, though specific full scrapping plans aren't clear.
Why It's Happening:
Digitalization: Most official communication (bills, bank statements, government notices) has moved online.
Economic Viability: Declining letter volumes make traditional universal postal services unprofitable, pushing operators to focus on parcels.

My guess is that our Royal Mail will survive. The UK learned a very painful lesson back in 1963 when approximately 5,000 miles of railway track and over 2,300 stations were closed, amounting to around a third of the network. Now we have unimaginable road congestion, pollution and a significant cause of global warming, all because that exercise wasn't thought through.
When an occurrence happens that prevents electronic, digital communication, there is always Royal Mail to fall back on, providing that it's not been scrapped.
 
dusty said:
I buried my parents in Dec 1974. No wills. No computers. So what did I do? I went into my fathers office (home) and found the names of any and all debtors. I called them all and expained things and all was done in on afternoon. The credit cards were simple--I called the each and explained what happened and that was that. No bills, no hassle and no arguments.
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Yes, in 1974 - and even 20 years after that, those issues were much more easily resolved since there were hard copies and paper files.

Dr.Colosso said:
When my dad stopped understanding it and almost gave 17.000 to a random number my brother took over. He did everything online, but bills went automatic.
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There may be many elderly in that same situation. If writing checks wasn't enough for some, now they have added complications of tech and passwords.

If my wife was still living, she could take over if I had auto bill pay set up.. But I can't inform a cousin (200 miles away) of every password change, every change with expiration dates and CVV codes on credit cards, etc., so I don't use auto pay.. Other than my WIFI, I call a phone number for each bill I've received in the mail, and enter the payment information when prompted. [And when it asks if I want to save it, I always choose "no."]

This is a small town; news travels fast - so it is likely that my bank accounts would be frozen within hours of my death. But, my cousin has P.O.D., and could drain the accounts upon presentation of a death certificate, then use the funds to pay off any outstanding account balances. I should hope he would first contact the attorney downtown who drew up my will for advice before taking any action.
 
I honestly do not care a bit about what happens to my possessions when I go. I have listed art, some rely good antiques and a whole lotta vauable knitting yarn! I have bank accounts with healthy balances. No will, no body plans.

I don't care where any of it goes. It's not really mine; none of it. I enjoyed it while I was on earth but when my soul leaves my body an entire new adenture begins.
 
horseless carriage said:
While Denmark is ending traditional letter delivery by PostNord (with private firms like DAO stepping in), other Western countries aren't rushing to scrap their services entirely, but are making major cuts due to declining mail volumes. The UK's Royal Mail is reducing deliveries, Germany's Deutsche Post is cutting jobs, and Australia is ending daily deliveries, all shifting focus to profitable parcel logistics as the digital age reduces physical mail. It's more a trend of restructuring and reducing universal service rather than a full "scrapping" like Denmark's model, with concerns remaining for rural and elderly population.

Signs of Similar Trends in Other Countries:
United Kingdom, Royal Mail. Reducing second-class delivery to every other weekday and lowering first-class delivery targets, facing similar pressures to cuts.
Germany, Deutsche Post. Eliminating thousands of jobs and focusing heavily on the booming parcel sector as letter volumes plummet.
Australia, Australia Post. Proposed ending daily letter deliveries due to significant losses, mirroring the decline in physical mail.
Sweden, PostNord. Also facing tough times as part of the same Nordic postal operator as Denmark, though specific full scrapping plans aren't clear.
Why It's Happening:
Digitalization: Most official communication (bills, bank statements, government notices) has moved online.
Economic Viability: Declining letter volumes make traditional universal postal services unprofitable, pushing operators to focus on parcels.

My guess is that our Royal Mail will survive. The UK learned a very painful lesson back in 1963 when approximately 5,000 miles of railway track and over 2,300 stations were closed, amounting to around a third of the network. Now we have unimaginable road congestion, pollution and a significant cause of global warming, all because that exercise wasn't thought through.
When an occurrence happens that prevents electronic, digital communication, there is always Royal Mail to fall back on, providing that it's not been scrapped.
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Thank you for answering my question HC. Our postal service has been struggling for years now. They keep raising the price of stamps, which doesn't concern me because I only mail one or two cards a year and I bought a supply of Forever stamps years ago. There was talk of limiting mail delivery to 5 days a week. I don't think that's happened yet.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
Thank you for answering my question HC. Our postal service has been struggling for years now. They keep raising the price of stamps, which doesn't concern me because I only mail one or two cards a year and I bought a supply of Forever stamps years ago. There was talk of limiting mail delivery to 5 days a week. I don't think that's happened yet.
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US President Donald Trump signed an executive order last month ending the global import tax exemption on low-value parcels. I'm not sure what the exact definition of mail is, as in envelopes or small packages etcetera, but that executive order has caused concern. This BBC Report makes for interesting reading. Any thoughts?
 

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