Global Warming, where is it?

[Cap'n Mike]

Remember now ice melting in the ocean will not raise the level of the ocean. An ice cube melting in your glass won't raise the level. It has to be coming from land ice like it did where I now sit about 10,000 years ago.

True! The single largest ice mass we need to be really concerned about is the antarctic. Here ice melt will have a significant effect on ocean levels. I can't quite work out what effect ice melt at the Arctic will have as theoretically it is "floating".

 

[Camper6]

There is lots of sources and as I mentioned before which one is the official one.

Is it the IPCC. That's the one I look at because it's international.

So far I have no cause for alarm because the temperature is within normal limits at 1.8 percent C.

The other thing I look at is migrations of birds.

Where I live they track migrations. I have yet to see a cardinal. And the day I see those multiple bird houses in our area (I don't know the name of those birds) but they nest in huge birdhouses. We don't get them here.

 

[Camper6]

There is lots of sources and as I mentioned before which one is the official one.

Is it the IPCC. That's the one I look at because it's international.

So far I have no cause for alarm because the temperature is within normal limits at 1.8 percent C.

The other thing I look at is migrations of birds.

Where I live they track migrations. I have yet to see a cardinal. And the day I see those multiple bird houses in our area (I don't know the name of those birds) but they nest in huge birdhouses. We don't get them here.


I just found out from my friend. Purple Martins. We put up the bird houses but they don't show up.

 

[Don M.]

Remember now ice melting in the ocean will not raise the level of the ocean. An ice cube melting in your glass won't raise the level. It has to be coming from land ice like it did where I now sit about 10,000 years ago.

If you read my earlier note carefully...you will note I was referring to the land locked ice on Greenland and Antarctica. If/when that ice begins to melt substantially, it will MOST CERTAINLY result in a major ocean rise. There are several reliable references to "Greenland Ice Melt" on the Internet....NASA, NOAA, etc.....I urge anyone who doubts the effects of Global Warming to do some research.....keeping in mind that the effects over decades and centuries must be considered. What happened this year, or last year is of little consequence to the overall Big Picture.

 

[Cap'n Mike]

So far I have no cause for alarm because the temperature is within normal limits at 1.8 percent C.

Umm. But are you doing anything to help stop it going any higher, I doubt it as most people think it doesn't concern them, and it doesn't, it's our future generations that are going to suffer.

 

[Camper6]

Umm. But are you doing anything to help stop it going any higher, I doubt it as most people think it doesn't concern them, and it doesn't, it's our future generations that are going to suffer.

Ask yourself what can you do without collapsing the economy. If elimination of carbon is the desired goal, then billions of cars and trucks have to go. They burn gasoline. A fossil fuel. It may be an unattainable goal and we may just have to suffer the consequences or the trade off or whatever you want to call it.

If you are a true believer in carbon causing warming and you still drive a car then you are a hypocrite.

I'm not worrying about future generations. What did we inherit from our previous generation?

 

[Camper6]

If you read my earlier note carefully...you will note I was referring to the land locked ice on Greenland and Antarctica. If/when that ice begins to melt substantially, it will MOST CERTAINLY result in a major ocean rise. There are several reliable references to "Greenland Ice Melt" on the Internet....NASA, NOAA, etc.....I urge anyone who doubts the effects of Global Warming to do some research.....keeping in mind that the effects over decades and centuries must be considered. What happened this year, or last year is of little consequence to the overall Big Picture.

If it does. But are any new glaciers being formed anywhere or are they only all disappearing? Seems to me the Himalayas aren't melting. Even in North America we still have plenty of glaciers.

I visited the Columbian ice fields and I could trace the melting in Alberta. But it's very gradual.

 

[Don M.]

If it does. But are any new glaciers being formed anywhere or are they only all disappearing? Seems to me the Himalayas aren't melting. Even in North America we still have plenty of glaciers.I visited the Columbian ice fields and I could trace the melting in Alberta. But it's very gradual.

If any new glaciers are being formed, they are not being reported.

The Himalayas glaciers are melting at an increasing pace...and that is the fresh water source for millions of people in that region.
http://www.irinnews.org/report/95917/climate-change-himalayan-glaciers-melting-more-rapidly

In Africa, Mt. Kilimanjaro has lost 85% of its ice cap in that past century, and that is the only fresh water supply for millions more
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/world/africa/03melt.html

We have been to the Columbia Ice Fields 3 times in the past 40 years. The first time we were there, the glacier almost reached the road, and we took one of those monster tour busses out onto the glacier. The last time we were there, about 5 years ago, the ice had retreated almost a mile from the highway, and the tour busses were shut down because the path they had carved for the busses had developed some huge crevasses, and they were in the process of trying to find a new route.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...pear-within-generation-says-manager-1.2653641

The information supporting the melting of land locked ice, due to increases in the global temperatures is all over the Internet...waiting for those in denial to do some basic research.

 

[Camper6]

So Don. Are we doomed?

New glaciers are being formed . Mt. St Helens, New Zealand, The Antarctic.

Just waiting for the doom and gloomers to do some basic research.