First Day of the 114th.. First Veto!

[h=1]More first day antics......

New GOP Congress Fires Shot At Social Security On Day One[/h]http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/social-security-di-house-rules-change

With a little-noticed proposal, Republicans took aim at Social Security on the very first day of the 114th Congress.

The incoming GOP majority approved late Tuesday a new rule that experts say could provoke an unprecedented crisis that conservatives could use as leverage in upcoming debates over entitlement reform.

The largely overlooked change puts a new restriction on the routine transfer of tax revenues between the traditional Social Security retirement trust fund and the Social Security disability program. The transfers, known as reallocation, had historically been routine; the liberal Center for Budget and Policy Priorities said Tuesday that they had been made 11 times. The CBPP added that the disability insurance program "isn't broken," but the program has been strained by demographic trends that the reallocations are intended to address.​

Please don't underestimate the damage they can do the next two years.


 
That's too bad, the Keystone Pipeline is a non-issue, IMO, and he shouldn't be vetoing it. He should choose his battles more carefully, there's more important things to concentrate on like health care, social security, medicare, etc.
 

And right now the enthusiasm for Keystone is on the wane and a veto will easily be sustained. Why the Republicans decided to hang their hat on that dumb issue is beyond me. I'm so opposed to helping the Canadians develop those super dirty oil sands. I use to think of our neighbors to the north as exemplary world citizens but the oil sands are a stain on their reputation.
 
The best part is that the Republicans are far from having a veto proof majority.. so all the vetos will stand.. Like I told the rable rousers and cheer leaders for the GOP "victory" in November...... ((((((yawn)))))) so what?
 
I'm now beginning to see the power the Minority has... The Republicans filibustered just about everything... NOW the favor will be returned.. AND in addition, we have the VETO.. Thankfully, Ole' Mitch will NOT take the silent filibuster away.... because he knows he will probably lose the Majority in 2 years. So now the Dems protect us from the radical Right agenda. NOW if Republicans will only get serious and pass things that will actually benefit the American people, I am sure the left and the President will be happy to work with them.. BUT all the crap about cutting programs and repealing the ACA will be dead in the water.
 
In two years the GOP will have made enough mistakes to ensure big losses in '16. I am glad he will veto the Canadian pipe line through our country. As to control of both houses of congress by GOP, the last time that happened was 1928 and next came the great depression.
 
AZ Jim said:
In two years the GOP will have made enough mistakes to ensure big losses in '16. I am glad he will veto the Canadian pipe line through our country.
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For the life of me... I can't understand why the Republicans chose this as their 1st order of business.. Particularly since Tar Sands is no longer profitable. I heard this morning it costs $80 to drag up one barrel of Tar Sands... and oil is now selling for under $50. All I can figure is that the GOP is so indebted to Big Oil for their win in November, it's a promise they have to keep. Look for more HUGE bills to appease their puppet masters. Prez... order in a new supply of veto pens.
 
kcvet said:
grid lock. so the Gov shuts down. now what
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Guess the GOP will pay BIG time in 2016... After all... They were elected to govern.. If they can't, and the government shuts down they will be blamed and pay the price. Don't worry... they won't shut down the government..... AGAIN.... will they?
 
QuickSilver said:
Guess the GOP will pay BIG time in 2016... After all... They were elected to govern.. If they can't, and the government shuts down they will be blamed and pay the price. Don't worry... they won't shut down the government..... AGAIN.... will they?
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and the dems? why were they elected?? they're paying an even bigger price now. ie the mid term. the country said enough of liberal politics. and they will lose in 16. you want grid lock. my concern is the country. or do we even matter to you??? remember. you pay to
 
kcvet said:
and the dems? why were they elected?? they're paying an even bigger price now. ie the mid term. the country said enough of liberal politics. and they will lose in 16. you want grid lock. my concern is the country. or do we even matter to you??? remember. you pay to
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My, (and the Democrats) concern is for the country... particularly for the welfare of the people.. especially the poor and middle class.. and more particularly Seniors. If the Republicans had their way, all the money would be filtered to the top and the rest of us will have nothing..Corporations would have slave labor and continue to call the shots. That's the kind of America we want? Not me.. We will reign in their radical agenda until we take back control in 2016. THAT is what is best for our country.

You think you will win in 2016? guess again... the GOP took control ONLY because of gerrymandered districts and voter apathy. You DO realize only 35% of the electorate voted in the midterms. The General will bring out the liberal base in droves as it always does. If the GOP proves they cannot govern in the next 2 years they will lose the Senate and perhaps the House. They will be blamed for any and ALL grid-lock.. As we speak, the Presidents approval rating is going up.

In addition, in 2016 the Republicans will have to defend 24 Senate seats, many of them in States won by Obama. The Dems only are defending 10. SOOOO.... the picture is bleak for the GOP in 2016.. enjoy your time in control.. it won't last
 
In reality, the Keystone Pipeline is not that big a deal. The Canadian oil has been moving smoothly to our refineries in Texas for the last couple of years, via existing routes, and rail. The Keystone would shorten the route, and be far safer than moving this oil via rail. This entire issue is far more Political, than anything. Our Texas refineries are about the only ones that can handle this Heavy Crude efficiently. Those in the rest of the world are designed only to process the Light Crude. So, both the US and Canada have a vested interest in working together if this oil is going to be processed. Besides, every barrel that comes from these shores lessens the likelihood that we would ever again be held hostage by the Arabs....remember the OPEC oil embargo of the 1970's??? Like it or not, we depend upon a reliable and affordable source of oil to sustain our economy, and I would far rather see dollars going to Canada, than to Kuwait.
 
Don M. said:
In reality, the Keystone Pipeline is not that big a deal. The Canadian oil has been moving smoothly to our refineries in Texas for the last couple of years, via existing routes, and rail. The Keystone would shorten the route, and be far safer than moving this oil via rail. This entire issue is far more Political, than anything. Our Texas refineries are about the only ones that can handle this Heavy Crude efficiently. Those in the rest of the world are designed only to process the Light Crude. So, both the US and Canada have a vested interest in working together if this oil is going to be processed. Besides, every barrel that comes from these shores lessens the likelihood that we would ever again be held hostage by the Arabs....remember the OPEC oil embargo of the 1970's??? Like it or not, we depend upon a reliable and affordable source of oil to sustain our economy, and I would far rather see dollars going to Canada, than to Kuwait.
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We should be leaving that crap in the ground anyway. It's not going to impact the US... that oil is going to China.. do you like that?
 
QuickSilver said:
My, (and the Democrats) concern is for the country... particularly for the welfare of the people.. especially the poor and middle class.. and more particularly Seniors. If the Republicans had their way, all the money would be filtered to the top and the rest of us will have nothing..Corporations would have slave labor and continue to call the shots. That's the kind of America we want? Not me.. We will reign in their radical agenda until we take back control in 2016. THAT is what is best for our country.

You think you will win in 2016? guess again... the GOP took control ONLY because of gerrymandered districts and voter apathy. You DO realize only 35% of the electorate voted in the midterms. The General will bring out the liberal base in droves as it always does. If the GOP proves they cannot govern in the next 2 years they will lose the Senate and perhaps the House. They will be blamed for any and ALL grid-lock.. As we speak, the Presidents approval rating is going up.

In addition, in 2016 the Republicans will have to defend 24 Senate seats, many of them in States won by Obama. The Dems only are defending 10. SOOOO.... the picture is bleak for the GOP in 2016.. enjoy your time in control.. it won't last
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your from CA all right. fulla BS
 
Social Security....and more specifically the SSDI, is going to be a real hot button issue. SSDI funding will be depleted sometime in early 2016, and how Washington handles that situation could very well effect the other entitlements such as SS and Medicare/Medicaid. SS and Medicare have been a couple of the Only programs that have been fairly well managed by the government, whereas SSDI has been Raped by Fraud.

You don't have to watch TV for very long before you see a commercial from some shady law firm promising to get people signed up for SSDI. "60 Minutes" did an expose on that program about a year ago, and there was no shortage of examples of lawyers "gaming" that program by signing up people whose biggest problem was a "hangnail"....and getting huge legal fees for doing so. Like anything else, it doesn't take many Cheats to screw things up for Everyone.
 
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