How privileged do you think you are?

The problem with racism in our country will never get better as long as there are people, not just condoning it, but encouraging it. I'm all for free speech, but we need to do a better job of educating future generations and not let them be poisoned by hateful mean-spirited teachings. I don't believe that racism should be a part of politics. It's a personal belief. We all have to decide what kind of world we want to live in. What kind of thoughts we want going through our minds.
This has been said again and again. I am sorry but it is useless speech.

Racism will never end until we can stop defining people by their color. As in, a black man didn’t die, a man died. This is the problem. As long as people, on both sides, separate themselves by the color of their skin the issues will continue.
 

Just a thought. Just for a moment imagine that reincarnation is a Fact. Imagine your going to die tomorrow, and you will be re-incarnated into a different colour skin to the one you have in this life. What would you be afraid of?...what would you be desperate to change to make your life run smoothly and easily ? Think about it... in this world as it is now, being reborn into a different coloured skin.... be it Black, Brown, yellow, or white..
 
We weren’t poor as a family growing up. Both my parents worked hard and had high paying jobs so we were never lacking food and any essentials but they were gone most of the time.

When I left home at 16 , I worked hard so wasn’t lacking food or other essentials. I stayed in school to get a good education which I paid for. My grades were good enough to apply for a scholarship but I didn’t.

Was I privileged? Apparently yes I was because I was born white and moved to Canada. I’ve travelled around the world by bike, train , plane, bus and automobile which I paid for myself. The places I’ve lived have been nice and the place I live now is nice. My employment has been diverse, rewarding and interesting and again I’ve worked hard for it but it hasn’t all been wonderful.

I have been a victim of violence from as early as 5 living at home to being kidnapped and gang raped for months at a time as an adult so have seen the absolute worst of humanity and lived through it.

I’ve had family members killed in the war and family members who have been held hostage as a POW for years which had a huge impact on my parents and how I was raised. I count my blessings and feel grateful for all I have and have had as I realize things could have always be worse.

I refuse to feel bad for being born white and working hard for the things I have but do
have much empathy for those less fortunate.
 

Just a thought. Just for a moment imagine that reincarnation is a Fact. Imagine your going to die tomorrow, and you will be re-incarnated into a different colour skin to the one you have in this life. What would you be afraid of?...what would you be desperate to change to make your life run smoothly and easily ? Think about it... in this world as it is now, being reborn into a different coloured skin.... be it Black, Brown, yellow, or white..
It'd sure be something other than white, or Caucasian, or cracker, or whatever the derogatory term is these days.
Been tired of the thin onion paper skin for a looooong time.
I've noticed folks of a deep color don't wrinkle as quickly.
Man, I'm wrinkles on wrinkles.
I quit burning in my teens.
Guess my skin gave up peeling.
….decided to go with crinkle

Gramma would be proud

gramma arms.jpggramma arms.jpg2.jpg
 
I grew up white, in the US. I don’t think my skin color has anything to do with anything. I think the demographics of where you lived growing up, your parents employment, and who they were are more impactful on the growing up years. I think you were too protected from real life.
My mother, a white woman, when she was a teenager living on her uncles farm picked cotton for her room and board. She worked along side black people who also picked cotton. They all were known as field hands. She was not treated any different than her uncles employees. Her color had nothing to do with her life. She felt privileged to eat, they all felt privileged to eat.

The Great Depression unified the races in certain locations.
A weakness I see in the argument, "Racism has nothing to do with it", is that I knew I grew up in a household where we were racist, and I was racist until I was about twenty, and realised only ignorance was behind my attitude. I therefore see skin colour, or racial stereotyping has something to do with almost everything, but especially to do with feelings of privilege.
 
Gawd I hate arm wrinkles, crepiness ,. My elderly next door neighbour had that, and I thought it was because she was so skinny, and had no fat to fill out her arms, but now occasionally I catch a glimpse in my own arms, *ugh* I have no idea how to stop in happening either..

(oops just realised this is off topic, sorry)
 
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Just a thought. Just for a moment imagine that reincarnation is a Fact. Imagine your going to die tomorrow, and you will be re-incarnated into a different colour skin to the one you have in this life. What would you be afraid of?...what would you be desperate to change to make your life run smoothly and easily ? Think about it... in this world as it is now, being reborn into a different coloured skin.... be it Black, Brown, yellow, or white..
I wouldn’t care what color skin I wore as long as I came back as MALE.
 
Gawd I hate arm wrinkles, crepiness ,. My elderly next door neighbour had that, and I thought it was because she was so skinny, and had no fat to fill out her arms, but now occasionally I catch a glimpse in my own arms, *ugh* I have no idea how to stop in happening either..

(oops just realised this is off topic, sorry)
It's not lack of fat, it's the muscles shrinking that's a normal part of getting older.
The best defense is exercise and plenty of protein in one's diet.
(I'm not going off-topic, am going to address topic in a minute..)
 
This has been said again and again. I am sorry but it is useless speech.

Racism will never end until we can stop defining people by their color. As in, a black man didn’t die, a man died. This is the problem. As long as people, on both sides, separate themselves by the color of their skin the issues will continue.

1. Get rid of this so-called "diversity education"! I don't know when exactly it started, but it is backfiring! Harping on people's 'differences' is not the way to bring people together!
2. Stop the emphasis on "multiculturalism" and "(fill in the blank with any words) hyphen 'communities.'" With this modern approach, 'community' EXcludes instead of INcludes!

Maybe if enough people who agree with these viewpoints scream loudly enough and/or take other constructive action, changes can start to occur..
 
I personally feel very privileged. I'm white in the United States on the west coast so I've never really had to personally deal with racism or prejudice. My parents were middle to upper middle class most of my life so I never really had any difficult times growing up. My parents enjoyed sharing things with us and spending time with us so I had a reasonably good family growing up. We lived in places with good facilities and public schools so I had enjoyable times and good schooling when I was growing up. I also was able to go to college at a very nice state university for a very low amount of money that was funded by my parents so I had a great foundation for the rest of my life. I have never been the victim of physical violence so I haven't had to deal with reactions to that and none of my family has had to deal with any majorly traumatic situations during my lifetime. I have never had to fight in a war and have never had any family members killed or injured in a war. My jobs have given me the chance to travel internationally every once in a while so I've been able to visit some amazing places and meet some interesting people.

I'm amazed at what I've been able to experience and hope to continue to be amazed with what happens in the rest of my life.
You are indeed blessed! I don't have quite the glowing past that you describe, still nothing that has left any deep scars and I also feel very blessed.
I count myself one of the lucky ones every day.
 
A weakness I see in the argument, "Racism has nothing to do with it", is that I knew I grew up in a household where we were racist, and I was racist until I was about twenty, and realised only ignorance was behind my attitude. I therefore see skin colour, or racial stereotyping has something to do with almost everything, but especially to do with feelings of privilege.
I am trying hard to be careful when I speak to you because much of what I want to say you would be taken in the wrong way. I wouldn’t mean it that way. I still see ignorance behind your attitude, and perhaps a touch of arrogance. But then I have a lot of ignorance, as I am fairly uneducated.
You see things from the top down, I see things from the bottom up.

Your parents, who I don’t know, might have been racist, or might not. Or they might have felt superior. Superiority goes hand in hand with arrogance. Superiority combined with arrogance can often be confused with racism or a kind of mock racism.

After all, if you, and those surrounding you, are peeing into a gold plated toilet; and the rest of the world is peeing into a hole in the ground; it’s better, more acceptable, and popular to carry the label of racism than just rich arrogant you know whats. Kind of goes along with saying I was racist until I was 20, then I saw the light, and am not racist. Maybe you never were racist? Idk.

Racism, good old hard core do or die racism was, IMO, born in the south in the USA. It was not so much the plantation owners as everyone assumes, IMO. With the plantation owners it was about money, as it is now.

No, it was born by poor white people digging in the dirt who needed to be superior to someone, who needed a certain amount of arrogance to survive. Poor white people who could say to themselves-at least I’m not a slave.

Poor white people, in today’s world who can say to themselves at least I’m not black, brown, Asian, or whatever. It’s about MONEY. It’s always about MONEY. IMO.

A true racist is born into a racist family, spoon feed racism from the get go, and does not suddenly become non-racist. IMO. It takes years for a true racist to reform, like an alcoholic, they must always be on guard in case they relapse. But what do I know? 😄
 
We weren’t poor as a family growing up. Both my parents worked hard and had high paying jobs so we were never lacking food and any essentials but they were gone most of the time.

When I left home at 16 , I worked hard so wasn’t lacking food or other essentials. I stayed in school to get a good education which I paid for. My grades were good enough to apply for a scholarship but I didn’t.

Was I privileged? Apparently yes I was because I was born white and moved to Canada. I’ve travelled around the world by bike, train , plane, bus and automobile which I paid for myself. The places I’ve lived have been nice and the place I live now is nice. My employment has been diverse, rewarding and interesting and again I’ve worked hard for it but it hasn’t all been wonderful.

I have been a victim of violence from as early as 5 living at home to being kidnapped and gang raped for months at a time as an adult so have seen the absolute worst of humanity and lived through it.

I’ve had family members killed in the war and family members who have been held hostage as a POW for years which had a huge impact on my parents and how I was raised. I count my blessings and feel grateful for all I have and have had as I realize things could have always be worse.

I refuse to feel bad for being born white and working hard for the things I have but do
have much empathy for those less fortunate.
You are a survivor, and I admire you for your positive attitude.
 
Simply ask yourself this question: Would you choose to be born black in America? 'Nuff said
Let’s see would I choose to be born black in America in a rich black family, a middle class black family, or a poor black family that loved and cared for their children. Or would I choose to be born in a white family that abused their children and beat them on a regular basis.

So hard to decide, hmm, thanks, I will be born black, loved, and spared the beatings.
 
It's not lack of fat, it's the muscles shrinking that's a normal part of getting older.
The best defense is exercise and plenty of protein in one's diet.
(I'm not going off-topic, am going to address topic in a minute..)
I have good strong biceps, and strong arm muscles plenty of fat surrounding them too... yet I still can see the crepey skin.. and the slimmer I get the worse it becomes :(...funny that I don't have anythiong like that on my legs or torso...does it go there ?
 
Let’s see would I choose to be born black in America in a rich black family, a middle class black family, or a poor black family that loved and cared for their children. Or would I choose to be born in a white family that abused their children and beat them on a regular basis.

So hard to decide, hmm, thanks, I will be born black, loved, and spared the beatings.
or you could be born into a black/asian/indian family who are drug addicts who starve and beat you.. or equally a white family who are middle class but beat and starve you , .. or a well off Asian family, who treat you like a princess, and care for your emotional needs .. or equally be born into a family in Mumbai..,. where you're abandoned to fend for yourself from the age of 3 or 4 and become one of the hundreds of thousands of street kids
.... or maybe be born into a Chinese family who have nothing at all, and live in a shack but they love you more than life.. but can't afford to have you educated, and sell you to the highest bidder just so they can eat and you're used as a sex slave ( and it happens often)
... My point being you can have a good or bad life regardless of the colour of your skin within your own family structure... but in reality it's how society treats you as a person.. and the stark fact is that in many parts of the word the colour of your skin will determine how you're treated.. that includes places like India where the Caste determines how you're treated amongst your own people.

The lighter the skin, the more respect you're given . Not only India, but many Asian countries as well as Black countries, and even indigenous people like Australian Aborigines and New Zealand Maori are perceived by many to be a lower class .. Why that should be is just beyond my understanding, I have no answers for that..
 
I am trying hard to be careful when I speak to you because much of what I want to say you would be taken in the wrong way. I wouldn’t mean it that way. I still see ignorance behind your attitude, and perhaps a touch of arrogance. But then I have a lot of ignorance, as I am fairly uneducated.
You see things from the top down, I see things from the bottom up.

Your parents, who I don’t know, might have been racist, or might not. Or they might have felt superior. Superiority goes hand in hand with arrogance. Superiority combined with arrogance can often be confused with racism or a kind of mock racism.

After all, if you, and those surrounding you, are peeing into a gold plated toilet; and the rest of the world is peeing into a hole in the ground; it’s better, more acceptable, and popular to carry the label of racism than just rich arrogant you know whats. Kind of goes along with saying I was racist until I was 20, then I saw the light, and am not racist. Maybe you never were racist? Idk.

Racism, good old hard core do or die racism was, IMO, born in the south in the USA. It was not so much the plantation owners as everyone assumes, IMO. With the plantation owners it was about money, as it is now.

No, it was born by poor white people digging in the dirt who needed to be superior to someone, who needed a certain amount of arrogance to survive. Poor white people who could say to themselves-at least I’m not a slave.

Poor white people, in today’s world who can say to themselves at least I’m not black, brown, Asian, or whatever. It’s about MONEY. It’s always about MONEY. IMO.

A true racist is born into a racist family, spoon feed racism from the get go, and does not suddenly become non-racist. IMO. It takes years for a true racist to reform, like an alcoholic, they must always be on guard in case they relapse. But what do I know? 😄

I agree that it's almost entirely about the need to feel superior.

One aspect of this that I've only encountered in recent years: individuals made to feel as if they were at the bottom of the barrel look for others they can put in that position so they can feel better about themselves.

However, another aspect of racism I've noticed is the worst 'verbalizations' of racist attitudes come from individuals who, themselves, live like pond scum. In such cases, maybe 'hating on' other groups is 'easier' than looking at themselves and cleaning up their own lives.
 
or you could be born into a black/asian/indian family who are drug addicts who starve and beat you.. or equally a white family who are middle class but beat and starve you , .. or a well off Asian family, who treat you like a princess, and care for your emotional needs .. or equally be born into a family in Mumbai..,. where you're abandoned to fend for yourself from the age of 3 or 4 and become one of the hundreds of thousands of street kids
.... or maybe be born into a Chinese family who have nothing at all, and live in a shack but they love you more than life.. but can't afford to have you educated, and sell you to the highest bidder just so they can eat and you're used as a sex slave ( and it happens often)
... My point being you can have a good or bad life regardless of the colour of your skin within your own family structure... but in reality it's how society treats you as a person.. and the stark fact is that in many parts of the word the colour of your skin will determine how you're treated.. that includes places like India where the Caste determines how you're treated amongst your own people.

The lighter the skin, the more respect you're given . Not only India, but many Asian countries as well as Black countries, and even indigenous people like Australian Aborigines and New Zealand Maori are perceived by many to be a lower class .. Why that should be is just beyond my understanding, I have no answers for that..
I agree. I was answering the question asked. I would rather be born into a family that loved and treated me well no matter what skin color we all had.
 
I am trying hard to be careful when I speak to you because much of what I want to say you would be taken in the wrong way. I wouldn’t mean it that way. I still see ignorance behind your attitude, and perhaps a touch of arrogance. But then I have a lot of ignorance, as I am fairly uneducated.
You see things from the top down, I see things from the bottom up.

Your parents, who I don’t know, might have been racist, or might not. Or they might have felt superior. Superiority goes hand in hand with arrogance. Superiority combined with arrogance can often be confused with racism or a kind of mock racism.

After all, if you, and those surrounding you, are peeing into a gold plated toilet; and the rest of the world is peeing into a hole in the ground; it’s better, more acceptable, and popular to carry the label of racism than just rich arrogant you know whats. Kind of goes along with saying I was racist until I was 20, then I saw the light, and am not racist. Maybe you never were racist? Idk.

Racism, good old hard core do or die racism was, IMO, born in the south in the USA. It was not so much the plantation owners as everyone assumes, IMO. With the plantation owners it was about money, as it is now.

No, it was born by poor white people digging in the dirt who needed to be superior to someone, who needed a certain amount of arrogance to survive. Poor white people who could say to themselves-at least I’m not a slave.

Poor white people, in today’s world who can say to themselves at least I’m not black, brown, Asian, or whatever. It’s about MONEY. It’s always about MONEY. IMO.

A true racist is born into a racist family, spoon feed racism from the get go, and does not suddenly become non-racist. IMO. It takes years for a true racist to reform, like an alcoholic, they must always be on guard in case they relapse. But what do I know? 😄
You are over complicated the situation regarding my parents, because great as they both were, and of course when being administered to by black doctors or nurses they behaved perfectly, but my father expressed the view, "if a black family moves in next door to you move out!", rhetoric probably fed to him by drinking mates", and much worse things. I believe I became nonracist when I looked at Lynford Christie, UK's Olympic 100 metres champion, who held himself like a man, and I thought, "I'm not better than this man".:censored: .
 
I personally feel very privileged. I'm white in the United States on the west coast so I've never really had to personally deal with racism or prejudice. My parents were middle to upper middle class most of my life so I never really had any difficult times growing up. My parents enjoyed sharing things with us and spending time with us so I had a reasonably good family growing up. We lived in places with good facilities and public schools so I had enjoyable times and good schooling when I was growing up. I also was able to go to college at a very nice state university for a very low amount of money that was funded by my parents so I had a great foundation for the rest of my life. I have never been the victim of physical violence so I haven't had to deal with reactions to that and none of my family has had to deal with any majorly traumatic situations during my lifetime. I have never had to fight in a war and have never had any family members killed or injured in a war. My jobs have given me the chance to travel internationally every once in a while so I've been able to visit some amazing places and meet some interesting people.

I'm amazed at what I've been able to experience and hope to continue to be amazed with what happens in the rest of my life.

I've had the same kind of life experience. Maybe being born into less fortunate circumstances would have given me a bit more "grit", maybe not. One thing is for sure, you can only play the hand you were dealt in life, not someone else's hand. I am grateful, I hope, and I am trying to help others who haven't had the same chances. Winding down my career now and plan to do more with more free time.
 
good ole song: "Don't give a hoot about a greenback dollar. Spend it fast as i can"
I identify more with what is referred to as white trash more than the sophisticated elites.
If you've ever had 35 cents to last you 6 more days, it changes you.

That is a good song. But this one by the Kingston Trio is even better.

 


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