Have you been following the trial of the "Rust" film armorer?

Also interested when Alec Baldwin goes to trial. Yes, I feel badly for the young woman, but she was careless and it seems it was she who brought live ammo to the set. A beautiful woman is dead due to this carelessness. I don't think the armorer needs jail time; community service would be more suitable, IMO. Perhaps she will even be blacklisted by the industry.
 
Blacklisted? Well, yeah. I think that's the least of her worries. Now she's a convicted felon. She has supportive parents so she is luckier than many people who get into trouble.
 

VintageBetter said:
Blacklisted? Well, yeah. I think that's the least of her worries. Now she's a convicted felon. She has supportive parents so she is luckier than many people who get into trouble.
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I think she's going to be ok. I'm sure she won't be racking up any more felony offenses. If she gets any jail time, it probaly won't be much; a few months at most. She'll get several years of probation, and one of the jobs of a PO is to get their clients into programs that help felons get work and careers.

Youth is on her side, too.
 
I've been watching the trial. She has seemed bored and sullen throughout the trial. Witness after witness has reported that she was careless and cavalier from day to day, sometimes seeming drunk or stoned more interested in helping people play with the guns during breaks and posing for selfies than doing her job. A job which was perfectly easy and straight forward.

Her defense lawyers keep emphasizing her youth, but she is a 24 year old woman, older than many young military women who have been soberly serving our country for years. The maximum she might get for her negligence that cost a young mother's life is 18 months. I hope she has to do it all.

Hannah on set:
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Ultimately she bares some responsibility but the crew seemed sloppy at times

Did it ever come out where the real bullets came from?
 
Having a very vested interest in this trail, I've been watching it closely... she was/is a nepo baby, should never have been in the position of Armourer in the first place.. addicted to cocaine, bored, lay... and was extremely lackadaisical on set.. she was pretty much the same in court with an attitude and look that read, she was not taking the blame for her own actions, and it was all someone else fault.

I'm actually very sad, that she faces only a maximum of 18 months prison time...
 
IMO, there is no definitive answer to whom supplied the live rounds. She is guilty of manslaughter but another person may be culpable of supplying the live rounds.

"The original investigation by the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office did not reach a conclusion on where the live rounds had come from."

"Speaking outside the courthouse after the verdict on Wednesday, one of the jurors, Alberto Sanchez, said that the jurors had been convinced that Ms. Gutierrez-Reed had brought the live rounds to the set. “We think she did,” he said."

I'm not really sure how they can tell if there is gun powder in a cartridge based on pictures of same which was in large part the state's evidence against her. Some evidence was thrown away and a supplier of some of the rounds business wasn't searched until a month after the shooting.
 
Wasn't Bruce Lee killed on set by a 44-magnum blank round.
Is it time to end realistic firearms that shoot 10,000 rounds without
a reload in movies and TV + all those crazy chase scenes in traffic
+ Helicopter rides like crazy around skyscrapers.
It all can be done now with Ai enactments. Actually, if it hasn't
been put on film by now it really doesn't need to. Reruns, more reruns.
 
"Fatal accidents
Actors in particular are at serious risk of injury from blank cartridges used on movie sets. Several actors have been killed in such mishaps:

Brandon Lee was killed while filming a scene for the 1994 film The Crow by a .44-caliber S&W Model 629 revolver used as a prop that still contained a bullet from a squib load. A dummy round used during an earlier shoot was handloaded by someone other than a firearms expert, who removed the propellant powder, but unknowingly left a live primer in place, resulting in the bullet being separated from its casing with insufficient energy to exit the barrel. The gun was not properly checked for a retained bullet prior to the incident, and then subsequently fired with a blank cartridge. The blank charge propelled the lodged bullet out the barrel, fatally injuring Lee.

Jon-Erik Hexum accidentally killed himself on the set of the TV series Cover Up, after he placed a blank-loaded .44 Magnum revolver to his right temple and pulled the trigger as a joke — the powerful shockwave from the blank cartridge caused a depression fracture to the skull, sending bone fragments deep into his brain and causing severe intracranial hemorrhage. He died a few days after the accident.

Johann Ofner, a professional stunt double, was killed by a shotgun wad in 2017 while filming a scene for Bliss n Eso music video "Dopamine" in the Brooklyn Standard bar in Brisbane when an actor fired directly at him.

In 2015, a 17-year old was playing with a gun used in a St. George, Utah, high school theatre program to be used in a production of Oklahoma! and accidentally killed himself, thinking that "blank" cartridges were harmless."
 
What possible reason could she have had to bring live ammo to the set?! That in of itself is a crime IMO. Why would anyone arm a gun to be used in a scene with live ammo?

She was supposed to be the one to make sure the gun was safe to use and was grossly negligent. Truthfully I keep thinking there was intent to set someone up. And I am not an Alex Baldwin fan.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
What possible reason could she have had to bring live ammo to the set?! That in of itself is a crime IMO. Why would anyone arm a gun to be used in a scene with live ammo?

She was supposed to be the one to make sure the gun was safe to use and was grossly negligent. Truthfully I keep thinking there was intent to set someone up. And I am not an Alex Baldwin fan.
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yes what possible reason indeed. Bear in mind she was coked up most of the time...
 
OneEyedDiva said:
I didn't even hear about that HD!
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oh yes it was talked about many times during the trial, and of course we saw how drugged up when she was recorded on the day of her arrest...slumped in the truck on set..then slouched and confused in the police station during her interview... By the time she came to court, she had the brassy green and yellow colours removed from her hair, cleaned herself up, and looked like butter wouldn't melt...
 
Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, as a young and relatively inexperienced armorer, has been thrust into a nightmare that'll likely haunt her for the rest of her life. She's not only facing the emotional trauma of the accident itself, but also the legal consequences of her role in it.
As for the decision to continue filming "Rust," it's certainly a controversial one. Some argue that finishing the film is a way to honor Halyna Hutchins' memory and the hard work of the entire cast and crew, while others, like yourself, find it difficult to understand why they'd want to revisit such a painful chapter.
It's worth noting that Hutchins' husband, Matthew Hutchins, is now serving as an executive producer on the film, which might provide some insight into the decision to press on. But ultimately, it's a complex and emotionally fraught situation with no easy answers.
 
What I don't understand is why Alec Baldwin is charged with a crime. Yes, he was the producer, but that means he was the person who hired, and coordinated the filming of a script. If he hired a cameraman, and the cameraman screwed up and the camera caught on fire and burnt an actor, why would Baldwin be held responsible? Yeah, he was the guy in charge, but there is a limit to his oversight.If he ordered sandwiches for the crew, was his fault they came with only one slice of pickle and not two? And this is Hollywood, prop guns are on a lot of sets, it's pretty common to have them. So I don't see why Baldwin wouldn't trust the armorer to do her job.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
What I don't understand is why Alec Baldwin is charged with a crime. Yes, he was the producer, but that means he was the person who hired, and coordinated the filming of a script. If he hired a cameraman, and the cameraman screwed up and the camera caught on fire and burnt an actor, why would Baldwin be held responsible? Yeah, he was the guy in charge, but there is a limit to his oversight.If he ordered sandwiches for the crew, was his fault they came with only one slice of pickle and not two? And this is Hollywood, prop guns are on a lot of sets, it's pretty common to have them. So I don't see why Baldwin wouldn't trust the armorer to do her job.
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Plus, an armorer is under the supervision of at least 2 people. It's their responsibility to make sure everything the armorer does meets all safely protocols.
 

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