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Another email that needs recycling.

What really died at Auschwitz ?


Here's an interesting viewpoint:


The following is a copy of an article written by Spanish writer Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez and published in a Spanish newspaper on Jan. 15 2011.


It doesn't take much imagination to extrapolate the message to the rest of Europe - and possibly to the rest of the world.


THIS WAS IN A SPANISH NEWSPAPER: "EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ " By Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez


"I walked down the street in Barcelona and suddenly discovered a terrible truth - Europe died in Auschwitz ... We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.


The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world. These are the people we burned.


And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims , who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty, due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.


They have blown up our trains and turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime. Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.


And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition. We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs.


What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe .


A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves. Recently, the UK debated whether to remove The Holocaust from its school curriculum because it 'offends' the Muslim population which claims it never occurred. It is not removed as yet. However, this is a frightening portent of the fear that is gripping the world and how easily each country is giving in to it.


It is now more than sixty years after the Second World War in Europe ended. This e-mail is being sent as a memorial chain, in memory of the six million Jews, twenty million Russians, ten million Christians, and nineteen-hundred Catholic priests who were 'murdered, raped, burned, starved, beaten, experimented on and humiliated.' Now, more than ever, with Iran , among others, claiming the Holocaust to be 'a myth,' it is imperative to make sure the world never forgets.


This e-mail is intended to reach 400 million people. Be a link in the memorial chain and help distribute this around the world.


How many years will it be before the attack on the 'World Trade Centre' 'NEVER HAPPENEDbecause it offends some Muslim in the United States ? If our Judeo-Christian heritage is offensive to Muslims, they should pack up and move to Iran , Iraq or some other Muslim country.
 

I'm sorry Falcon but I lived in Spain right up until a couple of years ago and if that had been printed in any Spanish newspaper you can bet we'd have all known about it. Further I still read Spanish newspapers even though I'm back living in the UK..but I still have a home in Spain and my family live there so remain largely interested in still keeping up with the latest occurrences.

Further , if you do a google search for an author by that name you won't find one (apart from this one attributed to this supposed article)also I know the Spanish and this isn't the way they would write ..it's reads more like something written in English/American and transcribed as supposedly written by a Spaniard and translated back to english


One last thing.. Spain unlike the Uk unfortunately ( I don't know about the USA) does not offer free housing to immigrants...in Spain in a nutshell if you're a foreigner you work and you pay rent or you buy a property or you don't have a home..you certainly don't get given one for free...

So, in essence I doubt the authenticity of this article...but that's not to say I don't agree with the content !!
 
I understand what you're saying Holly. As I mentioned on the subject line, I was forwarding it. I didn't check the source.

As you mentioned, it's the content which is the message. On THAT, I can agree.
 

Some thought should be given to the facts that these were slave labour camps to run high tech, for those days, manufacturing steel mills and who made the money off of that. What happened to all the gold and other riches stolen from them? And who was payed back for financing the war machine to Stop the Trotsky. Also ask who was in charge of security at the twin towers. And why the wallets of the 11 "Muslims" were so easily found intact. The FBI has this information ask why it hasn't been released.
 
From what I see, it's just an anti-Muslim hate email that has been circulating since 2004, correct me if I'm wrong. http://njjewishnews.com/article/3091/when-unwanted-e-mails-come-between-friends#.VO_I2vnF-CY


When unwanted e-mails come between friends





Scotch Plains writer Jackie Lieberman asked her rabbi how to respond to an e-mail warning of the dangers posed by Muslims.
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by Elaine Durbach
NJJN Staff Writer
January 12, 2011

To respond or not to respond — that was the dilemma Jackie Lieberman faced when she received an e-mail recently with a long tirade against Muslims.

Initially, Lieberman told NJ Jewish News, she thought the e-mail was about anti-Semitism in Europe, this time suggesting that Muslims are now facing the kind of prejudice long aimed at Jews. But the Scotch Plains writer and mother of two was horrified when she realized this wasn’t a warning about bigotry; it was actually promoting it.

Other members of her congregation, Temple Sholom in Scotch Plains/Fanwood, also reported receiving the e-mail, a chain letter that has been bouncing around the Internet since at least 2004.

The e-mail was forwarded by a close relative of Lieberman’s, “someone older than me whom I really respect,” she said. It opened with the words: “If this offends your political views, simply delete and move along. Unless you’re completely blind, you will see this is happening in America right now.”

It goes on to quote an article, attributed to “Spanish writer Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez,” which says that six million Jews, “the truly chosen,” were killed in Europe and were replaced by 20 million Muslims “who have blown up our trains and turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime.”

It then lists terrorist acts by Muslims — though none by Christians or Jews — and compares the number of Jews and Muslims who have won Nobel prizes. It ends with the words: “This e-mail is intended to reach 400 million people. Be a link in the memorial chain and help distribute this around the world.”

The e-mail has been cited in hundreds of blogs over the past six years, sometimes approvingly, sometimes not; none provides an original source for the article by “Rodrigez.” The earliest source cited is the Spanish-language website “Gentiuno,” where the article’s author is named Sebastián Vivar Rodríguez, who, it appears, has written only this one article.

Lieberman said, “As I read on, I realized that the author (or authors) agreed with the essay at the beginning — that they think Muslims are ruining Europe and that they are trying to ruin America, too.

It just made me sick, knowing that this person I care about sent this to me and all of their friends to ‘warn’ us, and possibly expected me to agree with it. I found it especially upsetting that this e-mail was going around among Jews.”

Fellow congregant Leslie Klieger of Fanwood said she also received e-mails like this a few times, generally from older relatives or friends of her mother.
“I always reply that I find the e-mails offensive and ask them not to send them to me in the future,” she said.

Lieberman said, “I didn’t want to pretend that I had never received it, but I didn’t know how to respond.”
She turned for advice to her rabbi at Temple Sholom, Rabbi Joel Abraham.

Abraham told NJJN he believes such e-mails are sent out of “fear, quite simply, some of it reasonable, some of it excessive.” Asked whether he thinks recipients should respond, he said, “Absolutely — and even if not, we are commanded not to stand idly by while our neighbor bleeds — especially if the stones that are thrown to cause the bleeding come from our own friends and family.”

Abraham suggested two approaches as ways one might “gently convey what one feels about people spreading such dangerous and hateful communication,” pointing out that not all Muslims are bad and asking to be left out of such mailings, or going into more detail by listing some achievements by Muslims and citing the dangers of judging any group by the behavior of its fanatical members.

Lieberman said, “I ended up sending them the second response he recommended, because I figure that maybe if we point out the flaws in the arguments the e-mail presents, maybe I can change that person’s mind. But I’m not sure they even read it. They never brought it up again, and neither have I.”

Etzion Neuer, executive director of the Anti-Defamation League’s New Jersey region, said that e-mails of this kind have increased significantly since 9/11. Part of the problem, he said, was that the Internet makes it so easy to pass on such material with no “editorial discrimination.”

“It’s perfectly appropriate for Jews to express pride about our achievements, but not at the expense of others,” he said. As for the warnings about the impact of Muslim immigration, Neuer added, “There’s nothing wrong with a discussion about legitimate concerns, so long as it’s conducted in a way that is balanced and considered.”

He said recipients could simply delete those they find offensive, or — to discourage the sender from doing it again — he suggested they “send a polite note explaining why you find such e-mails offensive.”


‘Please don’t forward’

Rabbi Joel Abraham provided two possible responses to senders of anti-Islamic e-mails. The first just “lets them know your feelings”:
“I am uncomfortable with the e-mail you sent me. Of course, the Holocaust was bad, but it seems insensitive to equate the Holocaust with the impact of Muslims in Europe today. I do not think all Muslims are bad. They have made great contributions to civilization as well. Please don’t forward me any more e-mail with such hate.”

The second is longer, “as an entry into the argument”:
“Too bad they didn’t give out Nobel Prizes when Europe was in the Dark Ages. After all, the only reason you can read this message on a computer, which uses binary language…is that the Muslims invented the zero.

And the only reason there is a Nobel Prize is that Europe was able to re-emerge from the Dark Ages because the Muslims had not only preserved but extended the knowledge and philosophy of the Greeks….

“It is dangerous to judge a group by its fanatics. We have them. Christians have them. Even Hindus and Buddhists have them. Most Muslims are NOT terrorists. There is some great work being done with Jews and Muslims….”



 
OK Seabreeze. I didn't realize it was trash.....I merely forwarded from something I got from a friend.

If you think I forward TRASH, I'll be VERY careful about entering ANYTHING on this forum........or else look for another forum where I'm not
taken to task my a moderator.
 
I didn't mean to offend you Falcon, but you must admit that some of the copy and paste forwarded emails you've posted have not had much truth to them, and for that I call them trash. I'm posting as a member, if there was a moderation issue, you would be contacted privately. Here's more on that email which has been circulating, and changing over the years. http://www.nuevodigital.com/nuevodi...delincuencia_terrorismo_periodista_hoax_corr/


The "All European Life Died in Auschwitz" is another of the 'hoax' running for years on the Internet in relation to Muslims and serve as a safety valve for the frustrated desire for large sections of the Western population not reflected in the mainstream media's views that make budge free and no 'moderate' Internet, ie censored by the 'editors' forums in the media . Certainly, if there had been or still exist some Sebastián Rodríguez Villar and had written something, he would have been fired for their environment. It has happened.And happen again.
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I've seen it several times in the past. It is trash but I doubt Falcon knew it. However, SB IS a member and as such doesn't she have the right to have opinions? I have never seen her try to offend anyone but this is the second time I've seen the "mod" thing thrown into the exchange. Let's all grasp one anothers hands and sing Kumbya. *blowing on my pitch pipe....1 and 2 and.......
 
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