For anti-mask people

I have been trying to get the vaccine but everything is booked here in Houston. I hope to het the Johnson oe but will take what I can get. I will continue to wear a mask before and after I get the vaccine.
 

Irwin said:
The way I understand it, even after being vaccinated, you can still catch covid-19, but you won't have severe symptoms. Some of the vaccine manufacturers are claiming 100% protection from hospitalization from symptoms -- a claim of which I'm highly skeptical. Maybe 99%, but nothing is 100% effective. We shall see, I guess.

So if you're vaccinated, covid-19 is about a dangerous to you as the flu, but you can still spread it, and if you spread it to unvaccinated people, it can put them in the hospital or kill them. Eventually, everybody is going to catch covid-19, but it's only going to kill the unvaccinated.
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"Eventually, everybody is going to catch covid-19, but it's only going to kill the unvaccinated."

What about the people who have had Covid and survived?
What about the asymptomatic people who have had Covid?

You seem to erroneously assume everyone not vaccinated will die.
 
Becky1951 said:
"Eventually, everybody is going to catch covid-19, but it's only going to kill the unvaccinated."

What about the people who have had Covid and survived?
What about the asymptomatic people who have had Covid?

You seem to erroneously assume everyone not vaccinated will die.
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That's not what I said. I said "it's only going to kill the unvaccinated." I didn't say it's going to kill all the unvaccinated.
 

terry123 said:
I have been trying to get the vaccine but everything is booked here in Houston. I hope to het the Johnson oe but will take what I can get. I will continue to wear a mask before and after I get the vaccine.
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Call pharmacies like CVS and Grocery store pharmacies. I found my vaccine at a local, non-chain pharmacy. Filled out their form on-line for an appointment and got in the next day.
 
Nathan said:
I've had Covid, so I have antibodies to protect me until I get vaccinated, which will be this coming Tuesday. I realize this is a bit self serving view, but at least now it no longer angers me when I see the totally self absorbed anti-maskers in public.
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Nathan, I too have the antibodies from having had COVID. Just a word of warning though, you may suffer a moderately severe reaction from the vaccine. We who have the antibodies begin fighting the vaccine from the minute it enters our body. The first shot with me, lasted for 4 days and the 2nd lasted 2 days. Not as bad as the COVID itself, but a tad uncomfortable. Good luck.
 
So, if someone doesn't want to get vaccinated, don't, but don't go on and on about it. That's that person's private business. Let it go. So what? I don't care if an individual doesn't get the vaccine, just follow the guidelines in public please. Simple enough. There is so much discussion on this subject which is non productive.
 
There are some pretty big assumptions in this thread, perhaps the largest being that the vaccine will stop the spread of covid. To those who believe that, I would ask if the flu vaccines of the past stopped the spread of flu or even made a dent in it. I do understand that will be difficult to answer since CDC numbers contain a lot of estimates.
 
That would be brutal if it was really for not wearing a mask, but if the bank told her to leave, then that's what she should have done. By refusing she is now trespassing and that's why she was arrested; for trespassing, not for going mask-less. I live in a rural area and go into many small businesses w/o a mask and have no problem. When I go to Walmart or some place like the bank, then wearing the mask is one of those things I have to do.
 
What ignorant, selfish/self centered/ME first people do not seem to comprehend is that getting the shot only reduces the chances of getting infected...its not a sure thing or 100% protection, and neither is wearing a mask 100% effective protection for either yourself or others..

If YOU get infected you can infect others (its how pandemics work/spread ..DUH!)...

I wear a mask (the best that I can get) to, primarily, reduce the odds of getting infected from YOUR virus/germs.. and secondarily to help reduce the likelihood of infecting others (if I should become infected by YOUR virus/germs).

I will get the vaccination to further reduce the odds of getting infected by YOUR virus/germs... and to reduce the chances of infecting others
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Hopefully; when enough of us get the vaccinated the so called heard immunity will apply and the virus will cease to be a wide spread issue..

People who are not a part of the solution are a part of the PROBLEM and deserve public shaming, IMO.

Enjoy!
 
digifoss said:
That would be brutal if it was really for not wearing a mask, but if the bank told her to leave, then that's what she should have done. By refusing she is now trespassing and that's why she was arrested; for trespassing, not for going mask-less. I live in a rural area and go into many small businesses w/o a mask and have no problem. When I go to Walmart or some place like the bank, then wearing the mask is one of those things I have to do.
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She also resisted arrest. I guess she could plead insanity, because she's frickin' crazy. :ROFLMAO:
 
One study I saw suggested that masks were of little to no value. The average no. of deaths per thousand in the ten states that had the earliest mask mandate was 13.3/K. The average death rate in the 10 states with no mask mandate was 12.6/K. You could infer that masks were more of a problem than a solution but the margin of error might make it a toss up. Somebody should deep dive into real world data and not rely on stupid aerosol tests.
 
JonDouglas said:
One study I saw suggested that masks were of little to no value. The average no. of deaths per thousand in the ten states that had the earliest mask mandate was 13.3/K. The average death rate in the 10 states with no mask mandate was 12.6/K. You could infer that masks were more of a problem than a solution but the margin of error might make it a toss up. Somebody should deep dive into real world data and not rely on stupid aerosol tests.
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Who conducted this study? I would be interested in reading it. I wonder if people wore better masks, such as N-95 or KN-95 if this would change the outcome. Those are the masks I wear and have since last summer. Also, I do see people pull their masks down in places and if they have Covid, they could be spreading it but think they are wearing a mask.
 
Jeweltea said:
Who conducted this study? I would be interested in reading it. I wonder if people wore better masks, such as N-95 or KN-95 if this would change the outcome. Those are the masks I wear and have since last summer. Also, I do see people pull their masks down in places and if they have Covid, they could be spreading it but think they are wearing a mask.
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Will send PM. Don't want to stir up either of the two mask/no mask religions.

Edit Update: Link to data and study sent.
 
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JonDouglas said:
One study I saw suggested that masks were of little to no value. The average no. of deaths per thousand in the ten states that had the earliest mask mandate was 13.3/K. The average death rate in the 10 states with no mask mandate was 12.6/K. You could infer that masks were more of a problem than a solution but the margin of error might make it a toss up. Somebody should deep dive into real world data and not rely on stupid aerosol tests.
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Very true Jon ,
They are useless, but we still carry on wearing them.....

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