Drag queen story hour in Idaho?

Pepper said:
I thought the article was well thought out and well written. I miss intellectuals like William F. Buckley. Wasn't it he who took down the John Birch Society? Anyway, I treasure conservatives who really put great effort in making their points in a non hysterical manner. So there. I'm not horrified at all, just disagree.

You may have told me it was conservative, but I told you I have cognition issues. I missed your explanation entirely! Have patience with me, please.
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Buckley is probably not a good example of a rational and reasonable conservative. He called Gore Vidal a derogatory name for homosexuals during one of their debates. That's what people do when they can't argue with logic and facts. We see that same kind of thing happening here on SFs on occasion.
 

SeniorBen said:
Buckley is probably not a good example of a rational and reasonable conservative. He called Gore Vidal a derogatory name for homosexuals during one of their debates. That's what people do when they can't argue with logic and facts. We see that same kind of thing happening here on SFs on occasion.
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Well, I knew I could only agree with you once. Buckley did call Gore Vidal a "queer", after Vidal called him a crypto-Nazi. And that was 50 years ago, when attitudes toward the subject of homosexuality were very different. Buckley also said in the same exchange, "I'll sock you in the mouth and you'll stay plastered," referring to Vidal's alcoholism.

Vidal was a talented novelist (sometimes) but a total idiot on all matters political. He called Timothy McVeigh "a martyr to liberty." Buckley could out-reason and out-debate him all day long.
 
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JimBob1952 said:
No one at SF seems willing to read anything longer than a paragraph. However this article from City Journal (a publication from the conservative Manhattan Institute) explains how an academic concept called Queer Theory led to Drag Queen Story Hour. Spoiler alert: DQHS is not aimed at building tolerance and acceptance.


The Real Story Behind Drag Queen Story Hour | City Journal (city-journal.org)
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The point here is: it is a political agenda, not even close to educating or entertaining. I've gone to one Drag Queen show in the Village in NYC many years ago. It was intended for adults, and one had to be 21 to attend. If this were about explaining what men in drag is all about in order to educate youngsters, I could accept this entire issue. But, when it is a political platform without a scintilla of reasoning behind it, then, no. Even children of a very early age will not grasp this entire dynamic. As it stands, it is sensationalizing, that's all.
 
While I enjoyed the show I still feel having a drag queen read to children is not the best idea.
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One-Eyed, Diva, exactly. I personally think Dame Edna (real name: Barry Humphries) is a hoot, I don't think "her" persona or humor is appropriate for 3-year-olds, and would not take a very young child to her performances.

I'm not overly fond of pedophile priests, either, for those who chose to introduce them into this discussion. I'm not Catholic, but if I were, I would be very, very cautious about letting my child or grandchild be an altar boy.

But this is not about pedophilia, and I doubt that too many of the drag queens are trying to seduce toddlers. I think they are using the toddlers as a political prop for their own cause, and there's something sickening about that.
 
SeniorBen said:
Buckley is probably not a good example of a rational and reasonable conservative. He called Gore Vidal a derogatory name for homosexuals during one of their debates. That's what people do when they can't argue with logic and facts. We see that same kind of thing happening here on SFs on occasion.
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Compared to those in the present William F. Buckley was good example of a rational and reasonable conservative. The fact that he was homophobic is not surprising, but back then nobody got called out on that.
 
SeniorBen said:
Isn't being a drag queen just a fashion statement? It's guys who like women's clothes and makeup and they want to adapt women's fashion for themselves? That's what it seems like to me, and it seems extremely superficial and vain.
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Drag queens are performers, Ben. They aren't technically transvestites and aren't necessarily gay, but a lot of them are...not that you even mentioned gay, I'm just saying, men who call themselves drag queens are female impersonators.

They entertain people by impersonating women in an over-the-top way. Some impersonate famous women like Cher or Marilyn Monroe, some impersonate multiple famous women, and some just do their own thing, like RuPaul and Bianca Del Rio. If they are lucky enough to become professional entertainers, they can make pretty decent money. RuPaul and Bianca Del Rio make gazillions.
 
We are inching closer to WWIII, and some are all in a thither over supposedly some guy in a dress reading stories to some kids, somewhere in Idaho.
To be honest, this sounds more like pre-election day hype, designed to rattle some cages. I have a hard time believing there are millions of Drag Queens descending on schools to read stories.
And BTW, heterosexuals make up a substantial portion of "drag queens".
 
I agree, Fuzzy. This is not a "gay" issue. If somebody wanted to read stories to toddlers dressed as a very scary boogeyman, I'd be just as opposed. Or like Margorie Taylor Greene, or a gun rights activist. Or a religious fanatic of any ilk.

People should not be using very young children as props for their causes.
 
In the early days of American television, Milton Berle among others made men appearing in drag a hilarious comic tradition, the joke being that “Uncle Miltie” couldn’t even remotely pass as female. As the years passed, male comedians on television in drag became rarer. Curiously, however, competitions for charity where men “race” while wearing high heels persist to this day on the local level. I’m not entirely sure what message is being sent here, if any…

Across the pond, Benny Hill was well-known for appearing in drag! For the Brits here, is drag still as much of a comic tradition?

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What puzzles me these days, is since they tell me the sexes have become non-binary, trans gender etc, What determines that a man is dressing as a woman? :unsure:
It's also puzzling how few women are dressing in chino's and white tee shirts. (preferably with a pack of camels rolled up in the sleeve.
 
A Drag Queen's recounting of a children's story? Hmm...

"Little Purple Riding Hood visited her Grandperson and said, "Oh my! What FABULOUS teeth you have!!"

Alright, I think I just jumped the shark with that one.
 

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