Holocaust Remembrance Day

JonSR77

JonSR77

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Holocaust Remembrance Day

Two good references

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1) The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, DC

https://www.ushmm.org/online/dor/2022/


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And 2) Yad Vashem, Israel’s official memorial to the Holocaust

https://www.yadvashem.org/about/yad-vashem.html


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I definitely do not mean to suggest, in any way that the Jewish people are the only people to have suffered and suffered enormously. However horrible the Holocaust was, it did not last the 400 years of African slavery in the West. But, you know, both are so horrible, I can’t see any reason to compare. Or Pol Pot, or Stalin…
 

When I went to Washington DC, the museum had just opened and I couldn't get in. I think it was open to members at that time.

I saved the second link, I'm going to look into this page further. Thank you.
 
JonSR77 said:
I definitely do not mean to suggest, in any way that the Jewish people are the only people to have suffered and suffered enormously. However horrible the Holocaust was, it did not last the 400 years of African slavery in the West. But, you know, both are so horrible, I can’t see any reason to compare. Or Pol Pot, or Stalin…
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I fail to see the reason for comparison. Enlighten me as to why you felt it necessary. The Holocaust was just the icing on the cake of a 2,000 year torment; no Jew is claiming it's the worst thing that ever happened to any human ever. The Holocaust stands alone, and comparisons are insulting to all. The Jewish people are 0.19% of the world's population, yet so much more in imagination.
 

Pepper said:
I fail to see the reason for comparison. Enlighten me as to why you felt it necessary. The Holocaust was just the icing on the cake of a 2,000 year torment; no Jew is claiming it's the worst thing that ever happened to any human ever. The Holocaust stands alone, and comparisons are insulting to all. The Jewish people are 0.19% of the world's population, yet so much more in imagination.
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I don't think Jon meant anything negative by making that statement. I too wondered but things can be so woke these days, sometimes people feel compelled. Adversity and atrocities can stand on their own. I've seen the but-what-about-ism on the internet. I find this more with the younger crowd. My opinion anyway.

My response (for example) to people who try and use the argument that people who don't eat meat and may be plant based, care more about animals than people. The argument makes no sense but my response is "people can care about more than one thing at a time."
 
Remy said:
Day one of this, I was thinking the same. I wonder why we war with each other. I don't really get it.
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War is mostly about greed. Greed for wanting more. Many of the people fighting these wars don't even want to be a part of these killings.
 
Every year I wait in vain, to hear ANY mention of the tens of thousands of Allied military members who actually fought and died, in order to force the Nazis to give up. The Nazis would not have walked away from those camps if it were not for the fact that the Allied nations were closing in on them. Those massive Allied military grave yards in Europe are a silent testimony to how much blood was shed to stop the Nazis. I would like to hear a leading Jewish spokesperson come right out and THANK the men who died fighting the Nazis, for their sacrifice. So far, I have not ever heard such a statement. JimB.
 
You haven't looked hard enough. Israel has often thanked the good people who helped liberate the camps. The Russians were the first to do so.

WWII was not fought to save the Jewish people. If you think that, you must go back for a history lesson.

The individual soldiers were treated as heroes by those still alive in the camps. This I know for a fact. I have often heard the military praised.
 
JonSR77 said:
Holocaust Remembrance Day
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For our generation there is no forgetting...
JonSR77 said:
I definitely do not mean to suggest, in any way that the Jewish people are the only people to have suffered and suffered enormously. However horrible the Holocaust was, it did not last the 400 years of African slavery in the West. But, you know, both are so horrible, I can’t see any reason to compare. Or Pol Pot, or Stalin…
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No, of course not, many awful things have happened in our history, too many.
 

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