who said it was all predetermined in this discussion?/If we can foresee our choices made and don’t like the outcome, since life ( the current moment ) is FLUX, we have the ability to change our mind , since we have ‘free will.’
Fate is what we see, destiny is what we do with our fate. Always choose LVE, not fear!
If all life was predetermined then what would be the point of even trying?
Do you believe in prophets/prophesy?
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can you give an example of this so it will become clearer what you mean??If we can foresee our choices made and don’t like the outcome, since life ( the current moment ) is FLUX, we have the ability to change our mind , since we have ‘free will.’
Fate is what we see, destiny is what we do with our fate. Always choose L
If all life was predetermined then what would be the point of even trying?
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I have a clear memory of dreaming the JFK assassination before it happened. Though I am sure I didn't.
The mind is a funny thing, it is tempting to believe I had that dream, before the assassination, but I doubt it. Easy to imagine prophecies are real, I can see how some folks believe in them.
The mind is a funny thing, it is tempting to believe I had that dream, before the assassination, but I doubt it. Easy to imagine prophecies are real, I can see how some folks believe in them.
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The. mind is amazing.
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Not really.
JustDave
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Dreams, like thoughts, are often stored in our memory, but not necessarily in the order that we think. I'm not saying that's what happened here, but it's something to wonder about.
A couple months ago I was trying to recall some long ago event, and I couldn't put the parts of the event together for some reason, and then I realized this wasn't even an event. It was a dream I was remembering. It wasn't the last nights dream, I was quite sure, but I had no idea how long ago I had that dream. I think it was in the distant past, but I don't know.
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Quote: The choice has already been made alright… unquote
This basically means predetermined.
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I don’t think it’s that unusual at all. Many people are psychic who may not actually know it. Our dogs use their 6th sense or intuition as do many others including humans. I’ve had some precognitive dreams and many lucid dreams
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Not when they are excited about the destruction of society. I check in on them now and then. Some, like Billy Crone, are clinically nutz.
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I will try and explain this :If we can foresee our choices made and don’t like the outcome, since life ( the current moment ) is FLUX, we have the ability to change our mind , since we have ‘free will.’
Fate is what we see, destiny is what we do with our fate. Always choose L
If all life was predetermined then what would be the point of even trying?
In this reality the only time that we can do anything is in the ‘present moment’ . The future hasn’t happened yet and the past is like the wake of a boat. It’s the trail of water left behind.
We can’t make any decisions in the future and can’t do anything about our past so the only time that we can do anything about is the present one which I believe is why they coined it ‘the present.’ meaning (Gift)
Therefore the present moment is more fluid than the past or the future and the only moment that really counts.
note: I’m not sure if that really helps but I tried.
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Try real hard to not take what I wrote out of context
Try to wrap your mind around omniscience
One who sees what you're going to choose before you make that choice
Let no one deceive himself. If any of you thinks he is wise in this age, he should become a fool, so that he may become wise.
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: “He catches the wise in their craftiness.”
And again, “The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile.”
1 Corinthians 3: 18-20
OK, I'm done here
Misquote away
nah sounds like ya makin it all up!
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It'll either rain or go dark before morning.
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See! That’s exactly what I expected from you.
Conplete and utter nonsense.
JustDave
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Quoting the Bible to explain the Bible to someone who doesn't believe the Bible is not the best way to defend the Bible or your Bible beliefs, although I do recognize your extraordinary familiarity with Bible verses if that is your goal.
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I believe in the prophesies of the Bible. Over 300 prophesies about Jesus Christ were fulfilled. https://www.christianity.com/wiki/jesus-christ/what-are-the-prophecies-about-jesus.html
anything goes here don't worry ! - quotin - life experiences - dreams - misquotin and strange rhymes and reasons?? - As Gary O once stated it's "livin the dream" - now just imagine - you have been born on a planet that has gravitational pulls and itself just floats in outerspace slowly rotating and needs strong sunlight to function in floats in a Milky Way - once it only had dinosaurs and nuffin else and none of us really know where we humans started from or why we have so many peculiarly different animals - which some are edible and others poisonous? Then there are the mermaids - nah don't get me onto the mermaids cos I go weak at the knees!!
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You know Gary. I was very polite and respectful to you and everyone else on this thread. Why this disrespectful attitude now?
If it’s predetermined by me, god or Santa clause , it’s predetermined.
I didn’t ask a question to prove any point. I asked a question because I truly didn’t understand what you were saying but go ahead and shoot me down.
From my understanding the Bible condemns any use of premonition, clairvoyance etc….
https://www.gty.org/library/questio...a-position-on-clairvoyance-and-parapsychology
It’s considered devils work
https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-clairvoyance.html
What does the Bible says about psychics.
If we mere mortals can predetermine our lives that makes us psychic
https://www.openbible.info/topics/psychic
It’s got a chit load of Bible verses
Any intuition is viewed as demonic so if any human uses intuition they are instantly an evil sinner
https://www.bibleinfo.com/en/questions/what-does-god-say-about-channeling-and-mediums
There’s hundreds of links I can paste claiming the same thing which is why it’s confusing to me and if it’s confusing to me then it’s got to be confusing to others also but if I’m going to get treated disrespectfully for no apparent reason. I’m done also.
yes but did he really really really exist ?? - the news on that score is scant? - try Zealot the life and times of Jesus of Nazareth by rexa aslan - once a christian man then reverted to Islam - the proof may not be irrefutable??
I find all these discussions very refreshing and exercising to the mind - HOWever lets be aware as I am sure we are that when a discussion becomes "bible believers and practitioners - v- none bible believers and non practioners " then due care is required - due respect for each others views and beliefs - it is possible but takes viligance and compassion for each other?? NO??
JustDave
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Yeah, mermaids will do that to ya.
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"do you believe in prophets/prophesy"
Personally, I wouldn’t scoff at the idea.
Wisdom can be found in the most unlikely places.
I do not entertain charlatans ... however... some people do have precognitive abilities.
Personally, I wouldn’t scoff at the idea.
Wisdom can be found in the most unlikely places.
I do not entertain charlatans ... however... some people do have precognitive abilities.