Funny how times have changed people.

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GP44

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An inlaw has a relative who lost his job.
The place just gave them their last paycheck and closed the doors.
So this guy I’ll call Bob has a wife and three teen daughters and he had been working from home.
One of those office job type of worker.
So my Son In Law has everybody keeping an eye out for work for Bob.
I saw where a place was looking for fork truck drivers for their warehouse.
Do you think Bob could learn to drive a fork truck?
No! He is more of an office working type guy.
Maybe it was because in my day and age that if you wanted to eat you got your hands dirty. Maybe you didn’t make a career out of doing hard work but it paid the rent for a while.
But I see it a lot of times ,these days, where people look at you like you have two heads if you suggest that they do anything different than the kind of work that they are used to doing.
I remember being a factory worker and when we went on strike against our company I got on pipeline construction for two months and loved every minute of it.
Hard work and long hours but it was outside and it paid a lot more than what I was getting from my factory job!
Makes me wonder how bad off some people would have to be to stoop to doing manual labor?
 
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GP44 said:
An inlaw has a relative who lost his job.
The place just gave them their last paycheck and closed the doors.
So this guy I’ll call Bob has a wife and three teen daughters and he had been working from home.
One of those office job type of worker.
So my Son In Law has everybody keeping an eye out for work for Bob.
I saw where a place was looking fork truck drivers for their warehouse.
Do you think Bob could learn to drive a fork truck?
No! He is more of an office working type guy.
Maybe it was because in my day and age that if you wanted to eat you got your hands dirty. Maybe you didn’t make a career out of doing hard work but it paid the rent for a while.
But I see it a lot these days where people look at you like you have two heads if you suggest that they do anything different than the kind of work that they are used to.
I remember being a factory worker and when we went on strike against our company I got on pipeline construction and loved every minute of it.
Hard work and long hours but it was outside and it paid a lot more than what I was getting from my factory job!
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I have no sympathy for that type of attitude (i.e., Bob's). As I've noted a few times in other threads, I nearly ran my professional career into the ground because of my addiction. I spent more then 2 years doing whatever job I could get, fast, to get the money coming in. I worked as a breakfast host at a local hotel until COVID derailed that. Then I scrubbed toilets and urinals, and mopped floors, for a year at a local manufacturing plant.

I was fortunate to painstakingly resurrect my previous work during that time and now I'm back at it.

I've always told my three kids that there's nothing wrong with an honest day's work, no matter what it is. My motto is "Ya gotta do what ya gotta do."
 
My father was an electrician by trade, and a good one - but I remember a time when he was laid off and temporarily took a job at a meat packing plant which processed hogs. It was all he could find at the time to keep us going. He came home sick to his stomach many nights, but he stayed with it until a job came along in his field.
 
Still don’t understand why even as a kid I had a drive to always have money for whatever I wanted.
My parents weren’t poor but I just had that sort of self respect to want to work for what I wanted.
I did all of the jobs kids could do and as a teen I did farm - field work in the summer and restaurant work at times while going to school.
I was the cool kid at school who had nice car and bought my own letter jacket and class ring.
It never bothered me that the wealthy kids never had to work for those things.
There is a bond that is formed between people who aren’t afraid to work hard.
To me they were the best people in the world.
 
I remember when I moved to Texas. The only job I could get at first was bagging groceries at HEB. It didn't take long after that, to get hired on at the Library. I loved that job!

My boss said she hired me because I obviously wanted to work.

I also worked in factories back in the day (Teamster). I was young and it paid very well. But, I sure didn't want to be doing that when I was 50+ years old. I watched older people struggle.

Went back to office work and stayed there. It didn't pay as much then, but over time I caught up and surpassed where I had been and my back thanked me!
 
I lost my IT job in 2001 after the industry took a dive (after Y2K). I was 50 years old and went to school for 6 months (almost full time) and became a CNA along with mostly 18-22 year old young ladies. Went from an office job to working in a med-surg unit making beds, feeding people, cleaning GI bleeds, and doing post-mortem clean up. Best experience in my life! Really tough job but so many people appreciated it. Gave me a whole new perspective on life.
 
One of the most beneficial traits in my life has been my ability to be willing to work harder than others. I never whined about it, never said no to something because it was hard or beneith me, I shut up and got to it. Hard work is the only way I knew to survive.
 
I've never understood when people whine, "I've been out of work for three years and I can't find a job!"

There are plenty of jobs to find; they just might not be exactly what you want to do, but....

The excuses: "I can't find work in my discipline." Well, change your discipline. "That job would be a step back for me!" Well, just like dancing, sometimes you have to take a step back before you take a step forward. "I'd be embarrassed to have that on my resume!" Oh, a three-year gap in employment looks better? "That's not the kind of job I'd be proud of!" Unless it's a job as a prostitute or a politician, wouldn't that be better than sitting in your mom's basement playing video games for three years?
 
Some people know how to hustle and some don’t.

Also, some people have never truly experienced hard times and don’t believe that they will be the one sleeping under a bridge.

I took it all a bit too seriously because I never had a reliable support network to fall back on if times got tough.

Hats off to the folks that make it through life without having to make the tough choices to simply survive.
 
GP44 said:
An inlaw has a relative who lost his job.
The place just gave them their last paycheck and closed the doors.
So this guy I’ll call Bob has a wife and three teen daughters and he had been working from home.
One of those office job type of worker.
So my Son In Law has everybody keeping an eye out for work for Bob.
I saw where a place was looking for fork truck drivers for their warehouse.
Do you think Bob could learn to drive a fork truck?
No! He is more of an office working type guy.
Maybe it was because in my day and age that if you wanted to eat you got your hands dirty. Maybe you didn’t make a career out of doing hard work but it paid the rent for a while.
But I see it a lot of times ,these days, where people look at you like you have two heads if you suggest that they do anything different than the kind of work that they are used to doing.
I remember being a factory worker and when we went on strike against our company I got on pipeline construction for two months and loved every minute of it.
Hard work and long hours but it was outside and it paid a lot more than what I was getting from my factory job!
Makes me wonder how bad off some people would have to be to stoop to doing manual labor?
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The way unemployment benefit law is written in the USA, it kind of discourages people settling temporarily. How do you go on job interviews while simultaneously driving a fork lift?

In the UK, it really is true that people "on the dole" are barely getting by, the factual reality is that what very few jobs exist would
not pay enough to live on. Industry got sold out and exported in America and the UK for the most part. NAFTA was a disaster.
 
retiredtraveler said:
I lost my IT job in 2001 after the industry took a dive (after Y2K). I was 50 years old and went to school for 6 months (almost full time) and became a CNA along with mostly 18-22 year old young ladies. Went from an office job to working in a med-surg unit making beds, feeding people, cleaning GI bleeds, and doing post-mortem clean up. Best experience in my life! Really tough job but so many people appreciated it. Gave me a whole new perspective on life.
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In the mid nineties, I tried a paid class to become a Paralegal. Class composed of Me and all women, mostly middle aged, a couple airhead girls. One girl asked the teacher, (who was a lawyer) if she should have to pay for the windshield of the sports car she smashed when the owner/boyfiend dumped her. Dont' women have special legal protections now? she seriously asked.

The professor did not tell her she was a twit, because, you know, womens sh*t does not stink any more due to feminism.

I figured, okay, story time.

I related a recent news article. A woman came into her ex husband's place of work screaming at him that she did not get the child support check. By law in NH, this money has to be paid to the State, which then pays the custodial parent. He investigated and found out that for no reason he had paid them but they had not paid her.

From then on, he paid her directly. An aggressive female bureaucrat had him arrested for doing this and the judge ordered him to resume filtering the money thorogh the government agency. He refused, preferring to go to jail.

I asked if there were any laws on the books holding recipients accountable for how the money gets spent. For example, my neighbor had sole custody of three kids, and she used the child support payments she got from her ex, to buy herself a sports car.
Not basic transportation, a Pontiac Firebird.

The women in the class SCREAMED at me for daring to suggest they should have to prove child support money is spent on, you know, kids.

It took me while to realize that these women must all be divorced.
Bitter, overdressed, too much makeup, pathetically trying to appear ten years younger.

A lot has been said about men dominating certain professions but it works both ways for certain.
 
Bearcat22 said:
In the mid nineties, I tried a paid class to become a Paralegal. Class composed of Me and all women, mostly middle aged, a couple airhead girls. One girl asked the teacher, (who was a lawyer) if she should have to pay for the windshield of the sports car she smashed when the owner/boyfiend dumped her. Dont' women have special legal protections now? she seriously asked.

The professor did not tell her she was a twit, because, you know, womens sh*t does not stink any more due to feminism.

I figured, okay, story time.

I related a recent news article. A woman came into her ex husband's place of work screaming at him that she did not get the child support check. By law in NH, this money has to be paid to the State, which then pays the custodial parent. He investigated and found out that for no reason he had paid them but they had not paid her.

From then on, he paid her directly. An aggressive female bureaucrat had him arrested for doing this and the judge ordered him to resume filtering the money thorogh the government agency. He refused, preferring to go to jail.

I asked if there were any laws on the books holding recipients accountable for how the money gets spent. For example, my neighbor had sole custody of three kids, and she used the child support payments she got from her ex, to buy herself a sports car.
Not basic transportation, a Pontiac Firebird.

The women in the class SCREAMED at me for daring to suggest they should have to prove child support money is spent on, you know, kids.

It took me while to realize that these women must all be divorced.
Bitter, overdressed, too much makeup, pathetically trying to appear ten years younger.

A lot has been said about men dominating certain professions but it works both ways for certain.
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That's a good reason for a man to not work so much. Work part time, take care of the kids half the time. Then she can't steal them and demand money.
 
On order to push our house of cards forward we have created all manner of new, and unnecessary professions. Realtors, paralegals, travel agents, decorators, compliance specialists, lobbyists, telemarketers ...
It is a good and healthy feeling to be truly useful, even essential in society, as for example a cook, a baker, a candlestick maker.
 
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