For the vaccine injured or those with loved ones injured by it - a question
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againstthegrain
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The US government acknowledged there are vaccine injuries and set up a system to submit claims for compensation.
Compensation for covid vaccine injury
Compensation for covid vaccine injury
ElCastor
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Vaccine injuries are rare and any very rare injuries are likely far less dangerous than the disease they prevent. Just got an updated Tdap vaccine and as always am doing just fine. (-8
Alligatorob
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Interesting, didn't know that existed. Looks like it predated Covid and includes lots of non-Covid injuries.
againstthegrain
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OP, have you ever once thought about the scale of deaths and serious illness prevented or minimized by the vaccines and tried to balance that w the very few that were injured by it?
And these covid posts are strange in that they rehash, time and again, your decision to skip the vax. Are you looking for reassurance that you've made the correct choice or trying to suggest those who've taken the vax made the wrong choice?
This thread and the presumably deleted thread from a few days ago had easily verifiable misinformation in them so it appears that you're you're just flinging chit against the wall in a attempt to rationalize your anti-vax thought train.
Frankly I could give a rip what you personally do, but I do feel others may be swayed by you so I'm trying to add some balance and a few facts to these threads which you've never provided to back up your "feelings" so people can judge for themselves.
Three people that probably wished every day they were able to get vaxxed.
Anecdotes of 3 long covid patients from the NYT
And these covid posts are strange in that they rehash, time and again, your decision to skip the vax. Are you looking for reassurance that you've made the correct choice or trying to suggest those who've taken the vax made the wrong choice?
This thread and the presumably deleted thread from a few days ago had easily verifiable misinformation in them so it appears that you're you're just flinging chit against the wall in a attempt to rationalize your anti-vax thought train.
Frankly I could give a rip what you personally do, but I do feel others may be swayed by you so I'm trying to add some balance and a few facts to these threads which you've never provided to back up your "feelings" so people can judge for themselves.
Three people that probably wished every day they were able to get vaxxed.
Anecdotes of 3 long covid patients from the NYT
A process called Informed consent in which patients are given important information, including possible risks and benefits, about a medical procedure or treatment, genetic testing, or a clinical trial. This is to help them decide if they want to be treated, tested, or take part in the trial.
Maddie was 12 years old when she was in the trials which was her parent choice to let her. They knew when they entered her in the trial, there was a chance she could have problems, so there is no suing or complaining. That's why they are called medical trials.
Maddie was 12 years old when she was in the trials which was her parent choice to let her. They knew when they entered her in the trial, there was a chance she could have problems, so there is no suing or complaining. That's why they are called medical trials.
Don M.
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No vaccine or prescription drug is 100% safe for everyone....just listen to all the "disclaimers" on the TV drug ads. However, these Covid vaccines have shown to be effective for the vast majority of people, and have probably saved millions of lives. It's amazing, IMO, that the drug companies were able to come up with a solution so quickly. After all, it took decades to find a way to stop the epidemics of things like Smallpox and Polio.
ElCastor
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It was amazing, but understandably so. MRNA is a new technique that speeds creation of molecules in a lab, molecules that can be an essential component of a vaccine. This process was aided by money from Trump’s Operation Warp Speed.
againstthegrain
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ElCastor
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True, but …
“Thanks to decades of research and innovation, mRNA vaccine technology was ready. With COVID, this technology got its moment and has proven to be extremely safe and effective. Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine is the first mRNA product to achieve full FDA approval in the U.S.”
“Already, vaccine manufacturers are developing mRNA vaccines to protect against other respiratory viruses such as the flu. Moderna is exploring applications of the technology to protect against HIV. It’s a new era for vaccine technology and production, and a testament to scientific progress and decades of research.”
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/the-long-history-of-mrna-vaccines
fuzzybuddy
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Vaccines are a law of numbers. If a vaccine eliminates a deadly, debilitating disease for millions, but a few thousand may suffer catastrophic side effects, do you deny the health of millions for the suffering of a tiny percentage? Maybe someday we will develop advanced procedures to make vaccines safe for all. But we have to deal with what we have, now. Of course, we must care for those who had side effects to the best of our ability.
The "vaccine injured?" Oh please, give me a break! 
You can use that term against virtually every medication, vaccine, or medical procedure on earth. There are always some bad reactions, side effects, allergies, etc. Even occasional medical incompetence. But looking at the big picture, as Fuzzy just said, do we worry about saving millions of lives, or the reactions of the few who are claiming damages?
I personally do not know or have ever heard of anyone getting serious reactions to this vaccine or its boosters. And everyone I know has had the shots. Our world is a lot safer from this disease as a result.
You can use that term against virtually every medication, vaccine, or medical procedure on earth. There are always some bad reactions, side effects, allergies, etc. Even occasional medical incompetence. But looking at the big picture, as Fuzzy just said, do we worry about saving millions of lives, or the reactions of the few who are claiming damages?
I personally do not know or have ever heard of anyone getting serious reactions to this vaccine or its boosters. And everyone I know has had the shots. Our world is a lot safer from this disease as a result.
boliverchadsworth
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as with the jfk assination and the many others known and unknown it will take many years for the truth to come out and maybe only partially they are still covering that up --ufo's etc on and on.... more and more seems like a dry run and with some vax objectives ....lots of folks, all older seem to have develped myocarditis and blood clots that never had em before ..how about you? know of anyone personally?? .....some may have and not know it yet....and some I suppose have escaped it. maybe!
My cousin died of a blood clot in the brain. His wife was big on vaxxes and boosters and he sickened and died after a second booster but he was over ninety so he might have died anyway? My friend's wife died of a blood clot in her brain stem in 2021. They were both vaxxed but there were no boosters then. Those came later. That's all.
ElCastor
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Here is something you might not want to read ….
“Debunking COVID-19 myths”
https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem....eatured-topic/covid-19-vaccine-myths-debunkedA new booster will be out soon. My wife and I wii be one of the first in line.