For The Love Of Dogs

MarkD said:
So I wonder what your male border weighs. My female McNab is 36 lbs and her dad was 45 lbs. First herder I’ve had that was part border. Smart, affectionate, agile and super trainable but also a bit domineering. She is becoming reliable around bikes and runners but bouncy, hollering kids will be rounded up unless I’m vigilant. Is that behavior typical for borders as well? She is 1.5 years and socialization was stunted by the pandemic.
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He was big, maybe about 70 lbs. (I dunno, I never weighed him.) In his ancestry he had Wiston Cap, (who produced zillions of offspring), and a few other Border 'stars'.

Kids: There have been reports of bored Borders taking themselves to playgrounds/schools and attempting to round up small children. The behavior is instinctive, in just about every Border Collie book they warn about not getting one unless you're going to keep them busy doing something.

(When we picked him up, as a pup, on a small island off the Sunshine Coast in B.C., there were maybe 8 pups and the mother wanted to be a part of the selection process. Finally the owner told her to go 'watch the sheep' - she went immediately to an adjacent paddock, jumped the fence, and for the rest of our visit lay down and monitored the flock. She had an assignment, "Don't bother me, I'm working", she was happy.)
 

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Nemo2 said:
He was big, maybe about 70 lbs. (I dunno, I never weighed him.) In his ancestry he had Wiston Cap, (who produced zillions of offspring), and a few other Border 'stars'.

Kids: There have been reports of bored Borders taking themselves to playgrounds/schools and attempting to round up small children. The behavior is instinctive, in just about every Border Collie book they warn about not getting one unless you're going to keep them busy doing something.

(When we picked him up, as a pup, on a small island off the Sunshine Coast in B.C., there were maybe 8 pups and the mother wanted to be a part of the selection process. Finally the owner told her to go 'watch the sheep' - she went immediately to an adjacent paddock, jumped the fence, and for the rest of our visit lay down and monitored the flock. She had an assignment, "Don't bother me, I'm working", she was happy.)
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i do feel bad about not having stock for my two. They do think fetching the ball is a serious job fortunately.
 

Becky1951 said:
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I wonder who else has experienced their female dogs as being more prone to ‘go nuclear’. I’ve only had two male dogs but both were very good at and disposed to deflect aggression from other dogs. But nearly all my females have gad lines beyond which someone might need a body bag.

When I saw this funny meme my first thought was my little 35 pound McNab girl might be enough to make the math work out the same all by herself. She doesn’t let dogs push her around. They might be be her but few can be so fierce when riled.
 
Nemo2 said:
As the old saying goes: "It's not the dog in the fight, it's the fight in the dog."
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Indeed. You know another interesting thing is the way dogs develop customs without deliberate training. Ember always walks downstairs apace with me. Can't recall asking for that but she always does. My 7 year old AussieXheeler always goes down fast and waits by the door. But she isn't tempted to join him in that. On the other hand, going upstairs her attention is on him and she doesn't let him pass her up. Sometimes she'll nip him with those 1.5 year old needles just to make sure he knows who is in charge now. He used to go up the stairs about as fast as he goes down. Now he tends to keep me between them as a shield I guess. The other thing about dogs is there never seems to be any resentment about the pecking order. It just is what it is.
 
MarkD said:
The other thing about dogs is there never seems to be any resentment about the pecking order. It just is what it is.
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I've heard that, if you don't establish yourself as the 'pack leader', the dog might start thinking "I'm looking around but I don't see anyone in charge...oh geez, maybe it's me".......and if that happens your work's really cut out to set things straight. :oops:
 
Is this you @dobielvr ?
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Running Boards: Traveling in Cars With Your Dogs in the 1930's.

Back in the day, if you didn’t want your dog riding inside your car, it could ride “safely” on a running board attached to the car.

When we debate the history of automobiles in America and around the world, we rarely hear anyone discussing the history of man’s best friend traveling alongside him. Actually, there weren’t many that put dogs in the front seat, which was probably the safest spot for their furry friends.

Much like the pooch in these pictures below, transport systems in early vehicles involved the running board. Some were simple running board-based boxes and shields while others, such as the "Bird Dog Palace", were sturdy external steel enclosures. They came in several sizes and included a barred door that could be released without the driver leaving his seat and an oilcloth cover that could be unrolled and buttoned into place if the weather got bad.




The most terrifying and dangerous pet carrier must have been the "Dog Sack", an actual canvas sack that (thankfully) had a head hole and was hooked and clamped to the side of the car. 36



Bella✌️
 
MarkD said:
Was the big guy a guy while the little white devil was female by any chance? There is probably a reason we call them what bitches.

edited to extend condolences for your loss, one which I’m sure big guy will feel as well.
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Actually when we got Noki we had 3 female little white devils 😈. Max joined the crowd and never tried to boss Noki. Someone gave him to us as a puppy and he liked to get on Noki’s back and ride him. Noki was very patient with him.
 
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