God has a plan. An observation and a question.

Been reading about the reformation
the dark ages
the martyrdom
the out and out sacrifice to even have a Bible, let alone find a safe place to read it
The Waldenses
What a people!
They gave their lives, their livelihood to read that Book
They etched out a living in the mountains to do so

Heh, I give an hour every morning to study the Bible
An hour
It's a struggle
I have to pray for spiritual drive to do even this
I do pray for wisdom, understanding, and retention
That works

but

I disgust myself, when comparing my studies to that of those in those days

Seems Satan found his greatest tool
ready availably of God's Word
Most of us have Bibles
Probably more than one
Do we even open it?

Wait
Later
There's a show on I've been wanting to see


2 Thessalonians 11
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion......
 

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Pepper said:
What is your method in reading the Bible for an hour each day? Are you reading it in order, do you randomly pick a new spot every day?
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I am reading in order, right now
But use the concordance to compare texts
That can get involved if something looks conflicting
My aim is to let The Bible prove itself
I always pray for understanding

Have yet to be disappointed
 

chic said:
The bible makes sense to you Gary? Especially the new testament? It leaves me with a lot of questions
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It makes more sense than anything else around
especially now days

What some folks don't quite understand is, the New Testament ties strongly with the Old Testament
It's a fulfillment of the old
Even the disciples didn't get it until much after His resurrection
 
chic said:
It leaves me with a lot of questions
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Does me too
Of which involves study
There's answers

I studied the prophecies of Daniel and The Revelation, and how they tied in.
Fascinating stuff
The 2300 days
Nebuchadnezzars dream
The end times
It's all playing out, and has played out with great precision

I've enjoyed reading the Gospels of Matthew thru John
and how Jesus handled the Pharisees and Sadducees
They were much like the churches of today
 
Gary O' said:
It makes more sense than anything else around
especially now days

What some folks don't quite understand is, the New Testament ties strongly with the Old Testament
It's a fulfillment of the old
Even the disciples didn't get it until much after His resurrection
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I always wonder why Jesus didn't write something himself. He would have been literate. And why did it take anybody thirty plus years to write anything about his life instead of just word of mouth? This makes me uncomfortable. :unsure:
 
chic said:
The bible makes sense to you Gary? Especially the new testament? It leaves me with a lot of questions. :unsure:
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Gary O' said:
Does me too...Of which involves study. There's answers. I studied the prophecies of Daniel and The Revelation, and how they tied in. Fascinating stuff
The 2300 days. Nebuchadnezzars dream. The end times. It's all playing out, and has played out with great precision...
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Gary O' said:
It makes more sense than anything else around...especially now days...the New Testament ties strongly with the Old Testament...It's a fulfillment of the old...
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My late husband became a strong believer after studying the fulfillment of prophecies throughout history from the Old Testament to the New and even today. My husband would say, "there's just no way this many prophecies could possibly be filled with 100% accuracy from then until now" without it being God's plan.
 
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chic said:
I always wonder why Jesus didn't write something himself. He would have been literate.
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He did
Thru his prophets
chic said:
And why did it take anybody thirty plus years to write anything about his life instead of just word of mouth?
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Word of mouth was much quicker at that time

The disciples were given The Holy Spirit
Nothing more potent than speaking with Tongues of Fire

They spoke in the languages of the people of which came from many nations, even though the disciples didn't know those languages

It spread like wildfire
....as intended
 
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It was comforting to know there was not only a god
but
God
The Creator

It made sense and gave me better understanding when looking up, and seeing the many stars, on a clear night at our mountain cabin

And creation itself

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but

'Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.'
James 2:19 KJV

However, learning of The God of Love, and His forgiveness, gave me a peace

a peace never known

a conversion of thought, aims, desires


'and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.'
Philippians 4:7

That greatly surpasses anything I've ever experienced

I won't soon let that go
 
It's OK to believe that, but one needs to understand that knowing and believing are not the same thing.
You can't know that unless you have seen God, and seen the plan.
Believing something doesn't mean it cannot be true, and even if something works out satisfactorily, it shouldn't be adduced as proof that it was God who worked it out, Sometimes that happens with non-believers as well.
Beliefs are fine if they help you in life and don't harm others. In that case, it doesn't matter whether they can be proven.
 
Jamala said:
According to historians Jesus could not read nor write.
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Q: Could Jesus read and write? From Luke 4:16 we know Jesus could read and John 8:6-8 shows that Jesus could write. This does not mean that Jesus or common folks of that day were what we'd today call literate.
 
PeppermintPatty said:
Q: Could Jesus read and write? From Luke 4:16 we know Jesus could read and John 8:6-8 shows that Jesus could write. This does not mean that Jesus or common folks of that day were what we'd today call literate.
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Totally messing with you. 😂
I don’t know anything about the Bible
I’ve just always wanted to do that. ☺️
 
The majority of people in the time of Jesus were illiterate Those who could read were from wealthy, elite, upper class families. And every piece of biblical evidence we have about his social status suggests that Jesus was a craftsman.

Jewish literature that was composed around the same time explicitly mentions that carpenters were not part of the elite At the time of Jesus, most people were functionally illiterate and could not read or write at all.

The disciples could not read or write either and related what Jesus said to the Scribes who were the educated ones and who were proficient in reading and writing.
 
PeppermintPatty said:
Q: Could Jesus read and write? From Luke 4:16 we know Jesus could read and John 8:6-8 shows that Jesus could write.
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Correct

'And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read'

'This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.'
 
Gary O' said:
I am reading in order, right now
But use the concordance to compare texts
That can get involved if something looks conflicting
My aim is to let The Bible prove itself
I always pray for understanding

Have yet to be disappointed
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I remember my son had a concordance and mentioned to me that certain books of the Bible had been omitted from the versions we read today. Have you come across that information?
 
Gary O' said:
Correct

'And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read'

'This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.'
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Well look at me. Getting Bible verses right. 😅
 
OneEyedDiva said:
I remember my son had a concordance and mentioned to me that certain books of the Bible had been omitted from the versions we read today. Have you come across that information?
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I have heard that
I've pretty much stayed with the KJV for that reason, and it's held closer to Hebrew and Greek translations
 
chic said:
How do you feel about the title "God has a plan"? And do you think His plan should be shared with us so we could cope better with life's slings and arrows?
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Well, as an agnostic I doubt there is a God, and certainly don't believe in any plan.

But who knows, I could be wrong. And I know believing makes a lot of folks feel better.
 
Alligatorob said:
Well, as an agnostic I doubt there is a God, and certainly don't believe in any plan.

But who knows, I could be wrong. And I know believing makes a lot of folks feel better.
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There's always been a struggle. Free Will vs. Predestination! I believe that God will bring all of humanity to a satisfactory place some time in the future, but within His plan we have the freedom to make our own choices. Don't remind me that it's a paradox! Maybe people, here and there are a bit less free and are being guided to influence things in order to bring the plan to filfillment! I really don't have an answer! Just hope and trust!
 

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