Do you have a Real ID yet?

Here in Alabama, it's a Star ID ... Star upper left corner of drivers license.
Got mine last month.

EDIT: But I think my retired military ID issued by the Department of Defense (DOD)
would have worked where a Real ID is required.
 

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Although the question greatly impacts controversial voting issues, given SF board policy, please refrain from bringing up that politicalized facet of the discussion. This article today is a good short summary of the current implementation status.

https://www.npr.org/2025/05/06/nx-s...id-deadline-is-here-heres-why-it-took-so-long

Those using airline travel and seniors without established SS benefits are most likely to be initially impacted. Next may increasingly be used for other federal program purposes. An estimated 9% of legal Americans do not have legal documents. Will not having documents affect you?

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/11/nx-s1-4991903/voter-registration-proof-of-citizenship-requirement

U.S. citizens of color are more likely than white citizens, who do not identify as Latino, to say they lack citizenship documents (3% of people of color compared to 1% of white people) or can’t readily access them (11% of people of color vs. 8% of white people). Independents are more likely to report that they don’t have documents (4%) compared to Democrats (2%) and Republicans (1%). They are also more likely to report not having ready document access (13%) than Democrats (10%) and Republicans (7%)...

And for more than 3.8 million adult citizens, or about 2% of eligible voters, there’s no document to find at all, according to the survey’s estimates. That includes birth certificates. “Older Americans and Black Americans, particularly in the South, are more likely to have been born outside of a hospital setting, meaning they didn't receive a birth certificate automatically,” Kunis points out...


In the US, powerful groups have over decades blocked implementations for national IDs. This link against IDs provides brief history and summarizes the situation well.

https://www.endtime.com/articles-endtime-magazine/why-america-has-always-refused-national-id/

This person has plenty of ID documents including my birth certificate and birth registration from the county of Los Angeles where born. Even though my parents were careful keeping such documentation, 2 of my 6 siblings have been so disorganized as adults that they lost such decades ago and have also never paid IRC or state taxes though have always barely made a living. I was also thoroughly investigated by the FBI after entering the USAF during the Viet Nam War because I worked in a classified electronics field.

Personally, I am one of many that believe in this technology and communication era implementation is inevitable, necessary, ought be mandatory, and could be implemented given oversight without abusing civil rights. Something that cannot be said about the past both in the US and other nations. Lack of IDs causes many problems while allowing those disregarding and breaking laws to spread rot in societies.
probably the same in most of countries around the world from lesser to greater degrees?? - do you consider usa any better or worse than other major nations??
 
I have a Blue Passport (current) and my older Maroon Passport (expired) I used while serving.
Maroon one has the most stamps and I keep it to remind me of the weird places I've been,
and keep the time frame straight.

As for getting a Real ID, I opted out because I have a retired military ID and VA Service-Connected ID,
along with the Passport.

Wife can use her Passport or her military ID also.
 

It is not just for flying though....

What else is it for? Do you have a link? I know some folks on this forum don’t like links, but I do when it comes to backup🤠🤠

The way it is always advertised on Nashville TV stations and the way the nice lady at the DMV explained it, I don’t need real ID. If I’m not going to fly.
 
I got mine last year at the DMV, it cost a couple of bucks more, but still less that what it cost me to drive to the place. I'm curious to know what the political controversy is. It's less hassle than getting a passport, and the DMV would have issued the cheaper version of my driver's license if I wanted.
 
What else is it for? Do you have a link? I know some folks on this forum don’t like links, but I do when it comes to backup🤠🤠

The way it is always advertised on Nashville TV stations and the way the nice lady at the DMV explained it, I don’t need real ID. If I’m not going to fly.
About REAL ID | Homeland Security

And yes, you don't need it if you have other forms of accepted ID. I would rather have a real ID drivers license than carry around a passport.
 
Had a perfectly good drivers license and went for the Real ID / Star ID one
They charged me for a replacement DL, which was $31.25
They punched a hole in my perfectly good one I'd brought with me, to void it.
And ... AND ... the original expiration date didn't change.
So October of next year I'll have to renew my DL and it will be another $31 or $38 or something.
DL are good for 4yrs here in Alabama.
 
NPR did an in depth piece yesterday on reasons for Real ID. 20 years ago Congress passed the law that would require them, mostly for travel security. Passports were already necessary for travel to some countries, but the Government didn't take the law seriously until yesterday. Well, "seriously" being a sliding scale. If you showed up at an airport without one yesterday, Homeland Security or whatever outfit it is, would give those not compliant a "good talking to" and let them board the plane.

The NPR person asked, "At what time in the future, would you not be allowed to board the plane?" No one had a definitive answer for that. At this time the whole ID thing seems to be a non issue, except for crossing borders.
 
At this time the whole ID thing seems to be a non issue, except for crossing borders.
A piece of that might be the changing nature of terrorism.

Today you're more likely to see "cyber" attacks, mass infiltration by criminals, and manipulation of the media.
 
Had a perfectly good drivers license and went for the Real ID / Star ID one
They charged me for a replacement DL, which was $31.25
They punched a hole in my perfectly good one I'd brought with me, to void it.
And ... AND ... the original expiration date didn't change.
So October of next year I'll have to renew my DL and it will be another $31 or $38 or something.
DL are good for 4yrs here in Alabama.
I didn't go for the purpose of getting a Real ID. I just waited for my license to expire, then got a new one 2 yrs ago, which is a "Real ID" since it's marked as such by the State of Texas with a gold star in the upper right corner. 4 years for a DL in Alabama isn't very long. In Texas, a driver's license is valid for up to 8 yrs for those between the ages of 18 and 84 years old, and for those 85 and older, it's valid for two years.
 
Mandatory national identity cards have always been anathema to Americans. During my lifetime it's been considered to be a mark of totalitarian government.
 
Mandatory national identity cards have always been anathema to Americans. During my lifetime it's been considered to be a mark of totalitarian government.
Nonsense. Being able to PROOVE that you are a citizen of your country , is important. Canada issues Citizenship Cards to our citizens, either born in Canada or naturalized by law. Does that make Canada a "Totalitarian Government " ? Of course it doesn't.

link. Google Search

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I got an enhanced license several years ago. My understanding this will still work to Allow entry into Canada and Mexico with no passport. As I have little to no intention of traveling out of the country any more, this will work. I live a couple hours from Canada border. And I no longer will be flying anywhere
 
I got an enhanced license several years ago. My understanding this will still work to Allow entry into Canada and Mexico with no passport. As I have little to no intention of traveling out of the country any more, this will work. I live a couple hours from Canada border. And I no longer will be flying anywhere
Marie, unfortunately Real ID does not work for border crossings into Canada or Mexico.
REAL ID FAQs | Homeland Security
 
... I'm curious to know what the political controversy is. I...

Not to be discussed herein as I asked, but just to leave a terse answer, it is about all the related decades controversial political voting rights issues where some parties, ideologies, and groups prefer to be able to vote regardless without providing evidence with any kind of ID that they are actually legal US citizens. In other words, believe anyone living someplace ought have rights regardless of their status. IDs are thus seen as a mechanism that would prevent doing so out come their monkeywrenches.
 
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Marie, unfortunately Real ID does not work for border crossings into Canada or Mexico.
REAL ID FAQs | Homeland Security
I can use my enhanced license
From that site:

State-issued Enhanced Driver's Licenses and identification cards (EDL/EID) are designated as acceptable border-crossing documents by DHS under the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative and are an acceptable alternative to a REAL ID for boarding a commercial aircraft, accessing federal facilities, and entering nuclear power plants. Currently there are only 5 states that issue EDL/EIDs, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Vermont, and Washington. EDL/EIDs can be identified by having an image of the U.S. flag and the word Enhanced at the top of the card.
 
Marie, unfortunately Real ID does not work for border crossings into Canada or Mexico.
REAL ID FAQs | Homeland Security
That's a surprise. That makes them quite a bit more worthless than I thought. There's more than just Canada or Mexico. There's a bunch of stuff they aren't good for. I guess I'll have to renew my expired passport. Now that one IS a pain in the ass to renew. Maybe not. I'm pretty much done with travel outside the US, but I wouldn't mind going back to British Columbia's coast. I could live out the rest of my life there, someplace half way between Vancouver BC and Prince Rupert. Preferably with wolves and loons.

Here's a spot I anchored my boat way off the Inland Passage. It was like getting off the freeway. And yes, there were wolves.36AK3TuwartzBay.jpg
 
I don't have the energy to visit my DMV. Maybe I will invest in a passport. Also, unless an emergency, I'm not flying anywhere. I wish but I no longer can. Would need a companion to help me. Unfortunately, as I would love to visit BFF in S. FL.
The travel correspondent on GMA said it's actually easier and takes less time to get a passport. Then George Stephanopoulis commented that there are no Real ID appointments available in N.Y or N.J. at this time. They filmed long lines waiting to get into a DMV (don't know where). The report also said that people can still fly without Real ID but they will go through an additional screening process.

I didn't bother to get a real ID because I have a passport and passport card. I have personally boycotted the airlines for a couple of decades now. Like you, I won't fly unless there's a dire emergency involving my closets family member(s), all of whom currently live here in Jersey. In fact since visual issues have caused me to be unable to ever drive again, I don't intend to renew my license next time, which I think is in 2029, the same year I'll have to renew my passport.
 
I can use my enhanced license
From that site:

State-issued Enhanced Driver's Licenses and identification cards (EDL/EID) are designated as acceptable border-crossing documents by DHS under the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative and are an acceptable alternative to a REAL ID for boarding a commercial aircraft, accessing federal facilities, and entering nuclear power plants. Currently there are only 5 states that issue EDL/EIDs, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Vermont, and Washington. EDL/EIDs can be identified by having an image of the U.S. flag and the word Enhanced at the top of the card.
Marie will you be so kind and post the link. It may be of interest to some in those states. Thank you.

I found it. Who wants to be connected like this?

These licenses can confirm U.S. citizenship and make it easier for citizens to enter the United States from certain countries. EDLs contain radio frequency identification (RFID) chips that are connected to a database maintained by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
 
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Nonsense. Being able to PROOVE that you are a citizen of your country , is important. Canada issues Citizenship Cards to our citizens, either born in Canada or naturalized by law. Does that make Canada a "Totalitarian Government " ? Of course it doesn't.
Actually, from what I can find Canada did away with mandatory citizenship cards in 2012. That said, I grew up on the US/CAN border and had never heard of them. Go figure. :rolleyes:

For the record, I agree that being able to prove citizenship is important with respect to voting.
 


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