Five Year Old Shoots Himself With Father's Gun.

Della

Della

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Della said:
Utah Boy, 5, Dies After Shooting Himself with Gun He Found in Parent's Bedroom: 'Our Hearts are Shattered'

"Our hearts are shattered," say the parents as they plea for sympathy and play the Christian card.

I'd like to shatter them with a long prison sentence, but nope, no charges in Utah for such criminal, deadly negligence.
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If it was "criminal, deadly negligence".

3.5 miles away from my village, decades ago a couple killed their young son, cut him into pieces, put him in the wastebin of a camping site nearby, but told the police that he was kidnapped from the buggy while being in the town of Bamberg. I watched them on TV and was skeptical at the same moment, since their pleas "please give us our son back!" seemed too much exaggerated. I was right in the end.
 
One of my most memorable calls was a six year old shot in the head by another child while playing. This was on the rez…hogan . Guns that are easily accessible are not uncommon in the US with sometimes unintentional consequence. My child lived…had residual seizures. Not all live.
 

In Germany the gun laws are VERY strict. To carry a gun in public is forbidden for 99.9999 per cent of the people. Maybe some politicians could do this. But there was an arms dealer not far away who did not store his personal gun in a gun locker, which is mandatory. His daughter killed herself with his gun because of lovesickness(!). He died only a short time later of cancer.
 
Della said:
Utah Boy, 5, Dies After Shooting Himself with Gun He Found in Parent's Bedroom: 'Our Hearts are Shattered'

"Our hearts are shattered," say the parents as they plea for sympathy and play the Christian card.

I'd like to shatter them with a long prison sentence, but nope, no charges in Utah for such criminal, deadly negligence.
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Here in Canada, such a death would bring multiple criminal charges, starting with Criminal Negligence causing death, failure to properly secure a firearm, failure to properly store a firearm, and if the hand gun was an illegal one, meaning the Parents did not hold a Firearms permit, they would be prosecuted for that, too. Prison time would ensue, if convicted at trial.

In Canada, it is HARD to get a hand gun permit, and the regulations about storage, and transportation are strict. A legal hand gun owner MUST secure the weapon at all times in a gun safe, unloaded, with a trigger lock on it, with the ammunition stored in a second secured lock box in their residence. The ONLY time a legal hand gun can be fired, is at a designated range. The hand gun cannot go anywhere else, except back and forth to the range, then back the permit holder's residence.

No one in Canada is allowed to carry a hand gun in public EXCEPT for on duty Police officers., armored truck guards while on duty, or Canadian Armed Forces members while on duty. In a country with a population of over 40 million people, less then 7,000 Canadians have a license to carry a hand gun as personal defense against dangerous animals. These are people like trappers, exploration crew members, and those who work in isolated parts of the far northern arctic regions. Rifles and shotguns are licensed, and again the laws about their use are strict. You cannot drive around with a firearm in your vehicle during non hunting seasons. Going hunting ? Be licensed, have your tag, and obey the rules about where and when you can hunt. JIMB.
 
Muskrat said:
One of my most memorable calls was a six year old shot in the head by another child while playing. This was on the rez…hogan . Guns that are easily accessible are not uncommon in the US with sometimes unintentional consequence. My child lived…had residual seizures. Not all live.
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Were you a 911 operator?
 
jimintoronto said:
Here in Canada, such a death would bring multiple criminal charges, starting with Criminal Negligence causing death, failure to properly secure a firearm, failure to properly store a firearm, and if the hand gun was an illegal one, meaning the Parents did not hold a Firearms permit, they would be prosecuted for that, too. Prison time would ensue, if convicted at trial.

In Canada, it is HARD to get a hand gun permit, and the regulations about storage, and transportation are strict. A legal hand gun owner MUST secure the weapon at all times in a gun safe, unloaded, with a trigger lock on it, with the ammunition stored in a second secured lock box in their residence. The ONLY time a legal hand gun can be fired, is at a designated range. The hand gun cannot go anywhere else, except back and forth to the range, then back the permit holder's residence.

No one in Canada is allowed to carry a hand gun in public EXCEPT for on duty Police officers., armored truck guards while on duty, or Canadian Armed Forces members while on duty. In a country with a population of over 40 million people, less then 7,000 Canadians have a license to carry a hand gun as personal defense against dangerous animals. These are people like trappers, exploration crew members, and those who work in isolated parts of the far northern arctic regions. Rifles and shotguns are licensed, and again the laws about their use are strict. You cannot drive around with a firearm in your vehicle during non hunting seasons. Going hunting ? Be licensed, have your tag, and obey the rules about where and when you can hunt. JIMB.
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AMEN!
 
I feel sorry for the parents, but had they spent 10 bucks for a trigger lock, this could have been avoided.

I disagree with not charging the parents or at least the one responsible for the weapon. It has been my experience that most judges feel that a parent caused the death of his or her child and they will have to live with that on their conscience for life will be punishment enough. Some prosecutors still prefer to charge the parent responsible for not securing the weapon with child neglect. The child being underage caused a homicide to occur, which could make the parent responsible for the death as well. There’s few judges that will give suspended sentences, but will tack on a fine.

A few states have their own laws that addresses this type of circumstance.
 
@Pepper not a 911 operator. A flight nurse. This was a scene call. So me and my medic had the pleasure of intubating this poor child laying in the sand then keeping him paralyzed, sedated and pain free while we flew like the wind to the closest hospital with neuro. Was my first on scene call that required the intubation of a child. I will never forget. I kept thinking the possibility of us making him worse was certainly there. He was lucky.
 
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