HOLY TWIT,Ebola is finally here in the United States.

You guys are determined to ruin my day!
 

As for spreading from a sneeze or cough?

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/qas.html

Unlike respiratory illnesses like measles or chickenpox, which can be transmitted by virus particles that remain suspended in the air after an infected person coughs or sneezes, Ebola is transmitted by direct contact with body fluids of a person who has symptoms of Ebola disease. Although coughing and sneezing are not common symptoms of Ebola, if a symptomatic patient with Ebola coughs or sneezes on someone, and saliva or mucus come into contact with that person’s eyes, nose or mouth, these fluids may transmit the disease.
What does “direct contact” mean?

Direct contact means that body fluids (blood, saliva, mucus, vomit, urine, or feces) from an infected person (alive or dead) have touched someone’s eyes, nose, or mouth or an open cut, wound, or abrasion.
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How long does Ebola live outside the body?[/h]Ebola is killed with hospital-grade disinfectants (such as household bleach). Ebola on dried on surfaces such as doorknobs and countertops can survive for several hours; however, virus in body fluids (such as blood) can survive up to several days at room temperature.
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[h=1]UN Ebola chief raises 'nightmare' prospect that virus could mutate and become airborne if it is not quickly brought under control[/h]His comments come as organizations battling the crisis in West Africa warn that the international community has just four weeks to stop it before it spirals 'completely out of control'.

Save the Children have also warned five more people are infected with the virus every hour.
 
And so it continues:

The Department of Health has confirmed a patient is currently in isolation and undergoing testing in Honolulu.
The Hawaii Nurses Association said the person is being treated at The Queen’s Medical Center.
Officials told KHON2 Ebola is a possibility, however the patient has yet to be specifically tested for the virus.
 
Should we stop all airtravel from the affected countries? Even if we did, what's to stop them from flying to another country and then here? Airtravel is a nightmare as it is.. should everyone be interviewed as to their whereabouts for the last 30 days and if they touched a feverish vomiting person?
 
Gross but this Ebola patient apparent vomited outside a US apartment while going to the hospital.

https://news.yahoo.com/traveler-liberia-first-ebola-patient-diagnosed-u-003007621--finance.html

'Oh don't worry it's only spread through fluids'-well what the heck is vomit. Wonder how the heck they decontaminated this site before kids and dogs wound up stepping in it. No one thought to give this guy a barf bag. Still can't believe these bozos at the Dallas hospital let this guy go.
 
rkunsaw said:
Just saw on the news this morning, the guy threw up in the parking lot of the apartment as he was heading to the hospital. I think the situation is worse than they are saying.
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The hospital completely blew it. Wonder after the authorities found out he vomited at an apartment if they sent out a hazmat team or decontamination crew.
 
WhatInThe said:
The hospital completely blew it. Wonder after the authorities found out he vomited at an apartment if they sent out a hazmat team or decontamination crew.
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I agree.... but in all fairness.. it was the first case and they just weren't looking for it in Texas.. I know that's no excuse... but I'll bet all hospitals will be now.

There's an old saying in Medical diagnoses.... "If you hear hoofbeats and it sounds like a horse... Don't expect to see Zebras"... Unfortunately, this time it was a zebra.
 
Here's news!! Now THIS really honks me off.... What the heck is wrong with that family? Do they not take this seriously? They left their house? Put armed guards out in front!!

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/10/...unsupported-browser|dl1|sec1_lnk3&pLid=539544

AOL.com

Texas officials announced they have placed the family of the man diagnosed in Dallas with Ebola under quarantine just as the Liberian government said he will face criminal charges.

Officials hand-delivered the order to Thomas Duncan's relatives Wednesday night after they reportedly violated an official request to not leave home, WFAA reported. The Liberian citizen reportedly lied on his health form to gain entry to the U.S.

Duncan's family is now under a strict quarantine until October 19. They are legally prohibited from leaving their Dallas home for any reason.

"We have tried and true protocols to protect the public and stop the spread of this disease," Dr. David Lakey, Texas health commissioner, said in a statement posted to Facebook. "This order gives us the ability to monitor the situation in the most meticulous way."

Duncan lying on his health form has prompted Liberian officials to announce they will file criminal charges against him for carrying the deadly virus through Europe and two U.S. cities, the Associated Press reported.

The exposed family members have not yet shown symptoms, but officials announced Wednesday plans to keep them under observation for 21 days. Included in the quarantine are five schoolchildren.

The order covers Ebola's incubation period. Individuals infected with the deadly virus often do not show symptoms for several days.

Those relatives are also required by law to provide blood samples for testing as requested by health officials and also to immediately report symptoms.

Officials also announced Thursday morning they believe as many as 100 people were exposed to Ebola by Duncan since his arrival in the U.S.

Infected people are not contagious until symptoms are visible. Those symptoms include vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pain, fever and headache.

Individuals under quarantine face criminal charges and even jail time if the order is violated.
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This is from the CDC website on transmission of Ebola. They keep mentioning on news reports that it cannot be transmitted by air, but I haven't heard them say anything about saliva, etc. But, it's written on their site. So, if somebody around three feet from you sneezes or coughs, you can get the virus if their saliva lands on you, especially in areas like your eyes, mouth, nose, etc.

When an infection does occur in humans, the virus can be spread in several ways to others. Ebola is spread through direct contact (through broken skin or mucous membranes) with


  • blood or body fluids (including but not limited to urine, saliva, feces, vomit, and semen) of a person who is sick with Ebola
  • objects (like needles and syringes) that have been contaminated with the virus
  • infected animals
  • Ebola is not spread through the air or by water, or in general, food. However, in Africa, Ebola may be spread as a result of handling bushmeat (wild animals hunted for food) and contact with infected bats.
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So much news today I don't where to start. Yes Liberia wants this Duncan guy on criminal charges for lying to airport officials in Liberia. But we should stack any criminal negligence charges on this guy that is possible federal and local. I would file criminal negligence, risking/creating a catastrophe, reckless endangerment, child endangerment if those were juveniles living with him.

Then local health officials have yet to clean the apartment where this guy was living. Supposedly they are having trouble finding people to do it? Also people quarantined are living with this Ebola guys infected apartment.

Then a news crew catches unprotected workers PRESSURE CLEANING where this guy puked at his apartment so now there is Ebola in water run off for people & pets to step in. Along with airborne particles and water carry this stuff through the air since it being pressure cleaned. I've would've poured or lightly sprayed a bottle of bleach on the area then pressure clean it along with taping it off.

The most troubling but actually not surprising is the way the hospital and medical staff seemed to blow this. BUT this is what happens with production line mail it in medicine. They treated enough symptoms to cover their butt. Did they really try to get to the bottom of the matter-no.
 
I think we should get tough and prevent ALL travel from infected countries, to include those who took a circuitous route through Belgium or wherever, or at least require quarantine before passengers can board a plane. And surely airport officials can determine where a traveler's journey began! From what I read, this disease is so bad that we need to take whatever steps are indicated to keep it from getting a foothold here, whether politically correct or not. Of course people are going to lie about being in contact with the disease -- they are trying to get away from it, and to admit they've been in contact with it will keep them off the plane. Quarantine for the incubation period is the only solution to keep infected people from just coming here.
 
Butterfly said:
I think we should get tough and prevent ALL travel from infected countries, to include those who took a circuitous route through Belgium or wherever, or at least require quarantine before passengers can board a plane. And surely airport officials can determine where a traveler's journey began! From what I read, this disease is so bad that we need to take whatever steps are indicated to keep it from getting a foothold here, whether politically correct or not. Of course people are going to lie about being in contact with the disease -- they are trying to get away from it, and to admit they've been in contact with it will keep them off the plane. Quarantine for the incubation period is the only solution to keep infected people from just coming here.
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That's probably the only solution and it's do-able.
 
QuickSilver said:
An NBC camera man is now infected... The News crew is being put in quarantine and will then be brought home.
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Thats whats so stupid about these journalist/cameramen,They all go over there to get news,first, without any regards to their own safety. Somehow I dont feel sorry for them,they knew what they were getting into.
 

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