Ever Have A Body Action That Triggers Other Involuntary Movements?

SeaBreeze

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Doesn't happen all the time, but just happened again last night in bed. I yawned, and the fingers of one hand simultaneously bent closed a bit until the yawn was over. This has happened before, and I found it very spontaneous and odd.

The other thing is I've been having fairly frequent foot/toe cramps for the past few years, something new. Noticed it when I was doing dance moves at a Zumba class at the gym. I sometimes make the effort to get my Magnesium Oil, and that relieves the cramp in seconds. When I get a toe cramp now, I noticed that the last three toes of that foot will uncontrollably curl under. Never had that experience before in my life.

Do you ever have a body action that triggers other involuntary movements?
 

Never have those kinds of cramps. Sometimes I get leg cramps but I stretch my legs; standing a foot or so facing the wall,
then lean forward (with heels flat). {You know the drill.} That usually does the trick.

Also eating a banana sometimes prevents cramps. (potassium).
 
I heard that Potassium was good for cramps, I usually eat a banana almost daily. Magnesium Citrate is a supplement I take daily that is good for the muscles. It's weird when your toes or fingers move on their own. :eek:
 
In the arch of my foot all the time. My toes get all screwy looking and do things I would never get them to do on my own. It's a sign to eat a banana. This usually helps.


Funny I was thinking low potassium as a possibility. However, I should also mention I sometimes get sever charlie cramps and such down to toes curling at times after eating bananas guess too much p in those instances
 
I get bizarre foot and hand cramps (my hand curls up longwise -- the neurologist calls it "reaching-in syndrome"-- and my toes go in all different directions). I have two kinds of nerve conduction studies tomorrow afternoon. I'd sure like to know why, why and why. I get tired of the term "idiopathic".
 
Bananas and Their Potassium

I heard that Potassium was good for cramps, I usually eat a banana almost daily. Magnesium Citrate is a supplement I take daily that is good for the muscles. It's weird when your toes or fingers move on their own. :eek:

Popularly touted, but consider this: The average daily adult recommended intake of potassium is about 4,000 mg. One banana has 194 mg of potassium on average, so, assuming 100% assimilation of it, ya gotta eat 20 bananas daily, if they are relied upon for adequate potassium.

Personally, I like salty taste, since my loss of smell and taste is pretty profound, and salty or sweet are the only tasty affect anymore, I use No-Salt exclusively on food and in cooking in place of regular salt. No-Salt is Potassium Chloride, contains 2,600 mg of Potassium per teaspoonful. Just sayin'. imp
 
"Reaching-in Syndrome" ---- Not good! Ya wanna be more, like, "Reaching Out".......:rolleyes:

imp
 
Oh, yeah....this morning, awakened with both knees drawn up, I went to stretch straight out, and the most painful "Charlie-horse" struck my right calf! Bending the knee did nothing to alleviate it, very painful and persistent, I found by bending my foot upwards, that tended to "release" the spasm, but only momentarily. I wondered how I'd get to the john......it was gone in about 15 or 20 seconds. imp
 
I understand Imp that too much potassium can cause kidney failure. Besides the banana there's other foods that have potassium that many people eat daily, not to mention any potassium that may be included in a daily multi vitamin/mineral capsule. I don't think any of us could get the maximum amounts of recommended vitamins and minerals daily, unless maybe if we paid a lot of money for specialty supplements.

Duke University and the American Kidney Foundation
have divided foods into low, moderate and high potassium groups. Some of the more common foods in each category are:


HIGH potassium (more than 225 milligrams per 1/2 c. serving)
These foods would be beneficial to athletes or to others who incur heavy fluid loss. Patients on potassium-restricted diets should avoid them, or eat them sparingly, as advised by their nutritionist.

All meats, poultry and fish are high in potassium.
Apricots (fresh more so than canned)
Avocado
Banana
Cantaloupe
Honeydew
Kiwi
Lima beans
Milk
Oranges and orange juice
Potatoes (can be reduced to moderate by soaking peeled, sliced potatoes overnight before cooking)
Prunes
Spinach
Tomatoes
Vegetable juice
Winter squash

MODERATE (125 - 225 mg per serving)
These foods can be a large part of most people's balanced plan. Persons restricting their potassium might be cautioned to include no more than one or two servings from this list per day, depending on their medical restrictions.

Apple juice
Asparagus
Beets
Blackberries
Broccoli
Carrots
Cherries
Corn
Eggplant
Grapefruit
Green peas
Loose-leaf lettuce
Mushrooms, fresh
Onions
Peach
Pears
Pineapple
Raisins
Raspberries
Strawberries
Summer squash, including zucchini
Tangerines
Watermelon

LOW potassium (less than 125 mg per serving)
These foods give less electrolyte value per serving for people who need to increase their potassium levels.
They should be a major part of the menu plan for people limiting their intake.

Apples
Bell peppers
Blueberries
Cabbage
Cranberries
Cranberry juice
Cucumber
Fruit cocktail
Grapes
Green beans
Iceberg lettuce
Mandarin oranges, canned
Mushrooms
Peaches, canned
Pineapple, fresh Plums

 
I sometimes get the "toe cramps"...and walking around for a couple of minutes takes care of that. I also get a cramp in the base of my thumbs if I've done some heavy work that involves some heavy use of a wrench, etc. When that happens, I just run the hands under some warm water for a couple of minutes, and the muscles loosen back up. The worst, for me, are leg cramps on the rear thigh muscles...that muscle will knot up and feel like a baseball. Again, getting up and limping around for a couple of minutes generally takes care of it....and then I go eat a couple of bananas.
 
I heard that Potassium was good for cramps, I usually eat a banana almost daily. Magnesium Citrate is a supplement I take daily that is good for the muscles. It's weird when your toes or fingers move on their own. :eek:

I'm taking mag citrate in hopes of lessening some pain throughout my body. Supposed to help with insomnia and anxiety, etc.
 
Thank you, SB, for the listing of foods. I did not intend to imply that only bananas might keep us from deficiency. I see where many of my favorite foods provide lots of Potassium. When I first learned that ADR of Potassium was double that of Sodium, I worried a bit, because Potassium is said to play a critical part in heartbeat and heart rhythm. imp
 
Sometime I get a twitch in my eyelid and even rubbing it doesn't make it go away not sure what causes it
 
Doesn't happen all the time, but just happened again last night in bed. I yawned, and the fingers of one hand simultaneously bent closed a bit until the yawn was over. This has happened before, and I found it very spontaneous and odd.

The other thing is I've been having fairly frequent foot/toe cramps for the past few years, something new. Noticed it when I was doing dance moves at a Zumba class at the gym. I sometimes make the effort to get my Magnesium Oil, and that relieves the cramp in seconds. When I get a toe cramp now, I noticed that the last three toes of that foot will uncontrollably curl under. Never had that experience before in my life.

Do you ever have a body action that triggers other involuntary movements?

The only one I can think of when I sneeze it triggers a couple of different, socially unacceptable "movements".

I know yours isn't anything to laugh about, and I think that getting older can just be so weird. I mean with different unexplainable things happening. The worse part is telling the doctor and they say it's just age:(

I did hear that ACV (apple cider vinegar) is very helpful in getting rid of cramping. I don't know if you are to take "when" the cramp happens or on a daily basis. I'll have to check that out;) I do hope someone will have some further "real" info for you SB, hug, denise
 
A bit off subject, but has anyone tried this? I'm going to give it a go.

Hi Pappy,

I think this is wonderful for a cold, top notch, and tastes so good too:) Although I found it wasn't working with one "cold" then I found out I had bronchitis. I did find an over-the-counter remedy that worked amazingly with the horrible cough I had. That was the Equate brand of Delphym? The ingredient is called dextromethorphan. So the cough syrups that say DM have that I guess.

To keep with SBs post, I wanted to say that I get coughs (bronchitus) that cause me to gag, and actually not be able to suck in any air, scared me so bad. Finding this syrup otc, was a real blessing because the doc was prescribing meds, but only one time as I guess they are addictive.
 
If I get lazy about taking my Cal/Mag I get horrible leg cramps, especially at night. We keep tonic water by the bed and I just take a few sips of that. It's the Quinine that helps. I hate the taste of tonic water and if I remember to I can buy little homeopathic pills at the health food store for leg cramps and they have Quinine in them. They work great too. My husband told our neighbor lady about the tonic water and later she told him it didn't help. She said she had been rubbing it all over her legs. :) I guess it wasn't really funny but we thought it was. Anyway, after she started DRINKING it, it helped her too. I know 3 or 4 other people that use the tonic water this way.
 
[h=2]Ever Have A Body Action That Triggers Other Involuntary Movements? Seabreeze to answer your original question. One body area greatly affects other areas and that is the whole thing behind reflexology. We usually just do it on the feet but I have books on hand reflexology, body reflexology, the whole thing. It's very interesting. If anyone is really interested they can google it and get more info. To get much response in helping or even healing a problem in your body you have to work at lest 30 minutes on your feet and our hand pain won't let us make it past 5 minutes. I just noticed a foot reflexology place opened up next door to the lab we use. It's usually only $20 bucks but so far I haven't had the nerve to go in one of those places because if it turns out to be a man working there (unless he's super handsome) I'm going to turn around and run like heck. I don't even let a strange guy help me try on shoes at the shoe store. [/h]
 
Low calcium can also cause muscle cramping. I had a spell of muscle spasms a while back, doc did some blood work and said I had very low calcium and that was a big part of the problem and he told me to take supplements of that and D-3, which I was also low on. Did the trick.
 
Low calcium can also cause muscle cramping. I had a spell of muscle spasms a while back, doc did some blood work and said I had very low calcium and that was a big part of the problem and he told me to take supplements of that and D-3, which I was also low on. Did the trick.
That is so true Butterfly. We also take D-3. It's when I get lazy about taking my herbs, vitamins and supplements that I run into so much trouble. My husband's Dr's have him take Cal/mag, D-3 to help keep his bones strong as they feel (and I sure agree) that cancer is more apt to move into unhealthy weak bones than healthy ones. Or at lest he is buying more time.

Our neighbor who broke her upper leg a couple years ago was having trouble getting it to heal, in fact she was on morphine for about a year due to pain and I believe drug addiction. She was too sick (and depressed) to go to town to get her meds so we'd drive 60 miles to the other side of the big city to get a Dr's note or some paperwork so we could pick up her Morphine at CVS. So anyway, to get back to my point, my husband told her she wasn't going to heal drinking 24 cans of Pepsi a week and smoking didn't help either. So she laid off the Pepsi for a couple weeks and than ask her Dr and he told her the Pepsi didn't hurt her bones at all. Of course, my husband and I don't believe that for a second. We don't go get her medication any longer. Either she's doing it herself or she's getting someone else to do it. They have cut her off the Morphine now though.
 


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