Had a conversation with an acquaintance who lives in Russia

I'm getting a tummy ache!
And so does Vlad...the mad Lad!
Hope everyone has a great day.
Ray.
 

Murrmurr said:
He said it was "no matter", that we have no control over it anyway, but that goodness would ultimately triumph over this evil.

Then he sent me a link to this incredible animated video. (13 minutes)

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This is probably the weirdest thing I've ever seen and the sound track is mind numbing, but, what does it all mean ??? It is definitely dark and disturbing. I did do a screen grab of one frame that I thought very clever:

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raymondwallace said:
Oh boy!
To quote Michael Corleone, just when I think I'm out, they pull me back in.
Now there's a big mess between Lithuania and Russia.
Does anyone have some liquid paper?
Perhaps if we white out Kaliningrad from a Europe map there won't be problems anymore.
Peace please!
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/21/why-is-kaliningrad-row-russia-lithuania

"The bellicose language of retaliation from the Kremlin has gone up a gear. Moscow is blockading Ukrainian ports and creating a global food crisis that could kill millions. Russia’s security council chief, Nikolai Patrushev, said on Tuesday that there would be “serious consequences” for Lithuanians “in the near future”. The EU has called for calm and a diplomatic solution."

Putin does not want diplomatic solutions. It's all about power and greed. He must be stopped, because he will not stop at the Ukraine. Making concessions to him will only embolden him, in my opinion.
 

Em in Ohio said:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/21/why-is-kaliningrad-row-russia-lithuania

"The bellicose language of retaliation from the Kremlin has gone up a gear. Moscow is blockading Ukrainian ports and creating a global food crisis that could kill millions. Russia’s security council chief, Nikolai Patrushev, said on Tuesday that there would be “serious consequences” for Lithuanians “in the near future”. The EU has called for calm and a diplomatic solution."

Putin does not want diplomatic solutions. It's all about power and greed. He must be stopped, because he will not stop at the Ukraine. Making concessions to him will only embolden him, in my opinion.
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I wholeheartedly agree, he must be stopped, I think our president has waited long enough, and I am grateful he has stopped and not get us in another war, but weather we intervene or not, I feel Putin is either way ready to keep attacking other countries and ready to use WMD's.
Perhaps I am rushing to judgement, perhaps I am letting the situation get the best of me, but in this scenario, we have a 50/50 chance of not coming up that bad if we attack first?
My apologies, but on this occasion I rather be the first to throw a stone and hide my hand.
 
Pepper said:
If it weren't for nuclear, we should have gone in, with NATO, at the very beginning. We don't need WWIII. Don't want full scale war over this.
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Agreed,
I am a pacifist, not afraid of confrontation, I speak softly but carry a big and heavy stick.
Murrmurr I watched the 13 minute video Dan sent you. Interesting, in my own interpretation of it I get it.
Greed, power control, the poisoning of society. That all been there, (I write this with the outmost respect to everybody including Dan.
We are all aware of the meaning of the video, but I truly a respectfully DN, I hope you are reading this and your English has improved. We get it, we had been aware of it since December 7 1941 and reminded on November 22 1963, September 11 2001 etc, etc, I get it, and wished a lot of people would get it, (not my intention to create a conspiracy theory blog) yeah there are a lot o times our society had and is been treated like children, and they keep us numbed with TV shows and other media to become obedient and not start riots, but we had shown we can get tired and we can wake up at any moment and create a revolution that will change our current situation, that is the difference between other's country and ours, others, are still being controlled by theirs, to the point that you are afraid to react and respond, no matter what's current here, we still all have tasted a little something called FREEDOM, of speech and of action, once you experience it you will be able to oppose tyranny and oppression, I invite you to try it.
 
Em in Ohio said:
This is probably the weirdest thing I've ever seen and the sound track is mind numbing, but, what does it all mean ??? It is definitely dark and disturbing. I did do a screen grab of one frame that I thought very clever:
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What I saw was corporate elites colluding with political elites to control a population by using diversions, various means of instant gratification, self-numbing substances, and "relieving them" of basic responsibilities. But part of the population has an epiphany; they discover the truth, recognize the evil, and defeat it.
 
The Ukraine has not been accepted into NATO as of yet. If and when they are, we still won't know the depth of resolve of member nations. It may be too little, too late. It already is for so many people, both Ukrainian and Russian.
 
Murrmurr said:
What I saw was corporate elites colluding with political elites to control a population by using diversions, various means of instant gratification, self-numbing substances, and "relieving them" of basic responsibilities. But part of the population has an epiphany; they discover the truth, recognize the evil, and defeat it.
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Thanks, Murrmurr - I was actually making a weak attempt at sarcastic humor. But, did you pick up on the 'adam and eve,' tree of life, heaven and hell part toward the end? I guess that was to be the hopeful part. Since I'm not religious, "The End" would come before this scene and be final. Woe is me.
 
Em in Ohio said:
Thanks, Murrmurr - I was actually making a weak attempt at sarcastic humor. But, did you pick up on the 'adam and eve,' tree of life, heaven and hell part toward the end? I guess that was to be the hopeful part. Since I'm not religious, "The End" would come before this scene and be final. Woe is me.
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Oh. You'd think I'd have recognized that. :p

I did recognize the biblical aspects of the video. Dan, the guy the OP is about, and who sent me the link, is devoutly religious, so the ending is obviously very affirming for him.

" "The End" would come before this scene and be final. " Yeah, I read the Book of Revelations/New Testament, and if I remember right, the so-called final battle bx good and evil comes after the rapture and before the last judgement. Not being religious myself, I watched it from - shall we say - a more earthly perspective.
 
raymondwallace said:
I wholeheartedly agree, he must be stopped, I think our president has waited long enough, and I am grateful he has stopped and not get us in another war, but weather we intervene or not, I feel Putin is either way ready to keep attacking other countries and ready to use WMD's.
Perhaps I am rushing to judgement, perhaps I am letting the situation get the best of me, but in this scenario, we have a 50/50 chance of not coming up that bad if we attack first?
My apologies, but on this occasion I rather be the first to throw a stone and hide my hand.
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As long as the stone is aimed at the head! In the thread about the 'looming' invasion, I posted an analogy. To kill a rattle snake, it does no good to cut off the rattle. You have to remove the head. (Not exact wording, but...)
 

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