Flexing a little muscle... don't mess with judges

I'm not sure why the cop pulled him over - "Blowing his horn?"
I think the Judge is a Jerk. There could be many reasons unknown to the driver why he was pulled over - brake lights not working, etc.
What's wrong with saying, "Hi, Officer?"

When I was around 25, I saw a big pothole & swerved to avoid it, then swerved again to avoid another one. A cop pulled me over & asked why I was weaving. I explained why I drove that way. He said, "OK, I wanted to make sure you weren't driving impaired." I said, "Thank you; I'm glad you're alert to drunk drivers; they endanger all of us."
 
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Aunt Marg said:
Ohioboy, please weigh-in.
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I've seen that video before. The Judge certainly was flexing his weak muscles. First the Judge should know better then to approach an officer like that after being stopped, unsafe. Second, the Judgy wudgy had no idea why he was pulled over, he was ASSuming. Third, demanding a registration check before being advised for the purpose of the stop is arrogance.

Obviously the plate was not run before hand or the cop would have known the owner's ID. Here in the states an officer can check the ownership of the vehicle by plate identification before a stop (seizure) and our 4th Amendment is not compromised. If the stop was legit, he should have further detained the Judge, or if it was, he may have not wanted the flack?
 
You really want to see Arrogance to top all arrogance? This woman, a NJ Port authority Commissioner was called by her daughter when the car she was riding in was pulled over, detained and subject to tow. The first words were the cop asking her if she was there to give her and party a ride home. She said "No, I'm here as a concerned citizen and, (quote), "friend of the mayor". What the hell, does that have to do with anything? As you see, the cops were not intimidated.

Watch at the end, this is classic, she tells the cop to shut the F... up, priceless. It was nationalized on the news/social media, she resigned the next day. This broad was really on a power trip, big time. Her name is Karen (what a coincidence) Turner.

 
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ohioboy said:
You really want to see Arrogance to top all arrogance? This woman, a NJ Port authority Commissioner was called by her daughter when the car she was riding in was pulled over, detained and subject to tow. The first words were the cop asking her if she was there to give her and party a ride home. She said "No, I'm here as a concerned citizen and, (quote), "friend of the mayor". What the hell, does that have to do with anything? As you see, the cops were not intimidated.

Watch at the end, this is classic, she tells the cop to shut the F... up, priceless. It was nationalized on the news/social media, she resigned the next day. This broad was really on a power trip, big time.

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Oh yes, I remember this video. That there is Miss Karen .... ooops I mean Commissioner Karen. This cop bent over backwards for that idiot but did she appreciate it? Nope. The right thing to do would be to cuff her for obstruction of justice and let her sit in the back of the squad car to see if she cools down, drive off with her to the donut shop and let her sit there simmering (or boiling) in the parking lot while Bubba and Joe have a couple of chocolate-glazed tasties.
 
ohioboy said:
I've seen that video before. The Judge certainly was flexing his weak muscles. First the Judge should know better then to approach an officer like that after being stopped, unsafe. Second, the Judgy wudgy had no idea why he was pulled over, he was ASSuming. Third, demanding a registration check before being advised for the purpose of the stop is arrogance.

Obviously the plate was not run before hand or the cop would have known the owner's ID. Here in the states an officer can check the ownership of the vehicle by plate identification before a stop (seizure) and our 4th Amendment is not compromised. If the stop was legit, he should have further detained the Judge, or if it was, he may have not wanted the flack?
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I heard the judge say "for blowing my horn", and I construed that a couple of different ways, first way, as a response to being pulled over for some trivial infraction (not horn related), or maybe the judge used his horn to hint to the officer who was ahead of him at the time (to get moving... pick it up speed wise) just prior to the officer making what looks to be a left turn.

The part that makes me laugh is how the judge refers to the officer as "mister", and then the icing on the cake is when the officer approaches the judge's car again and tells the judge to "have a good day", but even as many times as I've watched this video I can't contain my laughter when the judge responds, "you bet", after the officer tells him to have a good day. :giggle:

I'm assuming this took place in the United States of North America, because the officer calling dispatch refers to the location as "county".

I had a sneaking suspicion there was a divide between common everyday nobodies vs somebodies like the judge, but not to this extreme.
 
Aunt Marg said:
I heard the judge say "for blowing my horn", and I construed that a couple of different ways ... ....
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He did "blow his horn" rather strongly when he told the copper to run the number plate registration. But perhaps "blowing your own horn" is an out-of-date expression that you young 'uns don't understand?
 
Could be blowing your horn for a purpose not intended, e.g. just to say "hi" to someone is illegal? Yeah he radios in to "County...", but his shirt says "Police", depends where it is, some may have County Police instead of County Sheriff, or could be a small County where a central dispatch connects to municipal calls??
 
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Could be blowing your horn for a purpose not intended, e.g. just to say "hi" to someone is illegal? Yeah he radios in to "County...", but his shirt says "Police", depends where it is, some may have County Police instead of County Sheriff, or could be a small County where a central dispatch connects to municipal calls??
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I was surprised to see the officer get out of his vehicle without a hat.

It's always been my understanding that when police exit their vehicles they have to don a hat.
 
ohioboy said:
I found out where it was, East Lampeter Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. I guess "President Judge" means "Presiding Judge" there. PA has it's state Court called "Common Pleas" just like Ohio. Since it's a Township, it's probably as I said, they contract with the County for dispatch purposes. He was reprimanded, below.

https://www.law.com/thelegalintelli...-during-traffic-stop/?slreturn=20210514180226
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I find comfort in knowing the judge was reprimanded for his behaviour and actions.

Great legwork, Ohio!

Thank you for the additional info on this!
 
Aunt Marg said:
I find comfort in knowing the judge was reprimanded for his behaviour and actions.

Great legwork, Ohio!

Thank you for the additional info on this!
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I keyed in his last name as on the video and a few other words and many links came up. I didn't even think to do that in the 1st place. P.S. Marge, you are welcome. :)
 
Aunt Marg said:
I was surprised to see the officer get out of his vehicle without a hat.

It's always been my understanding that when police exit their vehicles they have to don a hat.
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The Rules of Evidence dictate an officer must be in a marked car and in a distinctive uniform when issuing a ticket, or he is incapable of being a witness to it in court, etc. There have been challenges in Ohio that when an officer was in a marked car, but not wearing a hat, he was not in a distinctive uniform therefore unable to testify as a witness against the defendant. The court's ruled that such a slight variance in uniform does not void the rule of law.


Rule 601 - General Rule of Competency (at D)

(A) General rule. Every person is competent to be a witness except as otherwise provided in these rules. (B) Disqualification of witness in general. A person is disqualified to testify as a witness when the court determines that the person is. (D) An officer, while on duty for the exclusive or main purpose of enforcing traffic laws, arresting or assisting in the arrest of a person charged with a traffic violation punishable as a misdemeanor where the officer at the time of the arrest was not using a properly marked motor vehicle as defined by statute or was not wearing a legally distinctive uniform as defined by statute.
 
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ohioboy said:
..... He was reprimanded .....
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Reprimanded. Oh gosh! How awful! "Please, don't do it again." But no formal disciplinary charges. It is no wonder the police academy attracts more and more corrupt applicants.
 
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