God and Christ often meet various humans on mountain tops

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Here is a story I followed several years ago and just tracked down again. It's about a lucid experienced mountain climber who decided to spend the w/end or longer with a friend in some high Usa Alps and got into serious trouble and had eventually prepared himself mentally just to die when the "Christ" appeared and comforted him and told he he needed to return home ; it wasn't his time to "die" just now!!


trapped on a mountain - prepared to die

what a frightening experience and then such an amazing one also?
 

When my son was two years old, he was helicoptered to Children's Hospital in Washington DC. The doctors worked on him trying various things. His heartbeat flatlined several times. Then, miraculously, his heartbeat returned and he gradually recovered.

At 4 years old we visited my sister. She took my son for a walk and told me that he had pointed to a peak in the Tucson Mountains and said "I've been there". She said, "no, we've never gone up there". He insisted he was up there looking down and someone was next to him. Later I asked him to describe who was next to him. He said, I don't know because I was looking down but it was someone very very bright.
 

As I've noted in the past on this board, although I'm a mass-going Christian, I have unique views. Importantly, I don't think an Omnipotent, Omniscient, and Omnipresent, aka OOO, entity is possible because it accepts that actions without forces are possible, that I see as non-science magic nonsense. And although I expect some parts of the Bible are indeed inspired, much is not, nor is what is at least somewhat inspired, verbatim accurate but rather are historically passed via oral tradition. And that what religion calls "god" just as is vaguely stated in Genesis, that he is a part of a race of "angels" that I expect are vastly ancient intelligent entities, aka UIEs, that are at least all or mostly non-organics in order to be immortal.

Gen 1:26 >>> "Then God said, “Let Us make mankind in Our image, according to Our likeness;..."
Gen 32:1 >>>"Now as Jacob went on his way, the angels of God met him."


The Transfiguration is in all 3 synoptic gospels that if true, provides strong evidence that eternal life is possible because both Moses and Elijah met there with Jesus, that would otherwise have been long dead and gone. That is why I lean towards the belief that UIEs figured out how to transfer the effective impedances for the electromagnetic field within DNA organic bodies into non-organic containers with similar impedances. The UIEs would certainly have enormous reason to do so if that is possible.

As such, that field would rise identically in such a container without being actually transferred. Jesus also related, a human body needed to die before being reborn into eternal life. That would be the case in creating such a container. Without that process, any DNA life simply dies to dust forever, non-recoverable.

In a sense, we would be reborn, but like a duplicate that didn't know the difference. In the same way on Star Trek, when Scotty transported humans in the Transporter, each time they would for some microseconds be dead, and then be reborn without realizing that had been the case. That also plays to the narrative in both the Old and New Testaments being of a special water molecular as "spirit" given its extraordinary polar field nature that might be designed using tinier forms of energy/matter at magnitudes between the atomic scales and the Planck scale.

Such UIEs supporting the Jesus mission, would have had a base in a remote area of the Sinai Desert where they used technological craft like space ships. To remain secret, hidden, they would most easily contact humans on mountains since few to no humans lived in those places, just like deep into deserts. A UIE would have absolute command over DNA science. Using gas or absorbable liquids on skin, they would be able to put humans within seconds into brain unconsciousness just like we do with surgical anesthesia and then awaken them likewise without the target human being aware anything had happened other than noticing time had passed in what they perceived was just an instant.

As a long time Sierra Nevada backpacker to remote wilderness locations, I have possibly been visited and modified so by such UIEs, since I would have been a readily available target over decades. As far as I am aware, I have no evidence that is the case nor has a spirit ever whispered into my ears or mind.
 
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As I've noted in the past on this board, although I'm a mass-going Christian, I have unique views. Importantly, I don't think an Omnipotent, Omniscient, and Omnipresent, aka OOO, entity is possible because it accepts that actions without forces are possible, that I see as non-science magic nonsense. And although I expect some parts of the Bible are indeed inspired, much is not, nor is what is at least somewhat inspired, verbatim accurate but rather are historically passed via oral tradition. And that what religion calls "god" just as is stated in Genesis, that he is a part of a race of "angels" that I expect are vastly ancient intelligent entities. aka UIEs, that are at least all or mostly non-organics in order to be immortal.

The Transfiguration is in all 3 synoptic gospels that if true, provides strong evidence that eternal life is possible because both Moses and Elijah met there with Jesus, that would otherwise have been long dead and gone. That is why I lean towards the belief that UIEs figured out how to transfer the effective impedances for the electromagnetic field within DNA organic bodies into non-organic containers with similar impedances. The UIEs would certainly have enormous reason to do so if that is possible.

As such, that field would rise identically in such a container without being actually transferred. Jesus also related, a human body needed to die before being reborn into eternal life. That would be the case in creating such a container. Without that process, any DNA life simply dies to dust forever, non-recoverable.

In a sense, we would be reborn, but like a duplicate that didn't know the difference. In the same way on Star Trek, when Scotty transported humans in the Transporter, each time they would for some microseconds be dead, and then be reborn without realizing that had been the case. That also plays to the narrative in both the Old and New Testaments being of a special water molecular as "spirit" given its extraordinary polar field nature that might be designed using tinier forms of energy/matter at magnitudes between the atomic scales and the Planck scale.

Such UIEs supporting the Jesus mission, would have had a base in a remote area of the Sinai Desert where they used technological craft like space ships. To remain secret, hidden, they would most easily contact humans on mountains since few to no humans lived in those places, just like deep into deserts. A UIE would have absolute command over DNA science. Using gas or absorbable liquids on skin, they would be able to put humans within seconds into brain unconsciousness just like we do with surgical anesthesia and then awaken them likewise without the target human being aware anything had happened other than noticing time had passed in what they perceived was just an instant.

As a long time Sierra Nevada backpacker to remote wilderness locations, I have possibly been visited and modified so by such UIEs, since I would have been a readily available target over decades. As far as I am aware, I have not evidence that is the case nor has a spirit ever whispered into my ears or mind.
old JC probably thought "oh no here comes old D777- who has most of it figured out so will go and help more unfortunates?? - the evidence does seem overwhelming and believable? - something happens up those mountains? and I also think that all the positive experiences have a thread running through them from truly humane and personal to perhaps more scientific as david has pointed out - all cards are on the table perhaps? none need be excluded?
 
Events observed through science and intellect exist in the same universe as spiritual, mystical experiences hence it can be inferred that they have some relationship with each other.
I see no conflict between science and spirituality.
The entity we refer to as God knows physics, chemistry, quantum mechanics and the genome better than we probably ever will.
In my opinion.
 
The higher you go in elevation the less oxygen there is. This can cause hallucinations. That's why some people have "visions" on mountain tops. Then of course there are liars who just make stuff up for attention.
 
On my first mountain climbing experience, when I reached the top, it was a unique and exciting feeling. Here I was above everything around me. I was inspired and imagined God reaching down from above and shaking my hand. Of course, he didn't reach down and shake my hand. I was only imagining it, which is about as close as we can get to believing it really happened. I suppose it's close enough to become a real thing for some people.
 
Not hallucinations because it involved 3 disciples, John, Peter, James that was then in all 3 synoptic gospels. Hallucinations with as much detail as reported in scripture, for an overwhelmingly certain reason, don't occur to multiple witnessing people. Further, they were 3 slightly different versions passed down by oral history then recorded so in 3 gospels that eliminates any likelihood of some imagined event.

Hallucinations don't occur in multiple isolated human brains. Suggestions could, but that is very very limited in scope. One person in a group of others might look up in the night sky and see a shooting star, that the person then proclaims is a UFO, that others in a group then agree with. But that is very different than the Transfiguration that would be more like a story of the UFO landing and the group watching aliens come out and walk about.

So as I argued, there is strong reason for Christians to believe it happened in some way and that is thus a tremendously important bit of scripture that society doesn't seem to have the intelligence to grasp because it establishes with clarity one of the most important issues with religion: The real phenominal possibility of eternal life that all 4 gospel scriptures clearly showed came from the direct mouth of Jesus.

A key reason it is not grasped is because there is so much OOO magic dogma nonsense NOT in scripture but believed by religious authorities that ordinary people just lump it in with "God can do anything imaginable without limitations."

Even as this person, if one doesn't believe in inerrant scripture, nor in OOO magic, nor in elaborate church dogmas, this single part of the gospels is of greatest value for those seeking escape from otherwise eternal existence ending mortality and some of those they love. And if so as I relate, is potentially, the greatest "gift" possible for loving intelligent organic entities in the universe.
 


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