Executions! Sometimes the old ways are the best

Gary Gilmore who admitted to killing I don't know how many people, a real bad dude, chose shooting as his method of execution. He was probably one of the last ones to go out in that manner.

I am furious that so many "beyond a shadow of a doubt killers" are still alive -- one of 'em set free, only to be thrown in the slammer yrs later for an entirely different matter. But why is Scott Petersen still alive wasting our taxpayers $$$, along with countless others. And I don't care how they do it, just do it, as long as there is no doubt whatsoever they committed the crime.
 
I don't understand how execution by firing squad could ever have been considered cruel and unusual - if I had to go that's most likely the scenario I'd choose.

Quick and clean.

Now electric chairs I can understand - sometimes that burger patty just doesn't want to cook all the way through. Reminds me of the scene in The Green Mile where the guard put a purposely-dry sponge on the condemned's head, and the resulting SNAFU.
 

What do they mean, a shortage of drugs for exicutions? What about all that confiscated cocaine & heroin we hear about? Why can't they use that? Being Texan, I try not to get into this subject because we have such a high execution rate.
BUT, my son was murdered back in 1993, and the a**h*** was caught two days later, then he pled guilty for a deal of 25 years. No one asked us how we felt about this, nor did we get whatever satisfaction that might have come from a trial. Even if that were posible. Now I have to write letters, or go see the parole dudes every time he comes up for parole. He will get out in 2008.
 
There is a shortage of drugs for execution because the cocktail used can not be used any more; Europe will not allow their export for use in executions
 
That's alright Ina, Texas executes more people, but it's good to be first in something. I'd like to see Texas bring back old Smoky, the electric chair, abandoned for the European cocktail. Either that or the firing squad. I'm with Rkansaw on that.
 
I gather it is a legal thing; if you give an overdose of, say, profanal, it is outside the license of the drug, so everybody could sue you; criminal negligence for one thing.....and with your lawyers..
 
Ina said:
What do they mean, a shortage of drugs for exicutions? What about all that confiscated cocaine & heroin we hear about? Why can't they use that? Being Texan, I try not to get into this subject because we have such a high execution rate.
BUT, my son was murdered back in 1993, and the a**h*** was caught two days later, then he pled guilty for a deal of 25 years. No one asked us how we felt about this, nor did we get whatever satisfaction that might have come from a trial. Even if that were posible. Now I have to write letters, or go see the parole dudes every time he comes up for parole. He will get out in 2008.
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I am so sorry to hear about your son's murder. My heart goes out to you, I can't even imagine. I know of a couple other families that have to plead w/the parole board to keep their family member's killer behind bars. What a nightmare.

The confiscated cocaine & heroin would be way too much fun for them and I don't think prison officials would considering concocting it into an overdose. Still say shooting works, hanging too.
 
Is that date a typo Ina?
Too many here share your feelings about that situation. No death penalty here at all and too many get far less time than they should. It seems the victims' families pay the far higher price in many cases.

I'm minimalist when it comes to modes of executions. Quick, clean, and get over it. There's just too much psychobabble about humanitarian methods and faux ethical practices going on. It's become a circus, and a lucrative 'industry' for the professionals in Law and Psych. rorting.

This picture was supposed to shock and outrage people but I thought it was just the plain common sense way of dealing with it at the time.

What exactly is so wrong with this picture, given the circumstances? Would it have been more 'humanitarian' to let him rot in a bamboo cage for a few years while the shrinks sorted him, and us, out? Think not.
For some reason as soon as the mode of execution subject comes up this is the image that springs to mind. For those not familiar, a brief explanation beneath.

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Perhaps the most recognised picture from the war is this by Eddie Adams. It shows the South Vietnamese General Nguyen Ngoc Loan executing a Viet Cong officer with a single shot to the head.
Photographs do not tell the whole truth, however. The prisoner had just killed at least eight people, which is what led Gen Loan to carry out the execution.

The image was to change the public perception of the war and haunted Gen Loan until his death.
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I've no idea why it would have haunted the General , maybe I should see a shrink about that?
 
I remember that pic too. I think until I had to go through loosing my son, I wanted to believe that no one was beyound change. I went to see the man who took my son life. The warden let me converse with him for 4 hours. I HAD to know why he killed a man he had never met before. After that, I was part of a group that went inside a man's, and a woman's prison for twice a week for over two years. We worked with murderers, rapist, all types of violent criminals. That was when I changed my mind. I couldn't believe the crap the prisoners expected us to believe, and most of the volunteers did. NOT ME!!!
 
Ina said:
I remember that pic too. I think until I had to go through loosing my son, I wanted to believe that no one was beyound change. I went to see the man who took my son life. The warden let me converse with him for 4 hours. I HAD to know why he killed a man he had never met before. After that, I was part of a group that went inside a man's, and a woman's prison for twice a week for over two years. We worked with murderers, rapist, all types of violent criminals. That was when I changed my mind. I couldn't believe the crap the prisoners expected us to believe, and most of the volunteers did. NOT ME!!!
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What a compelling story, Ina. ((HUGS))
 
Katybug said:
Gary Gilmore who admitted to killing I don't know how many people, a real bad dude, chose shooting as his method of execution. He was probably one of the last ones to go out in that manner.

I am furious that so many "beyond a shadow of a doubt killers" are still alive -- one of 'em set free, only to be thrown in the slammer yrs later for an entirely different matter. But why is Scott Petersen still alive wasting our taxpayers $$$, along with countless others. And I don't care how they do it, just do it, as long as there is no doubt whatsoever they committed the crime.
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Katybug, I think the reason Scott Peterson is still around is because there was no actual proof, witnesses, and very little forensic evidence. He's working for an appeal, and it might surprise me if he doesn't go free...we'll see.

If they're guilty beyond a doubt, the firing squad is just fine with me...too many sitting there living well, while the victims didn't have a chance.
 
Katybug said:
Gary Gilmore who admitted to killing I don't know how many people, a real bad dude, chose shooting as his method of execution. He was probably one of the last ones to go out in that manner.

I am furious that so many "beyond a shadow of a doubt killers" are still alive -- one of 'em set free, only to be thrown in the slammer yrs later for an entirely different matter. But why is Scott Petersen still alive wasting our taxpayers $$$, along with countless others. And I don't care how they do it, just do it, as long as there is no doubt whatsoever they committed the crime.
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We still have the Green River Killer sitting around on our dime. Until he dies of natural causes. :mad:
 

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