You said it. Some people want to know who's vaccinated to pass judgment & also to feel superior.
Half Of Americans Have Natural Immunity
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StarSong
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This may explain why he's playing it coy:
By his own words Jon Douglas got the J & J vaccine on April 7th and suffered no serious side effects. Posts #404 & #407.
Since then he's posted a steady stream of negative articles about Covid vaccines without including the caveat that he opted in favor of a vaccine for himself.
Because of this and other nonsense, I have him on ignore. Just figured I'd keep the record straight.
https://www.seniorforums.com/thread...or-vaccination-yet.56876/page-17#post-1691601
AnnieA
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It could be but I haven't read that there's research into that yet. Breakthrough cases can be explained by the fact that some people just do not produce antibodies to vaccines. The obese and elderly lead that category and unfortunately are at highest risk. Some people don't produce them who don't fall into the usual categories of poor response. In dialysis, we were required to get Hep B vaccines and antibody testing; there were a handful of otherwise fit, healthy staff who had gotten all three rounds and showed zero antibodies.
AnnieA
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lol... I'm good with huffy.
No fire for that. About the only thing that'll draw fire is the 'c' word and you don't seem to be the kind of guy who would use that.
JonDouglas
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I appreciate your having me on ignore. Thanks. As for being anti-vaccine, you couldn't more wrong. With all the pro-vaccine information, agenda pushing and virtue signaling going on, I like to point out other viewpoints, especially on potential dangers and the subject of natural. If I had been negative on vaccination, I wouldn't have gotten it. We understand that such an approach might be too difficult for some to understand but it is what it is. I would suggest she who has me ignore might have better things to do than ankle biting those who don't fit in her agenda or mindset. Oh, in case you're reading this, please put me back on ignore as this message wasn't meant for you.
To begin with, I was waiting to see how safe the 2 vaccines available were. I was and others waiting were laughed at and called a coward for waiting, told to go hide etc. Then the J&J vaccine became available, but not near me yet and I was waiting to have more info on it, I trusted the J&J over the other 2. I decided to get the J&J vaccine, then there were some issues with it also. I had an appointment with my Dr. who said she was not comfortable advising me to have any of the vaccines. That took the option off the table for me. Now all during this time I and others were called names, cowards, ant-vax, non caring, non patriotic etc, and trying to shame others for not getting the vaccine.
I believe everyone has the right to choose for themselves. I don't understand why it bothers those who were vaccinated to see articles posted here that are information regarding the vaccines. I don't know why they cannot have a discussion without the name calling and innuendos.
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By being an intelligent independent thinker, you're unintentionally undermining people's confidence in their choice to get the "Cure-All"
vaccine - confidence that's weak to begin with.
And many people gain confidence when others make the same decision they made.
Gaer
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To ridicule men of sense is the privilege of fools.
This was/is a strikingly interesting thread. Must it be necessary to attack the poster?
This was/is a strikingly interesting thread. Must it be necessary to attack the poster?
IrisSenior
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The best thing to do if you don't believe what someone posts is to just ignore their posts unless, of course, you like responding and arguing and etc. etc.
JonDouglas
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Another related article from Nature: Had COVID? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime
Many people who have been infected with SARS-CoV-2 will probably make antibodies against the virus for most of their lives. So suggest researchers who have identified long-lived antibody-producing cells in the bone marrow of people who have recovered from COVID-191.
The study provides evidence that immunity triggered by SARS-CoV-2 infection will be extraordinarily long-lasting. Adding to the good news, “the implications are that vaccines will have the same durable effect”, says Menno van Zelm, an immunologist at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia.
Antibodies — proteins that can recognize and help to inactivate viral particles — are a key immune defence. After a new infection, short-lived cells called plasmablasts are an early source of antibodies.
But these cells recede soon after a virus is cleared from the body, and other, longer-lasting cells make antibodies: memory B cells patrol the blood for reinfection, while bone marrow plasma cells (BMPCs) hide away in bones, trickling out antibodies for decades.
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Just another FYI.