Elementary School Shooting in Uvalde Texas

[Bretrick]

I keep listening to updated reports on the radio whilst travelling to work.
This mornings report went for more than 5 minutes and I was continually wiping teats from my eyes.
I feel this so much, young children slain, teachers slain.
Imagine being one of the children in those classrooms watching this happening. Those that were not killed are going to have a very hard life into the future.

 

[Bretrick]

The irony is that he was probably bullied because of his looks, which resulted in his hatred of the world and caused him to go on a murder spree. To some extent, it was a self-fulfilling prophecy. People who are treated like that aren't going to be well adjusted and productive members of society. Most of the time when they act on their anger and depression, it's directed inward and they kill themselves. Suicide is part of the plan with almost all of these shooters and they want to take as many others with them when they kill themselves.

Maybe if there weren't so many SOBs out there bullying people, these things wouldn't happen so often, but that seems to be just part of human nature. Survival of the fittest. And there's no changing human nature, which is why the only viable solution is banning the most deadly weapons and the weapon of choice for these mass murderers: the AR-15 style rifle. Sure, there will still be mass murders, but not on the scale or frequency that we're seeing.

I have spoken about bullying at school and there were many men who said it is up to the child being bullied to stand up for themselves.
What a terrible way to look at this situation. I was bullied and beaten at school. There was no way I could have stood up to those standing over me.
The reason bullies pick on certain children is because the child is naturally reserved, timid, quite. An easy target for the cowardly bully.
Much more needs to be done about those who bully.
Maybe at the end of a school day, someone needs to review the school cctv to see who is standing over people.
Yes, this will only pick up the overt offenders, much more goes on on the sly.

 

[Tish]

The gun laws need to be tightened.

 

[SeniorBen]

I have spoken about bullying at school and there were many men who said it is up to the child being bullied to stand up for themselves.
What a terrible way to look at this situation. I was bullied and beaten at school. There was no way I could have stood up to those standing over me.
The reason bullies pick on certain children is because the child is naturally reserved, timid, quite. An easy target for the cowardly bully.
Much more needs to be done about those who bully.
Maybe at the end of a school day, someone needs to review the school cctv to see who is standing over people.
Yes, this will only pick up the overt offenders, much more goes on on the sly.

This kid's problems went further than that. His mother sounds like a real loser/drug addict who emotionally abused her son to the point where he went to live with his grandparents.

He was bullied at school, bullied at home, had a speech impediment and few friends. He also had easy access to high-powered, high-capacity firearms. The rest is history.

 

[Jace]

Going in another direction...
Even " before all the incidents"
When my kids were in school...you couldn't just walk in...after school started
And you wanted to get in..the doors were locked and you had to geyt "buzzed in".
Can't believe all schools Don't do this..
Why...Hasn't this be done to keep kids safe!
When are THEY going to do something to keep all kids safe??

 

[Lewkat]

There was a time when bullying at school was not tolerated. Sadly, as a few generations have passed, the kids are protected by their parents who will never accept that their kid is a bully. Also, since we are so sue conscious, no one wants to get involved for fear of losing everything. Let us be clear; in the USA our Constitution does not contain one word regarding one's right to privacy. No where can you find that word, yet some smart aleck law clerks for our Supreme Court Justices circumvented one's right to a pursuit of life, liberty and happiness, equates with privacy and it has been accepted in several cases as case law. But to intervene in a bullying situation no one's right to privacy is being abrogated and I feel it is incumbent upon teachers, parents and anyone else to put a stop to it before it gets out of hand. That's why all this bullying has been what is termed, "overlooked." Ignorance is not bliss, folks.

 

[win231]

I have spoken about bullying at school and there were many men who said it is up to the child being bullied to stand up for themselves.
What a terrible way to look at this situation. I was bullied and beaten at school. There was no way I could have stood up to those standing over me.
The reason bullies pick on certain children is because the child is naturally reserved, timid, quite. An easy target for the cowardly bully.
Much more needs to be done about those who bully.
Maybe at the end of a school day, someone needs to review the school cctv to see who is standing over people.
Yes, this will only pick up the overt offenders, much more goes on on the sly.

When I spoke to my moronic school administrators about being bullied ("Fatso, Chubby, 4 eyes, pushing & shoving, etc") I was told, "You are old enough to fight your own battles."
I took their advice - & was suspended for Fighting in School.
My classmates never knew how lucky they were that I hated violence even more than I hated them - considering what I could have done to them.

 

[hollydolly]

The mother of the sick school shooter who shot dead 19 children and two teachers in Texas has claimed he 'wasn't a violent person'.

Adriana Reyes said she was 'surprised' Salvador Ramos opened fire in a horrific killing spree at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde yesterday.

She admitted her son was a loner who 'kept to himself and didn't have many friends' but shot down reports she had a toxic relationship with him.

In an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com she did not address claims she was a drug addict who saw the boy ditch her and go to live with his grandmother Celia Gonzalez.

Reyes was speaking from the bedside of Gonzalez, 66, as she recovers from being blasted in the face by her vile grandson before he went on a rampage and shot dead 19 children and two teachers.

He had bought two AR-15 assault rifles, bragged about them on social media and suggested he would commit an atrocity before the deadly attack.

But earlier today Ramos' grandfather revealed the family had no idea he legally purchased the two weapons last week.

Rolando Reyes, 74, Gonzalez's husband, also claimed his grandson had been a quiet teenager who spent most of his time alone in his room.

The mother...

...The injured grandmother..

Speaking from San Antonio, Reyes said: 'My son wasn't a violent person. I'm surprised by what he did.

'I pray for those families. I'm praying for all of those innocent children, yes I am. They [the children] had no part in this.'

She was speaking from the hospital where her mother Gonzalez was still being treated for the gunshot wounds to her face.

She also slapped down reports she had a toxic relationship with her son that may have warped his personality. She continued: 'I had a good relationship with him. He kept to himself; he didn't have many friends.'

She said the last time she spoke with him was last Monday, on his birthday, adding: 'I had a card and a Snoopy stuffed animal to give to him.'

She claims she did not know where Salvador shot her mother but added, me and my sister are going to care for her when she gets home to Uvalde.

 

[Jules]

And you wanted to get in..the doors were locked and you had to geyt "buzzed in".

It slows them down but won’t prevent a determined nut. If a shooter wants to kill, he can just stand at the school fence and kill many with that AR15.

 

[chic]

This tragic event is the result of what has happened to us as a a people over the past 2+ years where our leaders have created a desperate society by enforcing a new order almost overnight while they remain untouched by their dictus. It's inequality on every level with the worst possible outcome.

 

[oldman]

All the schools in my area keep the doors locked throughout the day. I officiate high school basketball and still do afternoon games beginning at 4:00, which are junior high games. I have to show ID to enter.

Is this the case in every state?

Not necessarily.

 

[Chet]

All the schools in my area keep the doors locked throughout the day. I officiate high school basketball and still do afternoon games beginning at 4:00, which are junior high games. I have to show ID to enter.

Not necessarily.

In the end, school security is the school's responsibility.

 

[StarSong]

There was a time when bullying at school was not tolerated. Sadly, as a few generations have passed, the kids are protected by their parents who will never accept that their kid is a bully. Also, since we are so sue conscious, no one wants to get involved for fear of losing everything. Let us be clear; in the USA our Constitution does not contain one word regarding one's right to privacy. No where can you find that word, yet some smart aleck law clerks for our Supreme Court Justices circumvented one's right to a pursuit of life, liberty and happiness, equates with privacy and it has been accepted in several cases as case law. But to intervene in a bullying situation no one's right to privacy is being abrogated and I feel it is incumbent upon teachers, parents and anyone else to put a stop to it before it gets out of hand. That's why all this bullying has been what is termed, "overlooked." Ignorance is not bliss, folks.

I never knew a time when schools seriously intervened when kids were bullied. Certainly not when I grew up in the 50s & 60s in NY & NJ. Children were left to sort problems out for themselves and if they were a little "different" - chubby, very short (boys), disabled, odd looking, effeminate boys or masculine girls, awkward, unable to manage their tempers, and so forth, they were ostracized or teased. After school fistfights between boys were commonplace.

During childhood and teens nearly everyone yearns to fit in, above all else.

To me, the lesson of this shooting is not whether this boy was bullied or mentally ill, but rather why our country doesn't have the courage to stand up to people who demand the right to unfettered access to lethal weapons. As it stands now, virtually anyone with a mind to "settle a score" can get access to weaponry that allows him (and it's nearly always a him) to do so. In spades.

Yes, this young man had a rough life. I get it. That said, the 19 children and 2 adults he murdered in cold blood were not responsible for his miseries.

Every time I go to Costco, a grocery store, or a place where many are gathered, I cannot help but wonder if this will be my unlucky day. I look around to search out where I could run, where I could hide? How long would it take the police to arrive? I have the same worries for my children and grandchildren as they go about their lives.

Will they be safe or will some crazed person with the means and motive cut short their lives?

Out of control gun ownership, particularly of automatic weaponry is little more than cutting our noses to spite our faces. When the next shooting happens - and there will be a next one, very soon - just remember to not ask for whom the bell tolls. It tolls for us all.

(Edited to correct grammatical errors.)

 

[StarSong]

Come on people, stop looking at the state, the color of their skin. This is about the mentally ill. This happens when mentally ill people get to the breaking point. They just want us to see and know the pain they were in and we did nothing to help them. Would anybody in their right mind do this, I don't think so.

Then let's stop putting guns and other war-style weaponry in the hands of people whose mental status and motives we cannot determine.

I hesitate to say this but freedom is very highly valued in US and the gun has been elevated to the symbol of freedom. It is heresy to say that it is actually a just a tool for killing people you don't like, especially for racists and fanatics.

So true.

It looks like all schools need to be fortified. Starting at the gate, which needs to be some distance from the school building.
Have every parent use an entrance card to activate the gate.
Each child to be admitted individually.
Armed guards at every school.
This sounds really scary but extreme measures need to be taken.

You must be kidding. How about eliminating the weapons instead? We've got to stop the free flow of guns and rifles that wreak mass destruction. And yes, I consider 21 people in a classroom as an act of mass destruction.

When you find yourself in a deep hole the wisest first action is to stop digging.
Americans seem to think the best solutions involve bigger, more powerful shovels in larger quantities.

 

[WhatInThe]

The mother of the sick school shooter who shot dead 19 children and two teachers in Texas has claimed he 'wasn't a violent person'.

Adriana Reyes said she was 'surprised' Salvador Ramos opened fire in a horrific killing spree at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde yesterday.

She admitted her son was a loner who 'kept to himself and didn't have many friends' but shot down reports she had a toxic relationship with him.

In an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com she did not address claims she was a drug addict who saw the boy ditch her and go to live with his grandmother Celia Gonzalez.

Reyes was speaking from the bedside of Gonzalez, 66, as she recovers from being blasted in the face by her vile grandson before he went on a rampage and shot dead 19 children and two teachers.

He had bought two AR-15 assault rifles, bragged about them on social media and suggested he would commit an atrocity before the deadly attack.

But earlier today Ramos' grandfather revealed the family had no idea he legally purchased the two weapons last week.

Rolando Reyes, 74, Gonzalez's husband, also claimed his grandson had been a quiet teenager who spent most of his time alone in his room.

The mother...

...The injured grandmother..

Speaking from San Antonio, Reyes said: 'My son wasn't a violent person. I'm surprised by what he did.

'I pray for those families. I'm praying for all of those innocent children, yes I am. They [the children] had no part in this.'

She was speaking from the hospital where her mother Gonzalez was still being treated for the gunshot wounds to her face.

She also slapped down reports she had a toxic relationship with her son that may have warped his personality. She continued: 'I had a good relationship with him. He kept to himself; he didn't have many friends.'

She said the last time she spoke with him was last Monday, on his birthday, adding: 'I had a card and a Snoopy stuffed animal to give to him.'

She claims she did not know where Salvador shot her mother but added, me and my sister are going to care for her when she gets home to Uvalde.

Considering the murderer wanted to live with his grandparents and the mother wants to downplay their poor relationship is ridiculous. She's part of the reason he was a troubled kid that turned into a mass murderer. Where was the father although the grandfather seems to have stepped in.

Read where he wore eye liner to work at a Wendy's and he got mocked for that as well. So mocked in school and at work-surprised he didn't go postal there. A Wendy's salary can buy an 18 year old a cell phone and 2 thousand dollar rifles? And gear?

And conflicting reports-Did he dropout of high school or did he complete the year and was due to graduate himself?

 

[morgan]

Those who are bullied may not have a mental illness, but constant bullying develops a sickness in the head, so when the rage comes the bullied cannot see or think straight, so let fly at all and sundry. I am making no excuses for this shooter, but the signs were there, he was bullied relentlessly, according to reports he cut hisface. A bad home life, a bad school life. Life must have stunk for him and so the innocent pay. What is the answer? I say close the gun shops, yes an impossible dream.

 

[dseag2]

I watched the news this morning (for a change) and I cried as they described each of these young victims and the 2 teachers. One student had just been to an awards ceremony with this mother. Another was holding up an achievement award for making "A"s. She was calling 911 as she was shot. It just broke my heart. These kids were going to make something of themselves, and now they don't have the chance to bring their talents into a world that badly needs them. I also thought of how these parents must feel going into an empty room with memories of their children. It was just emotionally overwhelming.

I was in Walgreens today and a young mother told the cashier she was picking up her daughter from school across the street. The cashier told her to cherish every moment with her child. This is just all so wrong.

 

[dseag2]

Interesting Stephen Colbert and Jacinda Ardern on gun control in New Zealand. So sad that there a so many US politicians in the pocket of the NRA so this can't happen here.

 

[Don M.]

Every time there is one of these mass shootings, the politicians offer their "thoughts and prayers", then soon go back to spending most of their time meeting with the Lobbyists. Trying to substantially reduce the number of firearms in our civilian population is basically a lost cause. There are nearly 400 million guns in the hands of our people, and there is NO national database on gun ownership.

About all that these highly publicized shootings do is to drive gun and ammo sales even higher. IF there was a program initiated trying to get gun owners to turn in their weapons to the government, only a small fraction of owners would comply. And, if there was a mandate ordering the confiscation of guns, we would quickly descend into a civil war. Even if such moves were successful in the general population, there would still be a huge number if weapons in the hands of the criminals....placing most people at increased risk.

There is NO easy or effective solution to these tragedies. A substantial portion of our population are just walking time bombs that can go over the edge at the slightest provocation.

 

[Alice November]

This kind of gun can kill a lot of little children quickly. He locked the door behind him, they had no where to run inthat single classroom.

From France 24 News:

"The type of weapon, commonly known as the AR-15, is once again under scrutiny after a gunman used the rifle to kill 19 children and two teachers in Uvalde Texas. Here are some key facts about the AR-15:

- Why are AR-15s so lethal? -

The AR-15 is a semi-automatic weapon, meaning a user can fire multiple shots in quick succession.

Its cousin, the M-16, has been used by the US military since Vietnam. While some military assault rifles are fully automatic, civilians are prohibited from owning such weapons in most circumstances.

AR-15s fire high-velocity bullets that travel at triple the speed of a handgun round, are accurate over long distances, and cause expansive, devastating wounds to soft tissue and internal organs.

Salvador Ramos used a high-end AR-15 from manufacturer Daniel Defense to attack Robb Elementary school on Tuesday.

While handguns account for more deaths per year in the United States, AR-15s are frequently used in high-profile mass shootings."

 

[Remy]

@dseag2 Have you seen the spin Faux News is putting on Beto O'Rourke?

@terry123 Are some past online posts coming out that this murderer made? I hadn't heard that. Agree with your post quoted above. I'm not buying the 'we had no idea' family crap. Some parents just don't want to get what is going on with their kids. Easier for them.

 

[Remy]

@hollydolly Very very interesting and frankly very sad. I'm not believing anything coming from that family at this point.

Does everyone in your part of the world think we are nuts?

 

[dseag2]

@dseag2 Have you seen the spin Faux News is putting on Beto O'Rourke?

No, but I can only imagine. I go to the gym several days a week and there are TVs lining the wall. I am usually on an elliptical machine positioned between Fox News and CNN. I laugh when I see the opposing spins they put on their stories. It's actually sad, but I have to laugh at something.

I can't watch Fox News on Youtube because Maria Bartiromo ads pop up and she scares me!

 

[Nathan]

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[Abbi Dabbi Doo]

It is extremely sad and disgusting to hear all the political bantering back and forth on this when parents of these children who were killed are having to set up funeral arrangements. I can't even imagine going through that and these politicians offer up thoughts and prayers, but then go on with all this disgusting bantering. It is sad.