Have we lost the ability to know the truth?

Jamala said:
I beg to differ. The only "absolute truth" is a mathematical truth!
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I’m not a mathematician but this statement bothers me. Math is just a tool and its application may always produce the same result but it doesn't mean it has solved the problem correctly!
 

Pepper said:
He didn't Bring us the American Way, he followed the American Way.
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Maybe, but it does call into question some things about one of my early heroes. I assume he was not documented, which would mean that Clark Kent would have had to use a fake social security number to get his job at the Daily Planet... not very truthful.

And I doubt Superman took a legal route to citizenship, his birth on Krypton and suspicious entry into the county would surely have raised question on his applications. If he had followed a legal route it would have compromised his confidentiality.

Was he to blame for making illegal immigration the "American Way"?

Too many questions...
 
Hey! This was the 1930's, no comparison to today. Clark had no BC either, but if a fake one were made it would face what little scrutiny there was back then. He got his SS number just by filing for one, just like we did 30 years later. He was an innocent baby when his little space ship arrived, was a foundling and the Kents found him.

We didn't have to prove everything till after 9/11. Everything was easy to get & do before that.
 
I watched a documentary awhile ago about how the three networks use to lose money with their nightly news broadcasts but the networks were not concerned about the loss of money because they felt it was an obligation to spend money on the news division. But then CNN and later Fox news came about and the game changed because they were both out to make money and the networks could not compete with them. News stopped being informative and became entertainment for many. Sorry, I don't remember the name of the documentary so can't cite the source but that was the general theme about the decline of the nightly network news programs.

With that being said, there have always been media moguls such as William Randolph Heart who pushed their agenda through different types of media outlets such as newspapers and radio stations. Disinformation has always been around but like many others have pointed out here there are many different ways for it to be pushed now and it is easily accessible by everyone.

The good thing is that sites such as The Guardian are also easily accessed for those who do wish to dig deeper about the news and try to find what is legitimate and what isn't.
 
perChance said:
In Canada a lot of the 'news' are propped up with government money.
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Does it worry you that the government is involved with funding the news? It would me.
MarkinPhx said:
I watched a documentary awhile ago about how the three networks use to lose money with their nightly news broadcasts but the networks were not concerned about the loss of money because they felt it was an obligation to spend money on the news division. But then CNN and later Fox news came about and the game changed because they were both out to make money and the networks could not compete with them. News stopped being informative and became entertainment for many. Sorry, I don't remember the name of the documentary so can't cite the source but that was the general theme about the decline of the nightly network news programs.
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I am sure that is true. Not sure what we can or should do about it...
 
The "TV" news...local, national and cable is little more than endless commercials. It's all a "contest" to sensationalize events so as to increase the viewership and the advertising revenues. The nonsense that appears on the various "social media" sites is even worse....little more than warped individual opinions. Today, a person has to sort out ton's of misinformation just trying to find out what is really happening.
 
MarkinPhx said:
I watched a documentary awhile ago about how the three networks use to lose money with their nightly news broadcasts but the networks were not concerned about the loss of money because they felt it was an obligation to spend money on the news division. But then CNN and later Fox news came about and the game changed because they were both out to make money and the networks could not compete with them. News stopped being informative and became entertainment for many. Sorry, I don't remember the name of the documentary so can't cite the source but that was the general theme about the decline of the nightly network news programs.

With that being said, there have always been media moguls such as William Randolph Heart who pushed their agenda through different types of media outlets such as newspapers and radio stations. Disinformation has always been around but like many others have pointed out here there are many different ways for it to be pushed now and it is easily accessible by everyone.

The good thing is that sites such as The Guardian are also easily accessed for those who do wish to dig deeper about the news and try to find what is legitimate and what isn't.
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You can thank Ronald Reagan's repeal of The Fairness Doctrine for that.

The fairness doctrine of the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC), introduced in 1949, was a policy that required the holders of broadcast licenses both to present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that fairly reflected differing viewpoints.[1] In 1987, the FCC abolished the fairness doctrine,[2] prompting some to urge its reintroduction through either Commission policy or congressional legislation.[3] However, later the FCC removed the rule that implemented the policy from the Federal Register in August 2011.[4]

The fairness doctrine had two basic elements: It required broadcasters to devote some of their airtime to discussing controversial matters of public interest, and to air contrasting views regarding those matters. Stations were given wide latitude as to how to provide contrasting views: It could be done through news segments, public affairs shows, or editorials. The doctrine did not require equal time for opposing views but required that contrasting viewpoints be presented. The demise of this FCC rule has been cited as a contributing factor in the rising level of party polarization in the United States.[5][6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC_fairness_doctrine
 
Alligatorob said:
Does it worry you that the government is involved with funding the news? It would me.

I am sure that is true. Not sure what we can or should do about it...
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Welcome to "Operation: Mockingbird"

Operation Mockingbird is an alleged large-scale program of the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that began in the early years of the Cold War and attempted to manipulate domestic American news media organizations for propaganda purposes. According to author Deborah Davis, Operation Mockingbird recruited leading American journalists into a propaganda network and influenced the operations of front groups.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird
 
SeniorBen said:
Some people are too lazy to read the news any more. If it's not in a video, they don't want to look at it.

Some people don't want to be exposed to any facts that don't comport with their world view, so they get their news filtered through websites and news broadcasts that tell them what to believe, who to hate, and what to be outraged over.

For the rest, there are legitimate news outlets, and they're not hard to find.

I've been reading The Guardian for the past few years. It's a British news organization but they have a U.S. version. They're not quite as corporatized as U.S. news media and not run by Wall St.
https://www.theguardian.com/us
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Yes, I prefer the Guardian to CNN any day or night!
 
Truth is what we value from a trusted source. My dad was a preacher and I grew up in the church, this meant my trusted sources for understanding the world were limited to religion, church, and parents. That's it, Imagine my surprise when my world got bigger?
 

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