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Tell me what you think of this conversation. It is really good...and these to very intelligent people cover this subject in a truthful civil way.
Guy McPherson and Kevin Hester Chat about the "abrupt climate event" occurring now
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Paco Dennis
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I posted this video to a website forum that is very interested in Global warming, and it's increasing threat to our planet. This video shows Guy McPherson who became infamous with his "Nature Bats Last" podcast shortly announcement of the new age we have entered...the Anthropocene and the announcement of the 6th mass extinction event we are now in. This was about 15 years ago. Dr. McPherson was very controversial even with climate scientists because he was such an alarmist.
I think we should be aware of the collapse of our environment/planet in all the forms it takes...including social, economic, family/communities, and health care to name a few. This issue is existential, which makes it very difficult to comment on without sounding negative. Awareness is not negative or positive. It is neutral. This video is alarmist, I know. Here is a reply on the other site about this video I found very interesting.
McPherson forever goes on about aerosol masking.
If aerosol masking is really a 'thing' there would be science to show the effect.
All anyone would have to do is choose a big city and keep track of wind. Measure the temperature on all four sides on the ground and at altitude using balloons. If aerosol masking is significant there will be an observed difference in temperature on downwind sides of the city. Nobody has done this, including McPherson.
McPherson and others forever go on about tipping points. As an engineer who has had to endure feedback theory in coursework I HAVE HAD ENOUGH.
The earth does not have 'tipping points'. There are earth systems which when disrupted will INCREASE warming but NO earth system is strong enough to snap earth into a runaway situation where the earth goes Venus. Including the methane bomb. To do that the feedback equations describing earth systems would have to have stronger mathematical coefficients.
All humans are going to do is make the Earth incapable of feeding our population when the oil runs out. Then wars make us extinct and the earth gets green again.
End of story.
Concentration on tipping points show an ignorance and hubris I am no longer willing to tolerate. McPerson has not been a professor for twenty years, but he still calls himself one. Guy is a professor and Robert Malone claims to have invented mRNA technology.
Purveyors of pseudoscience are always quick to claim credentials.
The arrogance and hubris of the man makes for good dinner theater, and that is it.
When I saw Guy I enjoyed his show. I left him a nice donation as only 3 people showed up. At the time I thought what Guy was doing was raising awareness. I no longer feel that way.
And every time Guy says 'peer reviewed' I want to throw up.
In '1984' George Orwell described the 'Two Minute Hate'. In the book the hate was a mandated expression of emotion that manipulated people into hating the 'right' thing. Guy's crowd is a special kind of hater. And in their hate is impotence that can't make change.
Kevin ranted about the ****-you-shema radioactive water. Kevin obviously can't do math because the oceans will dilute the ****ed-up water so much that maybe 1 in a million extra people might get cancer. And then only for a century since tritium has a short half-life.
Catastrophic thinking makes people angry, but this anger does not do any good. It leads to no positive result. Anger can't be sustained and burns out.
Guy McPherson and Kevin Hester Chat
Here is this bloggers home page : K-Dog
I think we should be aware of the collapse of our environment/planet in all the forms it takes...including social, economic, family/communities, and health care to name a few. This issue is existential, which makes it very difficult to comment on without sounding negative. Awareness is not negative or positive. It is neutral. This video is alarmist, I know. Here is a reply on the other site about this video I found very interesting.
McPherson forever goes on about aerosol masking.
If aerosol masking is really a 'thing' there would be science to show the effect.
All anyone would have to do is choose a big city and keep track of wind. Measure the temperature on all four sides on the ground and at altitude using balloons. If aerosol masking is significant there will be an observed difference in temperature on downwind sides of the city. Nobody has done this, including McPherson.
McPherson and others forever go on about tipping points. As an engineer who has had to endure feedback theory in coursework I HAVE HAD ENOUGH.
The earth does not have 'tipping points'. There are earth systems which when disrupted will INCREASE warming but NO earth system is strong enough to snap earth into a runaway situation where the earth goes Venus. Including the methane bomb. To do that the feedback equations describing earth systems would have to have stronger mathematical coefficients.
All humans are going to do is make the Earth incapable of feeding our population when the oil runs out. Then wars make us extinct and the earth gets green again.
End of story.
Concentration on tipping points show an ignorance and hubris I am no longer willing to tolerate. McPerson has not been a professor for twenty years, but he still calls himself one. Guy is a professor and Robert Malone claims to have invented mRNA technology.
Purveyors of pseudoscience are always quick to claim credentials.
The arrogance and hubris of the man makes for good dinner theater, and that is it.
When I saw Guy I enjoyed his show. I left him a nice donation as only 3 people showed up. At the time I thought what Guy was doing was raising awareness. I no longer feel that way.
And every time Guy says 'peer reviewed' I want to throw up.
In '1984' George Orwell described the 'Two Minute Hate'. In the book the hate was a mandated expression of emotion that manipulated people into hating the 'right' thing. Guy's crowd is a special kind of hater. And in their hate is impotence that can't make change.
Kevin ranted about the ****-you-shema radioactive water. Kevin obviously can't do math because the oceans will dilute the ****ed-up water so much that maybe 1 in a million extra people might get cancer. And then only for a century since tritium has a short half-life.
Catastrophic thinking makes people angry, but this anger does not do any good. It leads to no positive result. Anger can't be sustained and burns out.
Guy McPherson and Kevin Hester Chat
Here is this bloggers home page : K-Dog