StarSong
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I so agree with you on this, @Rosemarie. We should be much better stewards of the planet and the creatures on it than we have been.
German scientists make paralyzed mice walk again
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When I was a child , my best friend, brother in law shot their dog because they didn’t want to pay the money to have the dog put down.
If there's one thing I've learned in life, Keesha, some things (living or not) mean absolutely nothing to some people.
Mere disposable things they are.
Absolutely. A dog Is man’s/ woman’s best friend who would risk their life for their owner. They dedicate their entire life to us. The least thing we can do is comfort them in their last moments and let them know how much we love them . What brave loyal dogs they are and how we will never ever forget them
It’s heart wrenching but dogs are as much family to some as human children are to others.
That would be us, Keesha.
fmdog44
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Next time you have a heart attack call a mouse.
Knight
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How do you interpret this?
Quote from my post
Exactly how that domination is supposed to work I don't know.
For those that post that use of animals to provide mankind with solutions to medical issues is wrong. I hope you are pure vegan. Otherwise it's a little hypocritical to know all kinds of animals are slaughtered in order for you to feed yourself.
Then there is the leap from animals used for life saving, to household pets ? How many keep enough lab rats in their home to equal the weight of lets say a medium sized dog?
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Knight
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Thanks for the love emoji Aneeda
Never did get a reply to post #58.
Maybe if enough people got together to complain about all the life saving vaccines & other medical advancements made possible by using animals they could re institute those ills and then get together to solve how to produce the same cures without animals.
Never did get a reply to post #58.
Maybe if enough people got together to complain about all the life saving vaccines & other medical advancements made possible by using animals they could re institute those ills and then get together to solve how to produce the same cures without animals.
Aneeda72
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It hypocritical of people, IMO, to claim they hate experiments on animals and yet take advantage of every single medical surgery, prescription drug, and other medical procedures that can be offered due to the experiments conducted on animals.
Not to mention the people on this thread who make comments and then put MAKE UP on every dang day. Dogs, and other animals, that went blind so they could wear eye shadow. I don’t wear makeup, btw, never have, never will. People who have leather seats in their cars, I could go on, but won’t.
Then, of course, there are those that happily sit down to a meat or fish dinner with never a thought for the animal that provided their meals.
Also, the question of forever families for dogs. Dogs are not children. In this country we can’t even get people to adopt children in foster care; we can not get people to give a home to homeless vets, we can’t get decent housing for the elderly. Yet people are worried about dogs being in a forever family. And some of those people have never even owned a dog.
I am a veteran, I have adopted disabled children, I have done foster care, and I have rescued a few dogs and made their lives better. But people who have done none of these things think they can judge me. WOW. Judge away, those who do nothing but care for themselves.
Who takes advantage of every medical surgery, prescription drug and any of medical procedures that are offered due to experiments done on animals?
Not all make up and or bath and body products are tested on animals. The ones that are the cheapest usually are. The ones that aren’t are often much more expensive. They are usually labelled ‘no experiments have been made testing these products.
Not all meats come from the slaughter house. There are many free range sources of food where animals are treated very well. Experiments have shown that animals treated this way have a higher vibration and eating these types of foods also raise the human vibration but once again, the cost of these foods are expensive. Then of course there are vegan eaters who completely respect all living creatures. There are MANY of them.
Dogs are not children but it’s nobody’s business how much people love their dogs. We opted to own dogs and don’t have any of our own children and frankly, I couldn’t give care less what others think nor do I personally care who adopted or had their own children.
Everybody makes choices that suite them and we all are allowed to express opinions even if others don’t like them.
Hypocritical?
I doubt there’s one member here who isn’t hypocritical.
Not all make up and or bath and body products are tested on animals. The ones that are the cheapest usually are. The ones that aren’t are often much more expensive. They are usually labelled ‘no experiments have been made testing these products.
Not all meats come from the slaughter house. There are many free range sources of food where animals are treated very well. Experiments have shown that animals treated this way have a higher vibration and eating these types of foods also raise the human vibration but once again, the cost of these foods are expensive. Then of course there are vegan eaters who completely respect all living creatures. There are MANY of them.
Dogs are not children but it’s nobody’s business how much people love their dogs. We opted to own dogs and don’t have any of our own children and frankly, I couldn’t give care less what others think nor do I personally care who adopted or had their own children.
Everybody makes choices that suite them and we all are allowed to express opinions even if others don’t like them.
Hypocritical?
I doubt there’s one member here who isn’t hypocritical.
I'm not hypocritical. And I never swear, dammit.Who takes advantage of every medical surgery, prescription drug and any of medical procedures that are offered due to experiments done on animals?
Not all make up and or bath and body products are tested on animals. The ones that are the cheapest usually are. The ones that aren’t are often much more expensive. They are usually labelled ‘no experiments have been made testing these products.
Not all meats come from the slaughter house. There are many free range sources of food where animals are treated very well. Experiments have shown that animals treated this way have a higher vibration and eating these types of foods also raise the human vibration but once again, the cost of these foods are expensive. Then of course there are vegan eaters who completely respect all living creatures. There are MANY of them.
Dogs are not children but it’s nobody’s business how much people love their dogs. We opted to own dogs and don’t have any of our own children and frankly, I couldn’t give care less what others think nor do I personally care who adopted or had their own children.
Everybody makes choices that suite them and we all are allowed to express opinions even if others don’t like them.
Hypocritical?
I doubt there’s one member here who isn’t hypocritical.
Nope. Me neither! Even when I stub my toe or break a bone.
My post is actually a needless unnecessary post.
My point being we are ALL judgmental to the point of being hypocritical. Our beliefs just ring more true cause we’ve spent more time milling them over in our minds and our minds aren’t always right. Our minds are super biased.
At these thats how I feel.
Anyway I’m going to get off this topic since I don’t do well with serious. I’ll try to stick with light and funny or beautiful.
Ruby Rose
Location: Canadian Prairies
You have done your research...I wish I had done the same many years ago. Thalidomide was a drug banned in Canada and taken off the shelves for unpublished reasons. When living in Germany in early 1960s, and was pregnant with my first baby, I was dispensed 'Thalidomide' to curb morning sickness. They were prescribed to me through the Military...they had not been removed from their shelves. The rest is history, when I was seven months pregnant, I was informed that my baby would die at birth and she did. She was labelled as a 'Thalidomide baby'. Needless to say I was not allowed to talk about this. I had no voice. I found out why at the special graveyard where she is buried in Germany. This graveyard consisted of all little white crosses depicting Canadian babies that had died due to ??? Needless to say, I am totally against morning sickness pills or such. I now have three healthy children...born in Canada.
On another note, we have many horses...and many of them are rescues before they are terminated and sold for meat.
mellowyellow
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OMG Ruby Rose, that's an horrific story, so glad you have three healthy children. Years ago, I knew a happy young woman who was a product of Thalidomide, she had no arms, and as I watched her change her baby's cloth nappy with her feet, I marvelled at her ingenuity. I wonder if they used animals to discover it was so dangerous.
Knight
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The Thalidomide issue was created in Germany over 50 years ago. When birth defects started the cause was traced to the German mfg.
Nearly every medical breakthrough involves animal testing and research.
If you’ve ever taken antibiotics, had a vaccine, a blood transfusion, dialysis, an organ transplant, chemotherapy, bypass surgery or joint replacement, you have benefitted from animal testing and research. In fact, practically every drug, treatment, medical device, diagnostic tool or cure we have today was developed with the help of lab animals.
Many diseases that once killed millions of people every year are now either preventable, treatable or have been eradicated altogether. Immunizations against polio, diphtheria, mumps, rubella and hepatitis save countless lives and the survival rates for many major diseases are at an all-time high thanks to the discovery of new drugs and the design of sophisticated medical devices and surgical procedures. In the coming years, a universal influenza vaccine may be a reality, as well as a vaccine to end the HIV/AIDS pandemic.
Animal testing and research saves lives
Since 1900, the average human life span in the United States has increased by almost 30 years. In 2015, infant mortality in the U.S. – a key indicator of the nation’s health – was measured at 5.87 deaths per 1,000 live births compared to 55 deaths per 1,000 live births in 1935.
https://fbresearch.org/medical-advances/
Yes there are horror stories concerning use of animals but I've not read about those that favor no animal use for testing come up with an alternative.
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mellowyellow
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Thank you Knight for that information, yes it's unfortunate that we need to use animals but the alternative doesn't bear thinking about.
Youngatheart
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What if you had mouse infestation in your home?
Phoenix
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- Oregon, U S
I've had mice eat up my cars' engines. That doesn't change anything about how I feel.
Aneeda72
Well-known Member
Well, if you get deer mice in your house or elsewhere you won’t need to worry about how you feel, you will feel like you are dying, cause you be.