Healthy Eyes and What I Do and Use

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jaminhealth

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I just turned 80 and have good eyesight overall. I've been using supplements for well over 25 yrs and these include those for eye health. Specifically what has worked for my good eye health is:

Grape Seed Extract
Lutein and Bilberry
Vitamin C
Crystalline Drops (last 2 yrs)

Interested in reading about the above and eye health, it's out there online.

No cataracts and no other issues.

Wear glasses for reading and those for distance but have used glasses since I was in my 20's.

Vision is clear and I can do well with no glasses on my eyes.

I'm one of those who avoid surgery at all costs, I've had a couple that left me with lifelong complications.


Forgot to add one important item I use: Similasan eye drops for Dry Eyes. It's homeopathic and a true healer in my life. The company makes a product for Computer Eyes too.
 

I used to work in a few health food stores J, and lots of older folks bought these same products for better eye health....
I also use Similasan eye drops for Dry Eyes, recommended by my eye doc :)
 
Eye health "supplements" are a good idea. My old Dad had Macular Degeneration in his later years, and I saw how that affected him. Years ago, my eye doctor put me on Lutein and Fish oil, and so far, that has kept my vision fairly stable. When I started taking these supplements, I had "floaters", and that went away after a few months of taking these vitamins. I have my annual eye exam in a couple of weeks, and hopefully I will just get new glasses with little or no prescription change.
 

PopsnTuff said:
I used to work in a few health food stores J, and lots of older folks bought these same products for better eye health....
I also use Similasan eye drops for Dry Eyes, recommended by my eye doc :)
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Not for just older folks, but we seem to "wake up" more as we age more. And then work on trying to slow down worsening issues.
 
Don M. said:
Eye health "supplements" are a good idea. My old Dad had Macular Degeneration in his later years, and I saw how that affected him. Years ago, my eye doctor put me on Lutein and Fish oil, and so far, that has kept my vision fairly stable. When I started taking these supplements, I had "floaters", and that went away after a few months of taking these vitamins. I have my annual eye exam in a couple of weeks, and hopefully I will just get new glasses with little or no prescription change.
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Good, Don, smart man. We are hopefully learning from what our folks went thru and others too. We can control so much damage. j
 
Why did I have a feeling you were going to start a thread like this?? It's great that you don't have problems with your eyes, but many Seniors do and many use the products you have listed. I know you dislike surgeries, but there are those of us that have to have surgeries. Some surgeries come out very good, while others not so good, but if a surgery is required to be able to walk better (without a cane or walker) and stay out of using a wheelchair and eye surgery makes eyesight much better...….why not?

Funny, there are those Seniors that take nothing, no vitamins or supplements and live to be 95 and there are those that take vitamins and supplements, take a walk down a trail, collapse and die of a heart attack right there.

I take a Senior Vitamin, B12, Krill Oil, Turmeric, K2 and D3 and wife takes the same. Being that we are both Diabetic II, there are certain supplements we can't take due to glucose increase.
 
The majority of the population do NOT do preventive medicine, my mom who lived to 91 was one of the first people to buy into Prevention Magazine about 50 yrs ago when it arrived on the scene, so I learned a lot from my mom and then everything else out there.

I do all I can to avoid supporting pharma and I've gotten side effects from things I've taken and done over the years, so I learned lessons.

Wish I could reverse this arthritis but it only advances with age and I do all to keep going and live with side effects of a hip replacement.

So I've been there. And lived thru a dear one in ICU from drug interactions.

Everyone will do what they do and that is OK, but others can do a lot of prevention if they don't already.

I've cleaned up my food intake a LOT in the last say 10 yrs as I don't want that A1C number of creep up. I stopped bringing breads and white noodles (flour) into my house over 10 yrs ago and talk about a good change. Even in dental health.
 
jaminhealth said:
The majority of the population do NOT do preventive medicine, my mom who lived to 91 was one of the first people to buy into Prevention Magazine about 50 yrs ago when it arrived on the scene, so I learned a lot from my mom and then everything else out there.

I do all I can to avoid supporting pharma and I've gotten side effects from things I've taken and done over the years, so I learned lessons.

Wish I could reverse this arthritis but it only advances with age and I do all to keep going and live with side effects of a hip replacement.

So I've been there. And lived thru a dear one in ICU from drug interactions.

Everyone will do what they do and that is OK, but others can do a lot of prevention if they don't already.

I've cleaned up my food intake a LOT in the last say 10 yrs as I don't want that A1C number of creep up. I stopped bringing breads and white noodles (flour) into my house over 10 yrs ago and talk about a good change. Even in dental health.
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Very good. IOW, I agree with you, but...…..
 
Funny how a PCP will tell their patient that taking a vitamin and supplements is a useless thing. "All you will do is urinate the darn thing out. You want to be healthy, than eat healthy and stop the vitamins and supplements."

In my mind I think, "so, what do those people do who enjoy the kinds of foods that they shouldn't be eating? Potato chips, pizza, French fries and so on?" That's why wife and I take what we take, so we can eat some of those "shouldn't be eaten" foods.
 
When my blood work showed I needed them, my PCP certainly did prescribe a multi-vitamin, plus prescription grade niacin and prescription grade fish oil. The niacin was only for a certain amount of time. Then, after awhile I started eating more fish with her approval.
 
PCP's work for pharma and need their patients to be ill and go to them for help....that's how I see it.

I don't believe I pee my supplements out as I know my body is working pretty darn good at 80 and I thank my supps. Hardly any pharma drugs in my life. PCP's and allopathic MD's don't like people like me...I don't need them very much. My integraive MD keeps my blood pressure meds filled and fills my thyroid med. Otherwise I would NOT have to see her at all but I do to keep her in my life and the couple meds I take.

Pharma has far far more profits than the supplement world and I know that and quite honestly I don't care. I'm not trying to save the world but sharing some thoughts on healing and believe more in the Patient Healing Thyself philosophy.
 
Jammin--you feel the supplements help you, but how do you know? Chances are you'd be just as healthy at 80 without the supplements. Personally I prefer to live without taking a bunch of pills a day, whether self-prescribed or pharma. I feel that if a person eats a balanced diet and takes reasonable care with their health... exercise, sunshine, drinks plenty of water, no smoking or excess alcohol... they are getting the nutrients they need for their body, including their eyes.
 
C'est Moi said:
Jammin--you feel the supplements help you, but how do you know? Chances are you'd be just as healthy at 80 without the supplements. Personally I prefer to live without taking a bunch of pills a day, whether self-prescribed or pharma. I feel that if a person eats a balanced diet and takes reasonable care with their health... exercise, sunshine, drinks plenty of water, no smoking or excess alcohol... they are getting the nutrients they need for their body, including their eyes.
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We all pick and choose our paths, I eat well but not perfect and our foods are NOT like when my parents were growing up.

When I started on Grape Seed Extract in 1995, I got rid of allergy and sinus issues...for years before it was drugs and allergy doc and their shots and NEVER getting better, but making the doctors Richer....so were the lobby full of patients. This is a huge part of my life and the fact we were told MAY prevent cancer(s) that was Music to my ears when I was 57.

And the rest unfolded as I was on other health forums, MOST alternative groups and a big one was for FM/CFS patients and the owner of the group had a supplement company in Santa Barbara CA and he dealt with CFS...

So it's all unfolded and it all started with the supplements MOSTLY after menopause -- so much changes in one's body.

That's how I believe in what I do.

I go to no eye doctor nor dentists for the last 8 yrs as my supplements take care of my gums and eyes. Not much has changed at 80, take that back a lot has changed, but I go to less and less doctors.

Arthritis is another issue I deal with and everything got all worse in my body after hip replacement at 72, so much went downhill in my body and more arthritis has set in and that does happen with more surgeries I've heard and read.

So that's how I know.

I don't smoke, never did, exercised and danced all my early life and drink plenty of Clean water, not tap as I avoid fluorides. And no alcohol anymore.

Can't explain more but I do not like to support Big Pharma and their drugs as I've had side effects and have a loved one who was in ICU for drug interactions years back. So....


And a big Topper for me was meeting my good friend back in 1994, she was from the E.C. too but moved to Calif. and I helped her find the apt she lives in down the street. She had attended a major Alternative Healing school in Boca Raton FL years ago and she taught me SO MUCH. We've helped each other so much in the 25 some yrs I've known her.

None of us know how long we'll be here but I'd like to as healthy and have a good mind as long as I can on my way out of here. Don't want to be kept going with pharma drugs...I see so much of that in a Caregiver's groups on another forum I'm on. Nothing quality about no mind.
 
Jam, I do believe in supplements, the ones specifically for diabetes and and also some extra. As a diabetic diagnosed for at least 15 year I do not haveneuropathy. Of course, that could just be me. My mom, after 30 plus years of being diabetic, didn't either. And she took supplements, too.

Just to add a little bit to this, and I don't think it's off topic either, my Pomeranian started getting very thin on his fur on his back. My groomer said that it sometimes happens with Poms. I asked his vet about that, and he recommended Omega 3 for cats and dogs, every day (fish oil). I gave him a pump of it every day (I had to be creative so that he would lick it...he loves cheese, so smeared a thin bit of soft cheese on my palm) and he ate it up. After around three months his fur came back in really nicely. Even during the summer months where one might think that fur is thinned out because of the heat and shedding, his fur still stayed nice and thick. And still is.
 
I'm 65 and presently am still using over the counter readers, been a few years since I had an eye exam but plan to have one again within the year. They warned me to start using sunglasses because it hadn't started yet, but I could develop macular degeneration if I didn't take care. They also told me to take supplements, which I was already taking for years. I do think that some people just have healthier eyes than others, no sure but aren't certain eye problems hereditary?

I use Lutein 20mg and Carnosine daily, NOW brand tryglyceride form of liquid Fish Oil at least once a week but we eat salmon once a week also. Also use D3. vitamin C and recently started taking Grape Seed Extract again after reading some of your posts Jam.

Like PopsnTuff, I use Similasan dry eye drops, but it switch back and forth with Refresh Tears. I don't have 'dry eyes', but the air by me is pretty dry especially in winter so I like to keep my eyes lubricated, also I have hay fever in summer and get dry itchy eyes, so the drops help with that too.
 
Good for Olivia and SeaBreeze...

Just a side note on animals and supplements, my neighbor's cat got an extra yr after a cancer dx as she gave Tommy grape seed ex in his food, opened capsule and poured some in. There are ads for grape seed ex for cats/dogs online. Vets sell it too I'm told.

My neighbor was more convinced when she read so much in the bible about the grape Seed. I think she still takes it so she says.
 
SeaBreeze said:
I'm 65 and presently am still using over the counter readers, been a few years since I had an eye exam but plan to have one again within the year. They warned me to start using sunglasses because it hadn't started yet, but I could develop macular degeneration if I didn't take care. They also told me to take supplements, which I was already taking for years. I do think that some people just have healthier eyes than others, no sure but aren't certain eye problems hereditary?

I use Lutein 20mg daily, NOW brand tryglyceride form of liquid Fish Oil at least once a week but we eat salmon once a week also. Also use D3. vitamin C and recently started taking Grape Seed Extract again after reading some of your posts Jam.

Like PopsnTuff, I use Similasan dry eye drops, but it switch back and forth with Refresh Tears. I don't have 'dry eyes', but the air by me is pretty dry especially in winter so I like to keep my eyes lubricated, also I have hay fever in summer and get dry itchy eyes, so the drops help with that too.
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Sunglasses are important Sun or Shade and Snow. So many eye problems can be saved if everyone worse sunglasses in the bright outside.
 
Olivia said:
Just to add a little bit to this, and I don't think it's off topic either, my Pomeranian started getting very thin on his fur on his back. My groomer said that it sometimes happens with Poms. I asked his vet about that, and he recommended Omega 3 for cats and dogs, every day (fish oil). I gave him a pump of it every day (I had to be creative so that he would lick it...he loves cheese, so smeared a thin bit of soft cheese on my palm) and he ate it up. After around three months his fur came back in really nicely. Even during the summer months where one might think that fur is thinned out because of the heat and shedding, his fur still stayed nice and thick. And still is.
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Olivia, it's good that you're giving your Pom fish oil and it's helping. My dog started having seasonal allergies last year and he'd scratch and bite to the point where he was pulling out some hair in spots, he's a labradoodle so his hair is wavy and constantly growing unlike regular fur.

Anyhoo, I started giving him small Krill Oil softgels and hiding them in a small dollop of cat food, even wrapped in cheese or hidden in a beef frank, he'll spit out any pills. I also started him on Dinovite for omega 3s and other nutrients he doesn't get in dog food, he's been doing well last year and this year, so I plan to keep him on it full time. DINOVITE
 
jaminhealth said:
Sunglasses are important Sun or Shade and Snow. So many eye problems can be saved if everyone worse sunglasses in the bright outside.
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Years back I went out in the back yard winter with a couple of feet of snow on the ground and it was full bright sun, didn't wear sunglasses, came back in the house and learned the meaning of 'snow blind', it was scary until it subsided...after that I make sure to wear them especially when the ground is white. I was foolish in my younger years not to wear them, I hate hats or sunglasses, but now I can't afford to neglect my eyes in my old age. Vision is so precious, hate to lose it.
 
SeaBreeze said:
Years back I went out in the back yard winter with a couple of feet of snow on the ground and it was full bright sun, didn't wear sunglasses, came back in the house and learned the meaning of 'snow blind', it was scary until it subsided...after that I make sure to wear them especially when the ground is white. I was foolish in my younger years not to wear them, I hate hats or sunglasses, but now I can't afford to neglect my eyes in my old age. Vision is so precious, hate to lose it.
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So much we didn't know when we were younger but thanks to the worldwide net and health forums and friends, we're learning more and more.. I'd love to wear hats but some look great in them and others, well that's me I believe. But I never tried to work with them, they can be hot on the heads.
 
Just helping another friend with the Crystalline Eye drops for cataracts and prevention and dissolving them. There are many other sites that offer products to DISSOLVE those "cats"...the medical industry sure has everyone brain washed on these unnecessary surgeries, a multitude of them at that.
 
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Don M. said:
Eye health "supplements" are a good idea. My old Dad had Macular Degeneration in his later years, and I saw how that affected him. Years ago, my eye doctor put me on Lutein and Fish oil, and so far, that has kept my vision fairly stable. When I started taking these supplements, I had "floaters", and that went away after a few months of taking these vitamins. I have my annual eye exam in a couple of weeks, and hopefully I will just get new glasses with little or no prescription change.
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ClassicRockr said:
Funny how a PCP will tell their patient that taking a vitamin and supplements is a useless thing. "All you will do is urinate the darn thing out. You want to be healthy, than eat healthy and stop the vitamins and supplements."

In my mind I think, "so, what do those people do who enjoy the kinds of foods that they shouldn't be eating? Potato chips, pizza, French fries and so on?" That's why wife and I take what we take, so we can eat some of those "shouldn't be eaten" foods.
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Both my dad and my husband have mascular degeneration and supplements were highly suggested by both eye specialists.
Just for the record, most people ask why their doctors don’t recommend vitamins. Most don’t because they only have an average of 2 to 3 weeks MAX in their 7 year university course to become a doctor and most courses are promoted by pharmaceutical suppliers so there is ALWAYS a conflict of interest.
 

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