Do you think we will always have poor people?

There will always be poor people until the Lord comes back.
But being poor in this age and in this country is far from what it use to be or what we think.
There are so many programs, so much assistence. No one needs to spend a night without shelter. But those in need either don't understand or choose to go their own way Those who don't understand need to be found. Those who choose otherwise need to be respected but made aware of the help that is available.
I don't know that characterizing people as lazy makes any sense. Regardless of anything the need to survive will outweigh their laziness. Lay here and die because I don't want to work or find a job to find shelter and food to survive. Add drugs into the picture and it becomes a whole different story.
Abandoned animals I get. They don't know, they don't understand
People are more complicated.
 

Paco Dennis said:
As a relatively poor person, I have my work cut out to balance my budget each month. This is probably true for the majority of people, so nothing all that special. But, recently there was that murder of the insurance CEO, that brought the issue of the poor being mistreated by the rich and powerful. This happened to me last week.

I ordered some Gummies online and when I took one I had a terrible reaction. My blood pressure dropped real low and I had cold sweats. This reaction should not have occurred, except that these gummies have melatonin in them, and I am allergic to melatonin. I took them back showing the manager the proof that they never mentioned the melatonin in their ad. He refused to take them back or give me store credit. Saying that was the states policy. $82 down the drain. Well, I can't afford that. So,

I took the matter into my own hands. I emailed the company that makes the gummies and explained what happened. Today he emailed me and apologized and said he called the dispensary, and had the store give me full credit for the transaction, and wished me a happy new year. Wouldn't it be nice if all of our "poorness" was handled in such a manner? :)
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911 said:
I understand why we have indigents in the U.S., but why do we have so many people and children going hungry? Around my area, we have more food banks than I could count using all my toes and fingers. We donate to the County’s food bank twice per year, which the recipient has to show their Medicaid card to be eligible.

We also have many churches that have their own food bank. Of course, there are cheaters that make their rounds to the various food banks and try to sell the food for pennies on the dollar.
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I don't think we DO have many kids or adults "going hungry".
It has been a long, long time since I have seen a hungry looking child!
Just the opposite: fat kids and fat adults everywhere.

My husband has relatives on Food Stamps: the kids are ENORMOUS and the culture of hold out your hand for the next free meal is rampant!
 
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"Poverty" meaning living without proper protective shelter, enough food, drinking water, heat, air-conditioning, furniture? Are you poor if all those needs are met? And then there is 'poverty' of dreams unfilled.
Getting back to will there always be poor people? Yeah, I think so. All you have to do to help you decide one way or the other
is to study human nature's inclination to do what's best for oneself first. .........nevermind blaming government leaders alone for it.
 
30 Years ago A few were screaming, "we got to do this, this way."
They are 100's of Billionaire's today. Financials partners made it happen.
A select few, smart enough to scream at the right people, & get it that way.
Well, they got lots of Warehouses everywhere / every major hub & waiting for the next
18-wheeler full of crap to show up. Who have been paid off to pass those laws?
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Leasing everything / cost of doing business & how many years avoiding taxes?
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Now the scream is, "we got to declare bankruptcy," so to keep it all going.
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jimintoronto said:
Could it be so simple as to PAY women not to have children that they CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE ? Make it a cash incentive, get a stipulated amount, for each year they don't produce a child ? In the long run that would definitely be cheaper than the current systems of children being seized by the Child and Family Services agencies and operating juvenile detention centers for teen agers. JIM.
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Hense, secret abortions.
 
Elsie said:
Hense, secret abortions.
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Gays adopt those tiny baby children by the 1000's. Many of social working are gay.
A great part of private education, gay. Gay, the main word today, differentiating & not meaningless.
Young potential families destroyed by drugs and the way life is today. Self-Families destruction.
 
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If there is a God who once sent a part of himself down on earth called "Jesus" to explain and show us another way - and despite some earlier successes it may have pettered out or gone dormant - then we still have poverty in all our societies and haven't managed to fix any of them really? perhaps it will just go on forever?
 
I don't believe it's a sin to be afflicted with homosexuality, but homosexual sexual acts definitely are! An orphan child needs to have an adoptive biological father and a biological woman mother. Likely most loving homosexual parents will raise their adopted child with love, however no matter how 'okay' it is publicly and personally accepted, as the child grows into adulthood, they may come to learn that their "parents" are living a life of sin denied.
 
smiley said:
If there is a God who once sent a part of himself down on earth called "Jesus" to explain and show us another way - and despite some earlier successes it may have pettered out or gone dormant - then we still have poverty in all our societies and haven't managed to fix any of them really? perhaps it will just go on forever?
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We were shown another way to live our lives, (JESUS showed us the way best for us). But it got too tough for many cuz it meant giving up doing things He said not to do (For OUR benefit!) that we wanted to do. So phooey on giving them up, so here we are, paying the consequences we brought upon ourselves.
 
Elsie said:
I don't believe it's a sin to be afflicted with homosexuality, but homosexual sexual acts definitely are! An orphan child needs to have an adoptive biological father and a biological woman mother. Likely most loving homosexual parents will raise their adopted child with love, however no matter how 'okay' it is publicly and personally accepted, as the child grows into adulthood, they may come to learn that their "parents" are living a life of sin denied.
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does "afflicted" mean it is acquired as a trait one is born with or is it acquired after birth?
either way is there a "cure" or is it like other addictions like alcoholism or drugs?
if its an addiction is it a sin when a person cannot resist it ?
 
Elsie said:
I don't believe it's a sin to be afflicted with homosexuality, but homosexual sexual acts definitely are! An orphan child needs to have an adoptive biological father and a biological woman mother. Likely most loving homosexual parents will raise their adopted child with love, however no matter how 'okay' it is publicly and personally accepted, as the child grows into adulthood, they may come to learn that their "parents" are living a life of sin denied.
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Especially if people with your views make it their business to TEACH THE Children WELL.
 
I think it is a private desire to not have children via natural birth.

Maybe many do not wed legally, just party same sex relationships for a while.

Many turn down prospective husbands / wives to choose Career freedoms.

It used to be termed closet. Many suffer terrible endings.
 
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Twostep said:
I have seen folks who learned the system to the max living well.... and PhDs stocking shelves.
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You have not seen PhDs stocking shelves, unless they were...

Stocking shelves in a university classroom, with books for their students.
Stocking shelves in a research laboratory, so their research team can do research.
Stocking shelves in their home library, with books that they authored.
Stocking the shelves in the office where they practice medicine.

I don't care what their original circumstances were, no one spends 8 to 12 years as a student of higher education working toward a PhD, and invests tens of thousands of dollars in tuition and school supplies every one of those years, who ultimately winds up stocking shelves at a retail store.

You can tell me all day you have seen it, that does not happen.

Someone who earned an Associates or Bachelors, sure, until they can find something better, or while they work their way toward their next degree, but PhDs are offered a position as soon as they're handed their degree, if one isn't already waiting for them.

"I have seen folks who learned the system to the max living well"

They get by ok, but living well compared to whom?
 
There always has been and always will be poor people. Actually, the majority of the worlds population barely gets by. It also depends on how you perceive poor. My parents came up poor during the depression and my father told me didn't know he was poor. They always had enough to get by and was very happy. I've never made over 22k in my life and didn't want for anything.
 

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