Gonna get a 2nd booster ?

No more Covid shots for us! My research shows that the CDC is withholding data on problems associated with the shots and the number of deaths associated with them. I don't trust any of it anymore! Fool me once, shame on you! Fool me twice, shame on me!
Heard so much trash and deaths of these jabs ………the covid won’t kill you, but these vaccines will in time !!
 
Watched world news tonight and saw it looks like that they've approved a second booster for folks over fifty and those that are immunocompromised.

Mama and I both had our third / booster Pfizer shot on 9-23-2021 and other than a tender arm for a few days we experienced no side effects......we're kicking around getting the second booster but haven't made our minds up one way or the other as of yet.

For those that had the first three shots do you plan on getting the fourth ?

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/03/30/1089503225/2nd-booster-covid-vaccine
I get mine tomorrow. I'm healthy and fit for my age. But, I am in a skilled nursing facility daily and I think it is wise for me to get the booster. None of my vaccines has caused me any problems either.
 
Watched world news tonight and saw it looks like that they've approved a second booster for folks over fifty and those that are immunocompromised.

Mama and I both had our third / booster Pfizer shot on 9-23-2021 and other than a tender arm for a few days we experienced no side effects......we're kicking around getting the second booster but haven't made our minds up one way or the other as of yet.

For those that had the first three shots do you plan on getting the fourth ?

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/03/30/1089503225/2nd-booster-covid-vaccine
I had two Moderna shots and a Moderna booster so far. I'm open to getting a second booster, but am in no rush to do it. My booster was on 11/1/21. I think if I get a second booster it will be a Pfizer.
 
Not for me……..ive not had any , and don’t intend getting any either …..

The same for me, no shots, no mask, always shop with no mask, no extra precautions, exercise up to two hours every morning with regular hard workouts, haven't been sick for quite a long time and never from a virus.

Why some people would willingly inject well known poisons into their bodies and restrict their breathing makes no sense.
People long addicted to drugs and injections is exactly what happens in the homeless encampments.

See the parallels?
When people put poisons in their bodies, their minds are poisoned as well, and anyone who does that is not healthy.
 
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The same for me, no shots, no mask, always shop with no mask, no extra precautions, exercise up to two hours every morning with regular hard workouts, haven't been sick for quite a long time and never from a virus.

Why some people would willingly inject well known poisons into their bodies and restrict their breathing makes no sense.

We could probably agree on exercise and nutrition if you weren't so quick to declare your disdain for science.

I think I am pretty fit... work out 6 times a week... and still wore a mask to protect myself and OTHER people during the height of COVID. I also got the vaccine and booster. Do I consider myself healthy? Hell yeah. But I chose not to take any chances and to follow the science.

IMO, the poison minds in this forum are much worse than any poison in any vaccine. ;)


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We could probably agree on exercise and nutrition if you weren't so quick to declare your disdain for science.

I think I am pretty fit... work out 6 times a week... and still wore a mask to protect myself and OTHER people during the height of COVID. I also got the vaccine and booster. Do I consider myself healthy? Hell yeah. But I chose not to take any chances and to follow the science.

IMO, the poison minds in this forum are much worse than any poison in any vaccine. ;)


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The same for me, no shots, no mask, always shop with no mask, no extra precautions, exercise up to two hours every morning with regular hard workouts, haven't been sick for quite a long time and never from a virus.

Why some people would willingly inject well known poisons into their bodies and restrict their breathing makes no sense.
I'm pretty much the same. Haven't done anything different during the past two years except no arena events. I'm concerned about negative reactions from the vaccine that could occur in a year or two or three or more that people don't know about.

The vaccine will become an annual event. All these boosters have me concerned for people's immune systems. This is why we have so many variants. And it will continue if people keep getting more shots. It wasn't intended to be used the way it is. It was supposed to help with the alpha strain but with flu viruses the virus can and does change and the immune system will only protect against the strain the vaccine was developed to protect against in the first place but leaves people even more vulnerable to variants as we've seen in recent months.
 
I had two Moderna shots and a Moderna booster so far. I'm open to getting a second booster, but am in no rush to do it. My booster was on 11/1/21. I think if I get a second booster it will be a Pfizer.


Just remember that this subvariant of Omicron has hit China very hard and now it is in California. Very contagious. Just like the first wave of Omicron, will sweep entire country...and soon.

If you are not amiss to taking the shots generally...and your doctor does not oppose getting the second booster...I would go for sooner, rather than later. Have that immunity fully up when Omicron hits.

My wife had open heart surgery in 2019.

We both got Omicron in January. Was very hard on both of us (I have a range of medical problems, including serious ones). Her pulmonologist basically said, that if she had not had her shots and the booster, it probably would have been life threatening for her.
 
We could probably agree on exercise and nutrition if you weren't so quick to declare your disdain for science.

I think I am pretty fit... work out 6 times a week... and still wore a mask to protect myself and OTHER people during the height of COVID. I also got the vaccine and booster. Do I consider myself healthy? Hell yeah. But I chose not to take any chances and to follow the science.

IMO, the poison minds in this forum are much worse than any poison in any vaccine. ;)


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That is your choice dseag, i also agree with john cycling ……
as for protecting ”OTHERS” If others had obeyed the rules in the first place ,when we had our first lockdown, it would not of come to all this mask wearing , vaccines, 6ft distances etc etc…..
just in our small road , people were , still having parties, having their hair cut , and totally ignoring any rules !! Yes protect yourself and stay as safe as you can, but others ? That’s down to them ,im afraid …….
 
We could probably agree on exercise and nutrition if you weren't so quick to declare your disdain for science.

I think I am pretty fit... work out 6 times a week... and still wore a mask to protect myself and OTHER people during the height of COVID. I also got the vaccine and booster. Do I consider myself healthy? Hell yeah. But I chose not to take any chances and to follow the science.

IMO, the poison minds in this forum are much worse than any poison in any vaccine. ;)
I agree with all you said here, including the last sentence. You are healthy, fit and intelligent. If there were more people like you, this country would be in much better shape now in 2022 and there would not be so many families now mourning their dead loved ones.

I thank you and all others who acted responsibly throughout this fight against COVID-19. Special thanks to all the nurses, doctors and first responders whose lives have also been turned upside down trying to keep up with all the infections and the anti-vaxx, anti-mask mentality. Thankfully most of this country were strong, united and acted as adults.
 
I'm pretty much the same. Haven't done anything different during the past two years except no arena events. I'm concerned about negative reactions from the vaccine that could occur in a year or two or three or more that people don't know about.

The vaccine will become an annual event. All these boosters have me concerned for people's immune systems. This is why we have so many variants. And it will continue if people keep getting more shots. It wasn't intended to be used the way it is. It was supposed to help with the alpha strain but with flu viruses the virus can and does change and the immune system will only protect against the strain the vaccine was developed to protect against in the first place but leaves people even more vulnerable to variants as we've seen in recent months.
Exactly. There are so many autoimmune diseases affecting so many people, (MS, etc.) I avoid anything that can cause the immune system to be confused & attack what it should protect.
There is a reason vaccine makers are immune from litigation when their vaccine causes harm.
 
Yes, I'll probably get the second booster next week....

Once again, America is in denial about signs of a fresh Covid wave​

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...s-in-denial-about-signs-of-a-fresh-covid-wave

Once again, America is in denial about signs of a fresh Covid wave
Eric Topol

When it comes to Covid, the United States specializes in denialism. Deny the human-to-human transmission of the virus when China’s first cases were publicized in late 2019. Deny that the virus is airborne. Deny the need for boosters across all adult age groups. There are many more examples, but now one stands out – learning from other countries.
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In the past couple of weeks, the UK and several countries in Europe, including Germany, France and Switzerland, are experiencing a new wave. At least 12 countries, geographically extending from Finland to Greece, are experiencing new increases in cases, some quite marked, such as Austria exceeding its pandemic peak, and Finland with an 85% increase from the prior week. Many of these countries are also showing a rise in hospital admissions.
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Indications within the United States support the idea that new wave is already getting started. Wastewater surveillance is relatively sparse in the United States, but 15% of the 410 sites where it was conducted between 24 February to 10 March 2022 showed a greater than 1000% increase compared with the prior 15-day period. Also, the BA.2 variant is gaining steam in the United States and is now accounting for more than 30% of new cases.

The root cause for the new wave is hard to pin down. Certainly, the BA.2 variant is known to have increased transmission, at least about 30% more than its sister lineage, Omicron BA.1. With the concomitant reduction of mitigation restrictions and waning immunity protection of vaccines, that transmission advantage will increase. This “BA.2 triad” of factors is thus hard to dissect, as they are clearly interdependent. Rather than focusing on what precisely is driving the new wave, the imperative is to drive some preventive action.

As with the first five warnings from the UK and Europe, the United States did not take heed. Instead of proactively gearing up with non-pharmaceutical interventions (masks, quality of masks, distancing, air filtration, ventilation, aggressive testing, etc.), it just reacted to the surges when they were manifest. Now we are at a point with very low vaccination and booster rates, only 64% of the populations has had two shots, and 29% three shots. That puts the United States at 65th and 70th in the world ranking of countries, respectively.
 
The CDC updated its Covid Community Levels map on Thursday, showing areas where Covid is at a “high” (orange), “medium” (yellow), or “low” (green) risk.

Seventeen counties nationwide are at high risk.

My county is one of the orange high-risk counties on the updated list. The local infection rate is now above 9% while the state infection rate is in the 2% range. We are being encouraged by the CDC to wear masks in public places.

I'm not worried, but I am curious to know why things are different in my area. Contact tracing has been more or less abandoned, so I'm afraid we will never get a good explanation.
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I’m for the next shot when it’s available. With my breathing problems, it would be foolish not to.
I have breathing problems also. I am on an oxygen concentrator. Severe asthma. My wife and I both got COVID, Omicron in January. Hit us hard. First four nights had tremendous breathing problems. Just stayed on the concentrator. Took hours for the breathing to calm down. Without that concentrator, I would have been in the hospital. And even with it, I was close to having to go in.

And if the concentrator did not work and I went in? Good chance would never have come out.

My wife had open heart surgery in 2019. Her pulmonologist did not say it specifically, but implied that if she had not had her 2 vaccines and a booster, she probably would be dead.
 

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