Do You Know Anyone Breaking The Covid Rules?

hollydolly said:
...but if that's not against the rules, then you're not doing anything wrong. We had the lockdown lifted on the 2nd of Dcember for 2 weeks .. so pubs and restaurants were able to open again after having been closed all of November . and for 3 months previous to that...

We were all permitted to use the hospitality industry as long as we as customers and they as providers followed the rules.

Masks worn by customers at all times unless actually eating or drinking... tables set at least 6 feet apart, no more than 6 people at a table... track & trace on every customer .. all waiting staff and bar staff to wear masks.. any customer leaving a table for any reason at all had to mask up. menus all disposable and to be thrown away after each use.. ...

..so we went to the pub and had lunch and followed all the rules. ..mostly we sat outside well away from anyone else..(except for a few days ago for Christmas lunch where we ate indoors due to it being so cold, but still far from anyone else......it didn't stop the govt closing us down again after just 2 weeks.

You can see in the picture how far we were seated from the next occupied table, about 12 feet....


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...and at the other end of the pub behind us....

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Whew!!😅. Yes, sometimes I really question there sutting places down completely. If the business owners are compliant with the rules they have to follow, and the customers are compliant...I don’t see the problem. Especially in smaller areas where the numbers are low to nil inthe first place. Too many small businesses have gone under because of this and yet the big box stores etc continue to thrive and most are having record years. Sad
 

I have a former neighbor (he and wife are in Florida now) who has always been anti mask, anti testing, and it is all not as dangerous as the liberals are saying.
I know keeping the 6 foot rule can be tough while in public, but I think many people do try, at least. I do see people not wearing masks properly, or not at all. Where I am, in Western NY state, we are having some very high numbers, so there has to be caution out there.
 
You mean besides the Hypocritical politicians? LOL!

I guess I break the rules. I see my daughter and grandkids, I see a few select friends with no masks. About the only place we go is the grocery store.
 
I actually had a nurse who was in a small exam room with me, and giving me instructions, etc...

while she was wearing her mask below her nose.... o_O

If I recall correctly (I was shocked and already upset at the time, but I do think I remember correctly)
she had it on her chin, below her mouth, too.

Then, she was angry when I extremely gently asked her to change it. :rolleyes:
 
Btw, even though that was in the hospital, as well, which further surprised me about her lack of wanting to wear one at work, and while with patients,

the nurses there, are asked questions daily, but NOT tested,
I was told when I specifically had asked about their precautions, on the phone before I went to my hospital procedure that day.

I'd had to have to have the covid test 2 or 3 days before my appointment, (no exceptions)
but no, they replied, the doctors and nurses did not. :oops:
 
Kaila said:
Btw, even though that was in the hospital, as well, which further surprised me about her lack of wanting to wear one at work, and while with patients,

the nurses there, are asked questions daily, but NOT tested,
I was told when I specifically had asked about their precautions, on the phone before I went to my hospital procedure that day.

I'd had to have to have the covid test 2 or 3 days before my appointment, (no exceptions)
but no, they replied, the doctors and nurses did not. :oops:
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yes same here, I had to have the covid test 4 days before my appointment last time... ..however I have a CT scan due at the hospital early January , and no-one has mentioned anything about coming in several days before for the test this time
 
Sometimes my son comes in without his mask on. I reminded him the other day that our co-op requires that masks be worn on the premises or else face fines. So when hep popped in ..in the middle of the night on his way to work to bring me some food my DIL had prepared, he had his mask on. Also I have a neighbor who I've had to ask several times..."why isn't your mask covering your nose?" And he's on the board of directors. His wife gets on him too. Now most of the time when I see him, his nose is covered.

My sister continues to have her dinners. I haven't been to her house for dinner since COVID hit and she's not happy about that. I believe everyone is probably careful but still, she usually has lots of folks over.
 
My daughter tells me she wears a mask, but I've seen her post lots of pictures on Facebook in a group of friends where some of the girls aren't wearing masks, including her. She associates with mostly young people and I don't think they take it very seriously, plus in my state they only imposed any restrictions when the hospitals are almost full, and as soon as a few beds free up, the restrictions are removed. Our state is number 4 in the USA for number of covid cases per million people.
Also, previously my daughter was completely in agreement with not being in contact with me, but then suddenly this morning she was upset that I won't come into her house to get a present she bought me.
When I got my pickup order at the grocery store this week, the restaurant next door was completely packed, it was crazy. It is like people are taking Covid even less seriously than before.
I have a coworker in another state who went to a restaurant with his wife and they were seated at tables ten feet apart from other people, and both he and his wife got Covid.
I'm taking all the precautions possible now, during the summer I felt okay having people (dry wall repair guy, etc) come into the house if they wore masks and I would stay in another room, and run an air sanitizer machine after they left. But now, I'm not letting anyone come in.
 
Lee said:
Unfortunately I know several, one being the biggest loudmouth when it comes to enlightening others. Yet she is having a nephew for the holidays because she does not want him to be alone.

Another is the lady down the street with her squeeze of the month cozily shacked up till she gives him the heave ho.

And saving the best for last is my cousin who declares this is all just the bigwig world leaders who got together and faked this pandemic and it's really just the flu. Speechless, I asked her what would be the purpose of that....her reply was that it was to bring those with wealthy portfolios down. And then she hinted for an invite for turkey dinner....not gonna happen.

So who do you know?
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A certain percentage of the population is always going to be selfish and act without regard to the rest of us. While they make everything worse for most, they benefit by the sacrifices of the rest. They are freeloading. They are no different from the people that violated rationing during WW II or refuse vaccinations.
 
Yes, many break the rules here. My next door neighbor--the apt. next to me--has people over all the time and when I've seen them they don't wear masks. It really bothers me that she has to have people over all the time. I've been hoping she'll move but don't know yet if she will.

Then at the stores their masks are down by their chins or the nose sticking out.

I feel real bad for my friend whose niece (that has tested positive) lives in the same home with him while he has 5 underlying health conditions including Coronary Heart Failure and COPD. She has no symptoms as of today and she is in her 30s. I guess she has nowhere else to go. He said he is staying in his room all the time. She has to quarantine for 10 days--she works in a nursing home and they test the employees there regularly. I hope all in the household stay safe and they all don't get very ill.
 
Yosh said:
A certain percentage of the population is always going to be selfish and act without regard to the rest of us. While they make everything worse for most, they benefit by the sacrifices of the rest. They are freeloading. They are no different from the people that violated rationing during WW II or refuse vaccinations.
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In WWII young offenders were offered the choice to join our armed forces, and one group choosing this avenue rather than staying in jail, were put under the charge of Brian who attended the church I used twenty years ago. He said just how much good he found in those who society had judged quite bad people you'd have to say, certainly selfish, certainly unwilling to follow all the rules.
Are you unable to appreciate, just as some Western countries refusing to use lockdowns, that there are no correct answers here, only a range of possible answers? Whilst I know very well some ignore rules selfishly, as many are mentally ill, and this virus is ready to make fools of those who think they're the wisest and most comp!isn't amongst us, one way or another.
 
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As far as I've seen, people around here are being pretty compliant. Probably because the powers that abe enforce fines for violating the rules, and pretty stiff fines for stores who let people in who are violating the rules. I sure am, because I want to do all I can to lower my odds of getting the virus. I am guilty, though, of letting the mask dangle from one ear -- but only when I am in my car alone.

My sister and I have formed sort of our own pod, even though we do not live together. She is disabled and depends on me for rides to doctors, to pick up her groceries for her, etc. We both always wear our masks, even in the car. When I pick up her groceries for her, I bring them back and hand them to her through her window because it is much easier for her and she doesn't have to try to make her way all the way up to the main entrance of her building to let me in. She lives on the first floor, so I just hand her groceries through. Neither of us goes into any stores or anything like that. I really miss shopping.
 
Define breaking the rules.....i have finally formed a ‘bubble’ with my friend,who also lives alone, twenty five miles away.
We are both utterly fed up with never seeing anyone and as far as we can tell there is nothing saying your ‘bubble’ has to live close by.
Anyway I’m off to see him next week...by train and bus.Barry Docks station here I come.
We shall plot possible Summer cricket trips if we are allowed into the games.Hove and Canterbury perhaps.
 
Sunny said:
The problem with most people is that no one is really clear as to what the "rules" are. Lots of the advice we get is so vague and nondescriptive that they might as well be saying nothing at all. Examples:

1. "Wear a mask." OK, that's clear in some circumstances. When indoors with other people, of course. That part is easy. When in a medical facility, the barber or hairdresser, sure. Kids in those schools that are still open, definitely. But...

What about when you are going for a walk outside, with no one else around? The mask is below your nose? So what? I wear a mask when going out, I'm required to while in the public areas of my building, such as the elevators or lobby. But what about when I get outside, all by myself, with no other people around? Why not put the mask down below my nose (or chin) in that case?

What if you are walking alone outside, but other people do appear? How close do they have to get before you are supposed to put the mask back up?

What about when meeting with a very small group, say up to 4 people total, for an indoor visit? And you are served food? It is possible, I suppose, to eat while leaving the mask on, but would you want to?

2. Stay home as much as possible. OK, but awfully general.

Win, what is your source for suggesting that anyone has said that leaving your house for any reason is breaking the rules? I have never seen or heard of such a rule. If it was, the rules about mask wearing would be meaningless. Stores could not legally be open, not even grocery stores.

What we need is more clarification about what my English teacher used to call "glittering generalities." Starting with: What is a "rule?" To me, a lot of them sound more like suggestions than actual rules. But having a wedding for 500 guests is clearly violating something. (And BTW, do those same numbers about crowd size apply to outdoor activities as well? Well, at least it's winter now, in this part of the world.) And the mask rules in stores are really rules, I suppose. Has anyone actually been forced by security to leave because they refuse to put a mask on? I don't know.

And so it goes. There is so much confusion, so many varying definitions about all of it, that no one is really clear about what to do, at least not in this country. Maybe the rules are made clearer elsewhere.
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Here we do not have to wear a mask when we are simply outdoors.Only when entering premises or on public transport.
i find that after an hour the mask is damp and uncomfortable so when between premises i pull it below my chin.
And in some areas up to 4000 people can attend a sporting event(not in Wales sadly).
We certainly aren’t breaking the rules by just leaving the house although it is discouraged!
And before the latest lockdown I was eating out following all the rules.Inexplicable that cafes,with every measure under the sun in place,may be closed until Summer.
And I’m going to my sisters for Christmas lunch tomorrow,Which is allowed.
 
chic said:
I wonder about this also and why we keep locking down when all of the above does not work? There's got to be another solution.
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But it does work. Not 100%, but when it’s not done the rates were increasing even more rapidly. We mostly have compliance in BC and because of this the spread has decreased. Those who have refused to wear the masks and isolate are spreaders. Young people working at a ski hill were the cause of significant spread because of their partying.
 
Lee said:
Unfortunately I know several, one being the biggest loudmouth when it comes to enlightening others. Yet she is having a nephew for the holidays because she does not want him to be alone.

Another is the lady down the street with her squeeze of the month cozily shacked up till she gives him the heave ho.

And saving the best for last is my cousin who declares this is all just the bigwig world leaders who got together and faked this pandemic and it's really just the flu. Speechless, I asked her what would be the purpose of that....her reply was that it was to bring those with wealthy portfolios down. And then she hinted for an invite for turkey dinner....not gonna happen.

So who do you know?
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pretty much everyone i know and a whole lot of strangers.
 
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