Have you grown out of telling lies?

Bretrick

Bretrick

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In my youth and my drinking days I lied constantly. But I was always being caught out on those lies.
I eventually realised that lying gets one into too much trouble because, a week or a month later you can not remember the lie. The lie came out in a fleeting moment and was gone.
It was not laid down in your mind so recalling something that is not there is impossible.
Hence being caught out all the time. One can not remember the lie you told to someone 6 months ago, but the person you told the lie to remembers because it was an actual experience that was then laid down in their mind.
I can honestly say I have not lied in at least 22 years now. Since I stopped drinking.
White lies not included.
 

catscan said:
They're the tricky ones aren't they ...
I sometimes wish I'd told a white lie or two when I've told the truth and upset someone or caused them distress.
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See, I'm like that. I have found myself in far more trouble telling the truth than I ever have when telling an occasional lie..

My problem is I'm brutally honest..I can't help it.. It's just part of my nature.. I'm an Archetypal Aries, the most honest sign of the Zodiac...

Online I can reel my brutally honest thoughts in, by thinking before I type and wrapping it up in velvet a little more .. in real life.. I'm just a straightforward honest person, and don't take time to think what I'm about to say...so land myself in trouble a lot..... I absolutely detest liars. I seem to be a magnet for liars
 
hollydolly said:
My problem is I'm brutally honest..I can't help it.. It's just part of my nature.. I'm an Archetypal Aries, the most honest sign of the Zodiac...
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I am an Aries as well. In the past I would tell the truth, because it needed to be said.
Now I am more circumspect, Weighing up whether it is worth getting involved. These day, most times I stay out of situations to keep my sanity.
 
Bretrick said:
I am an Aries as well. In the past I would tell the truth, because it needed to be said.
Now I am more circumspect, Weighing up whether it is worth getting involved. These day, most times I stay out of situations to keep my sanity.
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so you know precisely what I mean..

I do try as much as I can these days to be more circumspect... but I'm a failure at it really.. I'm a born risk taker.
 
Beezer said:
It's the timeless question which has no yes or no answer. It has to be qualified. @David777 didn't mean to shock anybody with that statement...I'm sure of that.
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yes but most questions don't have a simple yes/no answer. Say yes to that question and you're admitting you have beaten your wife..say no.. and then you're admitting you do beat her... both would potentially be a lie... so it needs more than a yes /no reply..

I have never beaten my wife so I cannot have ever stopped... ...
 
Bretrick said:
I am an Aries as well. In the past I would tell the truth, because it needed to be said.
Now I am more circumspect, Weighing up whether it is worth getting involved. These day, most times I stay out of situations to keep my sanity.
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hollydolly said:
so you know precisely what I mean..

I do try as much as I can these days to be more circumspect... but I'm a failure at it really.. I'm a born risk taker.
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Two Aries hey .. my moon is in Aries though my sun sign is Aquarius.
 
David777 said:
Have you stopped beating your wife?

yes/no? ;)
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If he still beats his wife, he will lie and say yes.
Put the question to his wife, Has your husband stopped beating you?, she might tell a white lie to protect he husband because she still loves him, and say yes.
Or she might say, "He only does it to teach me a lesson, for which I am grateful"
 
hollydolly said:
where did that come from ?:oops:
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One of the first taught subjects in college logic and debate 101 classes. His title was a loaded question. :)

wikipedia:

Loaded question - Wikipedia

A loaded question is a form of complex question that contains a controversial assumption (e.g., a presumption of guilt).

Such questions may be used as a rhetorical tool: the question attempts to limit direct replies to be those that serve the questioner's agenda. The traditional example is the question "Have you stopped beating your wife?" Whether the respondent answers yes or no, they will admit to having beaten their wife at some time in the past. Thus, these facts are presupposed by the question, and in this case an entrapment, because it narrows the respondent to a single answer, and the fallacy of many questions has been committed. The fallacy relies upon context for its effect: the fact that a question presupposes something does not in itself make the question fallacious...
 
Yes I have....... providing no overweight woman asks me "Do I look fat in this dress?". Then I will recant my claim.
 

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