Harriet Tubman $20 dollar bill?

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Aurora

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I heard that this anti slavery lady Harriet Tubman will replace
Andrew Jackson on the twenty in America?

I don't get it! But it figures coming from the Obama administration.

Her work was laudable of course, but how does she compare with
what Jackson accomplished? (Jackson owned slaves as was the custom
back then. I was at his Tennessee home.)
I cannot think of a American woman that truly deserves the honor. It's a great honor.
Why not have "Lady Liberty"
Thomas Jefferson, yes, or Teddy Roosevelt, sure.
Having said that, I expect to hear from women standing up for other women, just on principle.

Besdies, Tubman's work affected a relatively very small number of Americans.
 

Maybe this gives you an idea Aurora, as to why Jackson is getting the boot.....'...Tubman, an African-American and a Union spy during the Civil War, would bump Jackson — a white man known as much for his persecution of Native Americans as for his war heroics and advocacy for the common man...Tubman was its choice — had to go on the more common $20 note, displacing not the popular Hamilton but Jackson, whose place in history has suffered lately with attention to his record of forcibly relocating Native Americans, supporting slavery...' http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/21/us/women-currency-treasury-harriet-tubman.html?_r=0


She was a brave woman, helped in a war that finally saw the slaves freed, and Jackson sounds like a jerk. It sounds like he probably presided over some of the terrible things that happened to the Native Americans and he also supported slavery. Is there any question that he should be replaced by a brave black woman? Not in my mind. Good for whomever decided this, whether it be Obama or Treasury Secretary Jacob Lewis!

As for 'Lady Liberty', good grief, not a woman at all but a metal statue that was gifted to America by France. America didn't even make it.
 
I love the idea of Harriet Tubman replacing Jackson BUT to be honest I wish they'd get rid of the faces altogether and make the bill colors different on the different amounts. I've seen money that was actually pretty. Our money isn't either pretty or practical by making all of it green.
 

Lady Liberty? Really?
Wow
She affeccted more than a few Americans.

'This anti slavery woman'
I think you skipped a few history classes.

The only thing interpreted from your post Aurora,is racism.
 
Just read your link Jackie and I'm awe struck by Harriet Tubman! What a heroic woman she was! She definitely should be honoured. Thanks for sharing that.
 
BlunderWoman said:
I love the idea of Harriet Tubman replacing Jackson BUT to be honest I wish they'd get rid of the faces altogether and make the bill colors different on the different amounts. I've seen money that was actually pretty. Our money isn't either pretty or practical by making all of it green.
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You'd probably like our 'rainbow' money then. It's very pretty with all the colours, just the polymer that they make it out of now is kind of weird. But you'l never mistake a $5 for a $50 because of the different colours.
 
Debby said:
You'd probably like our 'rainbow' money then. It's very pretty with all the colours, just the polymer that they make it out of now is kind of weird. But you'l never mistake a $5 for a $50 because of the different colours.
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I also think money should have a braille chip or something the blind can read.
 
Debby said:
Just read your link Jackie and I'm awe struck by Harriet Tubman! What a heroic woman she was! She definitely should be honoured. Thanks for sharing that.
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Aurora said:
I heard that this anti slavery lady Harriet Tubman will replace
Andrew Jackson on the twenty in America?
I cannot think of a American woman that truly deserves the honor. It's a great honor.
Why not have "Lady Liberty"
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So agree, Debbie ! ! ! Am I reading some misogyny in this, Aurora?
 
I agree that Tubman is a good choice. On the Today show earlier this morning one of the hosts asked Trump about it and he didn't support the idea. Said Jackson was a great man, accomplished many great things and that maybe we should create a new denomination.....such as a $2 bill and put Tubman on that. No one told him that there already is a $2 bill, but I think Trump bungled the answer. Jackson does seem to be less deserving compared with Tubman. Maybe we drop him down to the $2 bill. :)
 
An anti-slavery humanitarian replaces a pro-slavery Native American killer, sounds to me like America is finally doing something right, quite an appropriate change IMO. Of course Harriet Tubman deserves to be on our twenty dollar bill!

http://www.vox.com/2016/4/20/11469514/andrew-jackson-indian-removal

After generations of pro-Jackson historians left out Jackson's role in American Indian removal — the forced, bloody transfer of tens of thousands of Native Americans from the South — a recent reevaluation has rightfully put that crime at the core of his legacy.

But Jackson is even worse than his horrifyingly brutal record with regard to Native Americans indicates. Indian removal was not just a crime against humanity, it was a crime against humanity intended to abet another crime against humanity: By clearing the Cherokee from the American South, Jackson hoped to open up more land for cultivation by slave plantations.

He owned hundreds of slaves, and in 1835 worked with his postmaster general to censor anti-slavery mailings from northern abolitionists. The historian Daniel Walker Howe writes that Jackson, "expressed his loathing for the abolitionists vehemently, both in public and in private."
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http://www.history.com/topics/native-american-history/trail-of-tears


The law required the government to negotiate removal treaties fairly, voluntarily and peacefully: It did not permit the president or anyone else to coerce Native nations into giving up their land.

However, President Jackson and his government frequently ignored the letter of the law and forced Native Americans to vacate lands they had lived on for generations.

In the winter of 1831, under threat of invasion by the U.S. Army, the Choctaw became the first nation to be expelled from its land altogether.

They made the journey to Indian territory on foot (some “bound in chains and marched double file,” one historian writes) and without any food, supplies or other help from the government. Thousands of people died along the way. It was, one Choctaw leader told an Alabama newspaper, a “trail of tears and death.”
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Aurora said:
I cannot think of a American woman that truly deserves the honor. It's a great honor.
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This comment of yours haunts me. I'm bothered by it. Please do some studying up on the great contributions of American women to America. I'm going to begin a thread on this subject in the general section.
 
BlunderWoman said:
I love the idea of Harriet Tubman replacing Jackson BUT to be honest I wish they'd get rid of the faces altogether and make the bill colors different on the different amounts. I've seen money that was actually pretty. Our money isn't either pretty or practical by making all of it green.
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I don't know ... years ago I read a book about America written for visitors from other countries. Among other things, it mentioned that all our folding money was the same color and size, yet we seemed to have no problem distinguishing a five from a ten from a one, etc. I thought, hey, we are cool! We can read numbers and words, whereas apparently everyone else has to just know colors!

Of course I didn't think that seriously. But it tickled me that the author of the book implied that Americans are intelligent because we can. Later on I thought it was interesting when they started tinting one of the denominations -- the $20 bill?
 
She was selected due to present PC concerns and the fact that she is not only a woman, but a black woman. Give it time and we will see a Hispanic and Asian similarly honored. We of course have the NATIVE AMERICAN relegated to the lowly NICKEL.
 
Debby said:
Maybe this gives you an idea Aurora, as to why Jackson is getting the boot.....'...Tubman, an African-American and a Union spy during the Civil War, would bump Jackson — a white man known as much for his persecution of Native Americans as for his war heroics and advocacy for the common man...Tubman was its choice — had to go on the more common $20 note, displacing not the popular Hamilton but Jackson, whose place in history has suffered lately with attention to his record of forcibly relocating Native Americans, supporting slavery...' http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/21/us/women-currency-treasury-harriet-tubman.html?_r=0


She was a brave woman, helped in a war that finally saw the slaves freed, and Jackson sounds like a jerk. It sounds like he probably presided over some of the terrible things that happened to the Native Americans and he also supported slavery. Is there any question that he should be replaced by a brave black woman? Not in my mind. Good for whomever decided this, whether it be Obama or Treasury Secretary Jacob Lewis!

As for 'Lady Liberty', good grief, not a woman at all but a metal statue that was gifted to America by France. America didn't even make it.
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Bravo Debby!
 
Manatee said:
Tubman was never mentioned in any of the history classes that I took.
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Your response made me really search my memory for what black history I was actually taught. The only individual I can remember was W. E. Du Bios. in a literature class. It was not until later, in college, that actual black history was included.
 
I have no objections of putting Tubman on a $20 bill, but I wish they'd leave the money the way it is now, REGARDLESS
of the legacy of the men who are on the bills now. I'm used to them and would hate to lose any money by a mistake
due to a change in appearance.
 
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