Future Plans to GUT MEDICARE for Seniors - Voucher System

It does not make much sense to me. One of the rationales for the reduction is that it will reduce the number of MD visits seniors make. BUT, if the bill goes through....it will stop the proposed 20% cut in reimbursement to MD's, for Medicare visits. A cut that the medical profession are lobbying congress about. If the cut does not go through....but, the number of Medicare visits are greatly reduced, what will the medical profession gain? And one of the most vunerable population...the seniors will be the ones suffering. Or, am I not looking at this picture correctly?
 

What Bernie Sanders had to say today about this year's Republican purposed budget....

[h=1]Bernie Sanders Storms The Senate and Rips The Republican Rich Get Richer Budget[/h]http://www.politicususa.com/2015/03...enate-rips-republican-rich-richer-budget.html

Bernie Sanders Storms The Senate and Rips The Republican Rich Get Richer Budget
By: Jason Easley
Wednesday, March, 18th, 2015, 4:34 pm


Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) showed why he was named to the top Democratic post on the Senate Budget Committee by shredding the Republican budget proposals.

Video @ link~

Sen. Sanders said:

As I examine the budget brought forth by the Republicans in the House and here in the Senate, this is how I see their analysis of the problems facing our country.

At a time of massive wealth and income inequality, the Republicans apparently believe that the richest people in America need to be made even richer. It is apparently not good enough that 99 percent of all new income today is going to the top 1 percent. That’s apparently not enough. It is not good enough that the top one-tenth of one percent today own almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent. Clearly, in Republican eyes, the wealthy and the powerful need more help. Not only should they not be asked to pay more in taxes, the Republicans believe that we should cut tax rates for millionaires and billionaires.

It is not good enough that corporate America is enjoying record breaking profits, and that the CEOs of large corporations earn some 290 times more than what their average employees make.

“It is apparently not good enough that since 1985 the top one-tenth of 1 percent has seen a more then $8 trillion increase in its wealth than what they would have had if wealth inequality had stayed at the same level that it was in 1985. An $8 trillion increase in the wealth of the top one-tenth of 1 percent! Apparently, that is not enough.

Meanwhile, as I understand the Republican view of our country, as manifested in the House and Senate budgets, it appears that millions of middle class and working families, people who are working longer hours for lower wages, people who have seen significant declines in their standard of living over the last 40 years, these people apparently do not need our help, rather they need to see a major reduction in federal programs that help make their lives, and the lives of their kids, a little bit better.

At a time when we have over 45 million Americans living in poverty – more than almost any time in the modern history of this country, my Republican colleagues think we should increase that number by cutting the Earned Income Tax Credit, affordable housing, and Medicaid. At a time when almost 20 percent of our children live in poverty, by far the highest childhood poverty rate of any major country on earth, my Republican colleagues think that maybe we should raise the childhood poverty rate a bit higher by cutting childcare, Head Start, the Child Tax Credit and nutrition assistance for hungry kids.

To summarize: the rich get much richer, and the Republicans think they need more help. The middle class and working families of this country become poorer, and the Republicans think we need to cut programs they desperately need. Frankly, those may be the priorities of some of my Republican colleagues in this room, but I do not believe that these are the priorities of the American people.


Sen. Sanders was correct. The Republicans are offering up the ultimate rich get richer budgets. The goal of the Republican budget is to take money away from poor and middle-class Americans and give it to the people at the top. Sanders was spot on. No matter how much wealth the richest Americans accumulate, Congressional Republicans believe that they deserve more.

The House and Senate Republican budget deserve the scorn of the American people because they explicitly confirm the Republican goal of creating an oligarchic society that consists of a few haves and everyone else being a have not. Bernie Sanders saw the picture behind the budget. The Republican budgets have become an annual declaration of economic warfare against the non-rich.

President Obama and Bernie Sanders have both sounded the alarms bells as it relates to this budget, and if Republicans want a fight, they’ve got one.
 
The best way to fight is to make sure we vote, and get them all out of office It will be pretty easy to take back the Senate Majority.. The House will be more difficult.. BUT if people wake up maybe it could be done.
 

[h=1]Paul Krugman on more GOP dickishness[/h]
(T)he just-released budgets from the House and Senate majorities break new ground. Each contains not one but two trillion-dollar magic asterisks: one on spending, one on revenue. And that’s actually an understatement. If either budget were to become law, it would leave the federal government several trillion dollars deeper in debt than claimed, and that’s just in the first decade.

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The modern G.O.P.’s raw fiscal dishonesty is something new in American politics. And that’s telling us something important about what has happened to half of our political spectrum.

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(B)oth (budgets) claim drastic reductions in federal spending. Some of those spending reductions are specified: There would be savage cuts in food stamps, similarly savage cuts in Medicaid over and above reversing the recent expansion, and an end to Obamacare’s health insurance subsidies. Rough estimates suggest that either plan would roughly double the number of Americans without health insurance. But both also claim more than a trillion dollars in further cuts to mandatory spending, which would almost surely have to come out of Medicare or Social Security. What form would these further cuts take? We get no hint.

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... Republicans really believe that tax cuts for the rich would generate a huge boom and a surge in revenue, but they’re afraid that the public won’t find such claims credible. So magic asterisks are really stand-ins for their belief in the magic of supply-side economics, a belief that remains intact even though proponents in that doctrine have been wrong about everything for decades.

But I’m partial to a more cynical explanation. Think about what these budgets would do if you ignore the mysterious trillions in unspecified spending cuts and revenue enhancements. What you’re left with is huge transfers of income from the poor and the working class, who would see severe benefit cuts, to the rich, who would see big tax cuts. And the simplest way to understand these budgets is surely to suppose that they are intended to do what they would, in fact, actually do: make the rich richer and ordinary families poorer.

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Look, I know that it’s hard to keep up the outrage after so many years of fiscal fraudulence. But please try. We’re looking at an enormous, destructive con job, and you should be very, very angry.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/20/o...type=Homepage&module=c-column-top-span-region®ion=c-column-top-span-region&W
 
I am so tired of this. Social Security can be made solvent and payable at 100% FOREVER... IF we raise the cap on the income taxed with FICA from $118,500 to at least $500,000. It's a really simple fix.. However.. again.. tax on the wealthy will never gain GOP support. It is far better to let the poor, disabled and elderly suffer than the Rich pay one penny more. The only way to make it even better for the Rich is to Privatize SS. That way Wall Street gets to gamble with our money and take none of the risk. If they make bad bets, it's us who will pay with reduced benefits.. BUT if the bets are good? We won't see a dime of the proceeds.. it will all go to the wealthy. NICE deal.. ain't it?
 
Being in a facetious mood I must say: Seniors won't really need Medicare anymore if they would just follow good ole' [former Sen.] Fred Thompson's advice, and get a reverse mortgage. Actually, with the decline in real estates values, I can't imagine anyone having much equity left in their house, with which to "reverse-mortgage" with. :shrug:
 
tnthomas said:
Being in a facetious mood I must say: Seniors won't really need Medicare anymore if they would just follow good ole' [former Sen.] Fred Thompson's advice, and get a reverse mortgage. Actually, with the decline in real estates values, I can't imagine anyone having much equity left in their house, with which to "reverse-mortgage" with. :shrug:
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Oh don't get me started on that "Reverse Mortgage" scam.. Just another ploy to move money from the middle class up to the top. Peoples homes are sometimes their biggest assets... Most folks would hope to be able to leave that asset to their kids or heirs.. BUT.. the 1% and the banksters have figured out a way to relieve the middle class of that too.
 
Been a long and boring thread here. Lots of bitching about the Republicans as some can't see that the Democrats have been in charge for 8 years now and just about two more years to go. Why not point some blame to the Democrats too, they are pretty guilty of bad ideas for sure.

Obama care has cost me more than what my employer charged for the same coverages and I have to do lots of medical paper work all the time now. No more just showing my card and knowing the information was already on file. Yes, my medical care now costs me more for the same coverage I had with my employer before this ripoff got started.

Why do we have to have the Obama care program as there are many other methods for government guidance and funding if we look around the world. England is different and so is Holland and others in Europe. There are many ways to help the people get better and less expensive medical care than just plain Obama care. Why did not Obama allow the Republicans to offer their incites and alternative ways of providing medical assistance.

All you folks that think Obama care is the only answer to having governments help people to get medical care. We do need to have a good look back on Obama care and fix the problems for sure and some areas may deserve and need some changes for sure.

What will the Supreme Court say later this spring when they publish their findings. Might be a big surprise for some folks. I think lots of you cry babies need to take another look at what has been hatched for many of us older folks. What we have is not just the only way things could have gone and resulted in the same or better circumstances for all.
 
BobF said:
Obama care has cost me more than what my employer charged for the same coverages and I have to do lots of medical paper work all the time now. No more just showing my card and knowing the information was already on file. Yes, my medical care now costs me more for the same coverage I had with my employer before this ripoff got started.

All you folks that think Obama care is the only answer to having governments help people to get medical care.

I think lots of you cry babies need to take another look at what has been hatched for many of us older folks.
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Of course when we were employed, the employer paid a large part of our health insurance coverage, I saw exactly how much when I had to pay that amount out of pocket in my Cobra payments and afterwards. ObamaCare has save us a lot of money on monthly premium bills. Many others have benefited from the Affordable Care Act, especially those with pre-existing conditions, etc. I'm not a cry baby, more of a realist, ObamaCare isn't the only answer, Universal or Single Payer would be ideal.
 
QuickSilver said:
There ya go again.... lol!!
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And When will you have something significant to say?

Obama care is a joke on all of us and will likely be changed as different Presidents can and will do. Maybe more like England's will be better. Their medical program started out poorly, just as Obama care is starting our, and then in time they introduced different ways of running the show. Not sure, but now I think, some of their medical centers are granted certain amounts of money and then they work with the people and practitioners in order to make it better for all. By that I mean, that a medical district got XX dollars lump sum promised, and the medical service was provided from that bundle available. Really cut down on a lot of paper work and they were able to speed up services and follow up services for the patients.
 
BobF said:
And When will you have something significant to say?

Obama care is a joke on all of us and will likely be changed as different Presidents can and will do. Maybe more like England's will be better. Their medical program started out poorly, just as Obama care is starting our, and then in time they introduced different ways of running the show. Not sure, but now I think, some of their medical centers are granted certain amounts of money and then they work with the people and practitioners in order to make it better for all. By that I mean, that a medical district got XX dollars lump sum promised, and the medical service was provided from that bundle available. Really cut down on a lot of paper work and they were able to speed up services and follow up services for the patients.
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When will you even bother to read all the significant things I say?
 
SeaBreeze said:
Of course when we were employed, the employer paid a large part of our health insurance coverage, I saw exactly how much when I had to pay that amount out of pocket in my Cobra payments and afterwards. ObamaCare has save us a lot of money on monthly premium bills. Many others have benefited from the Affordable Care Act, especially those with pre-existing conditions, etc. I'm not a cry baby, more of a realist, ObamaCare isn't the only answer, Universal or Single Payer would be ideal.
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That was certainly true of my employer. I had to pay for what I signed up for and the total bill was much less than what I pay for now. I still have my Medicare coverage but now I have to buy eye care and dental care for me and the wife. All told, much more than I had to pay the employer for the same coverage. The employer still gives me some money each year but it is not enough to cover my repetition of what was in the program prior. All in all, it is costing us more now than before.

And we still hear there are thousands more that have not been picked up. Those are the ones that should have been covered in the first place and then come after those of us who were happy with what we had some years later after learning about how to best handle health care.
 
Yes I do pay attention, but all I see are put downs and empty words. You need to try a bit harder if you want to be recognized as honest and trustworthy and not just a empty headed political hack. Try and I think you could be more than you are doing.
 
If you learn to read and comprehend, I was not calling you anything at all. I said "and not just a empty headed political hack." I gave a description of what you might be called. My comments are not intended to be funny either, but if you must giggle through your life, do it.

My last post to this nonsense.
 
Oh quit splitting hairs... However, If you are seriously not trying to be funny... I'm really amazed.. because you are. You must just have a natural talent!
 

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