Freak Show

down2earth

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In 19th century America, gawking at people who were born with deformities was not only socially acceptable — it was considered family entertainment.

P.T. Barnum made millions by capitalizing on this. His “freakshows” brought together an amalgam of people considered to be curiosities — bearded ladies, tattooed men, the severely disfigured, and the abnormally short and tall — many of whom were unwillingly forced into the industry as young children. Horrific, very sad.

Fortunately, the most popular freak show today is free and the stars are not forced. It's called "THE NEWS".
 

In 19th century America, gawking at people who were born with deformities was not only socially acceptable — it was considered family entertainment.

P.T. Barnum made millions by capitalizing on this. His “freakshows” brought together an amalgam of people considered to be curiosities — bearded ladies, tattooed men, the severely disfigured, and the abnormally short and tall — many of whom were unwillingly forced into the industry as young children. Horrific, very sad.

Fortunately, the most popular freak show today is free and the stars are not forced. It's called "THE NEWS".
I know your point is about how crazy the world has gotten, but your knowledge of and sympathy for those sideshow 'freaks' suggests you'd appreciate the story of how i knew some of them.

Many of those sideshow performers wintered in a small town in Florida. Some in houses, some in The Giant's Camp, a trailer park owned by a Mr. Tremayne, a giant and his wife Ginny, who was billed as the half woman because she had almost no legs. Circus dwarves and the 'Mule faced lady' lived there too.

They were the first people other than hospital staff and my parents to hold me, coo over me. In 1946 my parents were the only 'normals' there. Mom was pregnant with me. We lived there till i was about a year old then moved to Ruskin.

But my parents had gotten on well with those folks, Dad considered Mr. Tremayne a friend and Mom said Grace McDaniels (the Mule faced lady) was the sweetest person she'd ever known, so we visited.them when they were there until Mom and i left Florida in 1956. And i have good memories of them.

Like any other demographic, it included some not so nice people, but i never knew those personally, rather i learned of them from documentaries and news later in life. I've long thought my early interactions with the people at The Giant's Camp laid the foundation for my certainty that a soul is a soul regardless of external form.
 

I know your point is about how crazy the world has gotten, but your knowledge of and sympathy for those sideshow 'freaks' suggests you'd appreciate the story of how i knew some of them.

Many of those sideshow performers wintered in a small town in Florida. Some in houses, some in The Giant's Camp, a trailer park owned by a Mr. Tremayne, a giant and his wife Ginny, who was billed as the half woman because she had almost no legs. Circus dwarves and the 'Mule faced lady' lived there too.

They were the first people other than hospital staff and my parents to hold me, coo over me. In 1946 my parents were the only 'normals' there. Mom was pregnant with me. We lived there till i was about a year old then moved to Ruskin.

But my parents had gotten on well with those folks, Dad considered Mr. Tremayne a friend and Mom said Grace McDaniels (the Mule faced lady) was the sweetest person she'd ever known, so we visited.them when they were there until Mom and i left Florida in 1956. And i have good memories of them.

Like any other demographic, it included some not so nice people, but i never knew those personally, rather i learned of them from documentaries and news later in life. I've long thought my early interactions with the people at The Giant's Camp laid the foundation for my certainty that a soul is a soul regardless of external form.
Thanks for sharing that, very kind of you to give such insight to these folks. 🧡
 
That reminds me of the infamous 1932 movie called Freaks. It was the hardest film to watch. There were people who just had half of a body. One had no arms or legs.
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Some of them did acrobatics so they didn't have to just sit and be stared at, and they found ways to cope with the basics of daily living.

The Tremaynes had a cafe on site and sold a few variety store type items. I have a vivid memory of watching Ginny Tremayne who had 6-8 inch stumps where legs should have been, climb swiftly up a floor to ceiling shelving unit to get an item from top shelf for a customer. (her husband, who could have reached it easily, was outside talking to Dad).

Knowing them probably sparked my interest in acrobatics, which Dad encouraged. I can remember thinking when quite small that if they could do what they could in spite of their physical issues, that i should be able to learn acrobatics, tightrope walking and trapeze work.
 
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In 19th century America, gawking at people who were born with deformities was not only socially acceptable — it was considered family entertainment.
People using other people who have unusual deformities or who are strikingly unique as entertainment, sadly still happens to this day.
Humans aren’t as civilized as we’d like to think. They still have pack animal mentality and will attack those who don’t fit in. I don’t believe this will ever change. It’s a pathetic trait of humanity.
 
People using other people who have unusual deformities or who are strikingly unique as entertainment, sadly still happens to this day.
Humans aren’t as civilized as we’d like to think. They still have pack animal mentality and will attack those who don’t fit in. I don’t believe this will ever change. It’s a pathetic trait of humanity.
The unacceptable behavior itself does not just hurt the objects of prejudice, but whether they realize it or not it hurts them--they are feeding their souls a steady diet of fear, anger, bigotry and often violent thoughts and actions--in the long run it will hurt them. Also, i suspect a lot of very public vitriol we see is fueled by fear that things are changing--that these 'ugly' behaviors they consider normal are becoming unacceptable.

While i agree there are still a lot of humans who attack (often fear and so hate) those who are different, i don't believe this has to continue as an accepted human trait. When enough people who know better, do better and raise their kids to do better the human race could out grow this behavior. Keep in mind children often learn more from how we behave than just what we say, especially if the two don't match up well. So modeling inclusive behaviors matters.

For me all kinds of inclusivity is important, demographic, physical appearance, choice of faith or choosing not to have a religion, being neuro-divergent, mentally challenged or mentally ill. Blanket stigmas on 'groups/classes' of people are not acceptable, tho we are all free to choose who we personally will associate with, spend time/energy engaging in social interactions with and we all have a right to defend ourselves and loved ones from attacks.

As early as the late 1940's my parents were teaching us that 'people are people'. That one should only form opinions about others based on that individual's words and actions (paying attention to the consistency between what they say and what they do as well). We raised ours that way too--it took with some of the 'Grands' better than others. i feel blessed it took well with all 3 of mine, even the son that leans toward conservative attitudes.

Less than a hundred years ago doctors were still recommending that both children with Down's Syndrome and on the Autism Spectrum be institutionalized. Temple Grandin is 1 yr and 1 wk younger than me and i am so grateful her mother did not follow that advice. She's contributed so much, not just to the field she's degreed in but toward a better understanding of Autism Spectrum.

Doctors also sometime in the 50s or 60s i think, recommended S.I. Hayakawa (Professor, author one time President Emeritus of Berkley University and a U.S. Senator) institutionalize his son who had Down's Syndrome. He didn't. His other two children as young adults talked to a magazine (can't remember which read article so long ago) about how glad they were to have their brother with them, that they learned from the experience and felt enriched by it.

My point is we don't all learn at the same rate especially when it comes to how we deal with life and other people. But as a species we do make psychological-social progress from one generation to the next. Sometimes it feels way too slow to those of us who've been inclusive most all of our lives, but it also can feel too fast that aren't. If we don't destroy ourselves one way or the other --- we could improve as species.

On side note i could make an argument for trusting one's instincts over the 'experts' based on the paradigm changes on what should be done with people neurologically 'different' since the middle of the last century. It's one of the reasons i don't give 'scientists' a pass on their mistakes--because some of them do damage to human beings already vulnerable. There's really not a whole lot of difference between the paradigms of social sciences and religious dogma, the main one being that when individuals consistently challenge the paradigms---science, often in attempt to prove their critics wrong, do more research, discover their errors and DO change faster than religions do.
 
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That reminds me of the infamous 1932 movie called Freaks. It was the hardest film to watch. There were people who just had half of a body. One had no arms or legs.
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One of my sons was in a film class about 20 years ago. The teacher said something about "Freaks" and my son muttered, "One of us, one of us." The professor brightened and said, "Ahhh... Did your dad introduce you to that movie?"

Son replied, "Nope. My mom did!"

I love that movie. Also loved circus freak sideshows. They always fascinated me rather than creeping me out and I found the performers kind, forthcoming and willing/eager to interact. @feywon 's experience with these folks sure rings true.
 
And the movie "Big Fish."

All 3 are really great movies.
"Big Fish" like "Second Hand Lions", explores the difficulty of ferreting truth out of adventuresome memories shared. They also suggest that sometimes there is an emotional truth even if some of the details have been 'embellished'.

In both cases the younger person, who suspected the oldster had just been spinning stories, discovers there was actually a good bit of truth in the tales they dismissed as pure fiction.
 
"Big Fish" like "Second Hand Lions", explores the difficulty of ferreting truth out of adventuresome memories shared. They also suggest that sometimes there is an emotional truth even if some of the details have been 'embellished'.

In both cases the younger person, who suspected the oldster had just been spinning stories, discovers there was actually a good bit of truth in the tales they dismissed as pure fiction.
I've never seen Big Fish nor Second Hand Lions. Are they any good?
 
i enjoyed them enough to buy DVD's because who knew the wonder of streaming channels were coming? Tho i like having DVDs of favorite movies because usually there are special features where writers, directors and actors may talk about their feelings about the film and their artistic 'processes' -- it interests me.

i'd suggest looking them up on IMDb for synopsis of plot, actors, Might even be able to view a trailer for them.
 
The unacceptable behavior itself does not just hurt the objects of prejudice, but whether they realize it or not it hurts them--they are feeding their souls a steady diet of fear, anger, bigotry and often violent thoughts and actions--in the long run it will hurt them. Also, i suspect a lot of very public vitriol we see is fueled by fear that things are changing--that these 'ugly' behaviors they consider normal are becoming unacceptable.

While i agree there are still a lot of humans who attack (often fear and so hate) those who are different, i don't believe this has to continue as an accepted human trait. When enough people who know better, do better and raise their kids to do better the human race could out grow this behavior. Keep in mind children often learn more from how we behave than just what we say, especially if the two don't match up well. So modeling inclusive behaviors matters.

For me all kinds of inclusivity is important, demographic, physical appearance, choice of faith or choosing not to have a religion, being neuro-divergent, mentally challenged or mentally ill. Blanket stigmas on 'groups/classes' of people are not acceptable, tho we are all free to choose who we personally will associate with, spend time/energy engaging in social interactions with and we all have a right to defend ourselves and loved ones from attacks.

As early as the late 1940's my parents were teaching us that 'people are people'. That one should only form opinions about others based on that individual's words and actions (paying attention to the consistency between what they say and what they do as well). We raised ours that way too--it took with some of the 'Grands' better than others. i feel blessed it took well with all 3 of mine, even the son that leans toward conservative attitudes.

Less than a hundred years ago doctors were still recommending that both children with Down's Syndrome and on the Autism Spectrum be institutionalized. Temple Grandin is 1 yr and 1 wk younger than me and i am so grateful her mother did not follow that advice. She's contributed so much, not just to the field she's degreed in but toward a better understanding of Autism Spectrum.

Doctors also sometime in the 50s or 60s i think, recommended S.I. Hayakawa (Professor, author one time President Emeritus of Berkley University and a U.S. Senator) institutionalize his son who had Down's Syndrome. He didn't. His other two children as young adults talked to a magazine (can't remember which read article so long ago) about how glad they were to have their brother with them, that they learned from the experience and felt enriched by it.

My point is we don't all learn at the same rate especially when it comes to how we deal with life and other people. But as a species we do make psychological-social progress from one generation to the next. Sometimes it feels way too slow to those of us who've been inclusive most all of our lives, but it also can feel too fast that aren't. If we don't destroy ourselves one way or the other --- we could improve as species.

On side note i could make an argument for trusting one's instincts over the 'experts' based on the paradigm changes on what should be done with people neurologically 'different' since the middle of the last century. It's one of the reasons i don't give 'scientists' a pass on their mistakes--because some of them do damage to human beings already vulnerable. There's really not a whole lot of difference between the paradigms of social sciences and religious dogma, the main one being that when individuals consistently challenge the paradigms---science, often in attempt to prove their critics wrong, do more research, discover their errors and DO change faster than religions do.
That was such a lovely post . You clearly have done a fabulous job of raising your children and maintaining the integrity you wish to instil in them.

Your ideas and standards of living to combat hostility are admirable. Clearly you’ve put a lot of thought into this to protect yourself and your family.

Less than a hundred years ago they also institutionalized those with mental disorders. Before that they burned them to a stake. Less than ONE HUNDRED years ago!!!!!!
Does that not astound you? Does that not make you shake your head in shear disbelief?

In the mid evil times, they used to quarter humans by way of using horses while they sat eating in the stadium cheering. The Vikings used to pillage and vandalize others to steal from them. Are we instinctively savages?

When riots break out, people think it’s a perfect opportunity to break into stores to steal stuff. These are recent events. There’s been a president who has been known to blurt out racial comments.

In reality, it’s all about status and human beings are just as motivated by it as pack animals. Pack mentality is a phenomenon in which people make decisions based upon the actions of others, sometimes without even realizing it. It stems from the animalistic drive to want to fit in. We ARE social and status-seeking animals after all.

Most people go with what the majority thinks and align their behaviour to fit into the pack in an effort to not be left behind. 😳 I’m learning all this as I write and realize how abnormal I am. This is why animals do this. Apparently it’s an instinctual behaviour but there’s an evolutionary reason why.

There’s an instinctive reason to want to fit it. It’s a fact that ones that don’t fit in have less of a survival rate. Ones who survive are the usually the strongest and healthiest both physically and mentally which is sought after due to genetic factors. Having the healthiest genetics helps the pack survive as a species.

Since humans are basically pack animals, we have pack animal mentality. Like a pack of wolves killing the injured or weakest in order not to slow the pack down, humans do something similar. Humans are known to snap at the weakest link or ones that don’t quite fit it whether that be for racial reasons, some type of deformity, social status etc. When one person is considered very abnormal , it’s not unusual for a pack to attack.

While I applaud your sentiment in thinking human pack mentality can be something we outgrow, I can’t share your views. Mankind is far too greedy, too selfish, and too arrogantly egotistical to live much longer. These ugly characteristics have helped kill off half of the worlds species and will eventually be what makes us extinct.

Look at the world right now. There’s global warming, global forest fires, global pandemics, global flooding, hurricanes etc., most of it due to our own greed. If selfish greed can’t be outgrown before our extinction, pack mentality definitely can’t be.

It’s an interesting conversation and something I’ve thought of quite often.
I wish I could think more highly of our species but know that I’d be kidding myself.
 
I know your point is about how crazy the world has gotten, but your knowledge of and sympathy for those sideshow 'freaks' suggests you'd appreciate the story of how i knew some of them.

Many of those sideshow performers wintered in a small town in Florida. Some in houses, some in The Giant's Camp, a trailer park owned by a Mr. Tremayne, a giant and his wife Ginny, who was billed as the half woman because she had almost no legs. Circus dwarves and the 'Mule faced lady' lived there too.

They were the first people other than hospital staff and my parents to hold me, coo over me. In 1946 my parents were the only 'normals' there. Mom was pregnant with me. We lived there till i was about a year old then moved to Ruskin.

But my parents had gotten on well with those folks, Dad considered Mr. Tremayne a friend and Mom said Grace McDaniels (the Mule faced lady) was the sweetest person she'd ever known, so we visited.them when they were there until Mom and i left Florida in 1956. And i have good memories of them.

Like any other demographic, it included some not so nice people, but i never knew those personally, rather i learned of them from documentaries and news later in life. I've long thought my early interactions with the people at The Giant's Camp laid the foundation for my certainty that a soul is a soul regardless of external form.
Beautiful. Very touching. Thanks for sharing that.
 

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