Does the Paranormal Actually Exist

Mike

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Maybe I should have put this in the General Discussions
area, under "Who Knew? Some Fun Facts"!

This question was asked by a news journalist on the TV
this evening.

The reason, because the "London Experience", a tourist
attraction, formally called "The London Dungeon", they
have bought a painting that is reputed to be cursed, or
is it a piece of publicity, just before "Halloween".

The picture was sold by a charity shop in Hastings, on the
South Coast, twice they sold it and twice it was returned,
by the people who bought it, then experienced bad luck.

My close encounter with the 'haunted' portrait
of the girl with a creepy gaze: Painting that proved
too scary to own is now on the wall at London
attraction - do YOU dare go and see it?​


Full Story here

Mike.
 

I'm left wondering how much is "haunted" and how much is "if I tell people it's creepy, then they'll think it's creepy"

Add in that a tourist attraction bought it and there ya go, means, motive and opportunity. :)

Just for reference, I'm a paranormal enthusiast, I've been into it my whole life.
 
Depends on how you define paranormal and/or supernatural.
Me, i think both those labels are erroneous, they get slapped on things science can't explain and most people don't understand. I've had many personal experiences with such and they don't disturb me. Puzzle, intrigue, surprise and sometimes delight me but not scare or even make nervous.

Have known adults who couldn't sleep or needed lights on after watching a movie like the Exorcist. I'm more affected by something like 'See No Evil' in which the threat is a deranged but very human being.
This particular case in the OP, is likely heavily influenced by how suggestible many people are, as @NewlySenior said. Movies and TV shows have also fueled many misconceptions about all sorts of 'unexplained' phenomena. Books can do the same with people who have very visual minds, that as one of my boys said at age 8 "...see movie in their heads when reading." (He was shocked at that not everyone does.)
 

I definitely agree that most purported "paranormal" activity is often easily debunked. I've never had any experiences but I'm still fascinated. I just read a book series, "It Happened To Me! - Fortean Times" and there were some stories in there that, if true, are pretty weird.

feywon said:
Books can do the same with people who have very visual minds, that as one of my boys said at age 8 "...see movie in their heads when reading." (He was shocked at that not everyone does.)
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I do this as well, I once had a conversation with someone about our favorite books and I asked her who she'd cast if a movie was made from the book. That was when I found out I'm apparently the only person who mentally "casts" Hollywood actors in the "mind movie" I make from the book I'm reading. Gives my brain more to do I guess :)
 
Of course it does. Thereā€™s an entire field called parapsychology. You can get a master degree in it.
Careers in Parapsychology/Psychical Research - Division of Perceptual Studies

If it didnā€™t exist, there wouldnā€™t be enough information to cover such a degree.

There are probably more subjects we as humans know little to nothing about but our ignorance doesnā€™t instantly eliminate them. Everything at its core is molecular; then there is quantum physics & quantum mechanics ā€¦.

As humans we should accept the fact that we truly donā€™t know much about our very existence in a never ending galaxy of galaxies.
 
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Great way to hype the sale of a portrait. Not something I'd buy simply because she isn't a family member. But do appreciate the work of the artist that painted that portrait.

Who knows maybe eventually that portrait will gain fame like the portrait of the Mona Lisa. :)

As for paranormal who knows what those people felt to be real.
 
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I do this as well, I once had a conversation with someone about our favorite books and I asked her who she'd cast if a movie was made from the book. That was when I found out I'm apparently the only person who mentally "casts" Hollywood actors in the "mind movie" I make from the book I'm reading. Gives my brain more to do I guess :)
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Some people's brains are highly visual, others have virtually no "mind's eye" researchers still learning details about this, various levels of visualization and how common they are in various demographics. Suspect a genetic component as my Dad was highly visual, i am, all 3 of my kids and my grandson.

I seem to recall reading some decades ago that men had better 'spatial' perception--gauging if/how an object or group of them would fit in a given space. But my own spatial perception is quite good. Throughout life when rearranging furniture or packing a truck for move it has always been quick and easy for me. But being a practical sort now that age is limiting daily energy reserves when rearranging furniture i've started to measure objects and spaces just in case that ability is faltering as well. During most recent changes in my home i was gratified to find it still works well.
 
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Knight said:
Great way to hype the sale of a portrait. Not something I'd buy simply because she isn't a family member. But do appreciate the work of the artist that painted that portrait.

Who knows maybe eventually that portrait will gain fame like the portrait of the Mona Lisa. :)

As for paranormal who knows what those people felt to be real.
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The "casting" thing above is weird to me. Call me simple.

I prefer an actor to bring a character to life, not to wear it as a frogman suit. We seem to get a lot of actors who play the same character in whatever they do.

That can be good or bad. Woody playing... Woody:

 
I think I misunderstood the question.

To me it is hard to separate the "just not understood by mankind yet if ever" from the "wishful thinking and fears with logical arguments behind them." There isn't a lot that I can firmly judge to belong in either category.
 
Makes it easy for science fiction writers but has ALWAYS fallen short with any credible science investigation.

IMO as someone that studies neuroscience, physics, and electromagnetics because it was part of my career, I would say NOT. Our minds within our Earth creature brains, are oscillating electromagnetic standing wave fields within our organic neuron brain systems. Neither humans nor ANY other animals have been shown to be able to transmit such fields anywhere, much less outside their bodies. And even if they did, it would require a complex receiver to decodes such fields that also doesn't exist within any creatures.

It may be possible for ancient UIEs to use special H2O water molecules combined with given the Planck scale, far smaller speculative lab created controlling matter to create an entity that can actually enter our brains that is mostly water and empty space. In a few NT Bible verses, Jesus relates the gift of "special water" is key to eternal life. As a gaseous field of communicating special water molecules, that could in fact be the physical nature of the Holy Spirit, if such exists. But that is not mind reading from outside the body but rather from within just as such verses state.
 
Well, I don't think her gaze is creepy at all. I wonder how much the power of suggestion contributed to previous owners being spooked by the painting. :unsure: And of course, as I think you already know, the "paranormal" does exist. And since this is the forum for paranormal and strange events, you posted this thread in the right place.
 

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