How to Convince People to Wear a Mask

Mike

Mike

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How would you encourage people to "Mask Up"
when they are out and about?

If we saw a person walking along the street with
a Machete on their shoulder, we would all give a
wide space to get past them safely, I think.

So maybe if you don't wear a mask for whatever
reason, you should carry, what?

Maybe a big notice that says "Keep Away I am a
Killer"!

Any suggestions?

Mike.
 

Mike said:
How would you encourage people to "Mask Up"
when they are out and about?

If we saw a person walking along the street with
a Machete on their shoulder, we would all give a
wide space to get past them safely, I think.

So maybe if you don't wear a mask for whatever
reason, you should carry, what?

Maybe a big notice that says "Keep Away I am a
Killer"!

Any suggestions?

Mike.
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I think the only real way to have it happen is to make it mandatory by a law that police would have to enforce and give hefty enough fines if they don’t. Most cities have made it mandatory, stores and restaurants have made it mandatory, but no one follows through on it. The police come right out and say they won’t enforce it so non mask wearers just take that as a sign not to do it.
I realize there isn’t proof that a mask helps, but there isn’t real proof that it doesn’t either. I think it would be a good money maker for the cities so I really question why they don’t do it.
 
Excerpt from face mask studies:

Another study looked at coronavirus deaths across 198 countries and found that those with cultural norms or government policies favoring mask-wearing had lower death rates.

Two compelling case reports also suggest that masks can prevent transmission in high-risk scenarios, said Chin-Hong and Rutherford. In one case, a man flew from China to Toronto and subsequently tested positive for COVID-19. He had a dry cough and wore a mask on the flight, and all 25 people closest to him on the flight tested negative for COVID-19. In another case, in late May, two hair stylists in Missouri had close contact with 140 clients while sick with COVID-19. Everyone wore a mask and none of the clients tested positive.
 

I think masks help but are not a panacea. Can't tell you how many people have been scrupulous about masking up and distancing but got sick nevertheless.

This is very, very, very contagious. It is everywhere - and I do mean everywhere.
 
To convince others to do things it often takes looking at an item differently..... the thought of fines and passing laws ( not mandates) on a inconclusive items seems foolish. Many politicians do not want to make that leap.
Fines do not enrich a city or state if they are spent on legal defense from lawsuits. They would then need proof of the effectiveness and since there are conflicting studies the defense would be weak at best.
I had this discussion with a friend who read a study that college students were paid to wear masks and sit in a room for hours and not touching mask over and over etc. , suggested this was the same as a person working............ NOT even close. if he thinks every job is just sitting still and in a controlled situation.
Physical exertion while wearing masks can show lower oxygen levels. that can be dangerous. There also is a Huge difference in quality of masks.

I have no issue if a business said "no mask ,no entry" but when many ONLY do this under duress by a state or city, threatening loss of license or problems, that is different...... often forced into an enforcement position because police enforce LAWS.......

I keep hearing about the anecdotal story of the hairdressers....... or other contact that happened and those around them did not get ill...... this is not a substitute for actual studies that are inconclusive.
What were the follow up protocols on this?
If clients were asymptomatic did in fact all get tested ? and perhaps follow up tested?
The reverse could be applied that IF in fact these hairdressers were able to do their job with little or no risk why were so many put out of business?
Why was the lady in Texas jailed for opening her salon so her and her staff could keep their jobs? Her reasons were some of her hair stylists were thinking about going to clients home where they had no idea of the cleaning in a salon they had those controls in place.

This type of anecdotal story gives some the false sense of security that masks are complete protection. Perhaps the item that fewer cases occur is due to the group of clients or traveling are in good health with out many underlying conditions.
A report from CDC reported that almost 70% of some new cases asked and patients indicated they wore a mask regularly. Perhaps they lied about their compliance but in REAL world application we just do not know.

If a person wants to convince others then they need to address all issues not just dismissing items that do not support the position you support.
 
StarSong said:
I think masks help but are not a panacea. Can't tell you how many people have been scrupulous about masking up and distancing but got sick nevertheless.

This is very, very, very contagious. It is everywhere - and I do mean everywhere.
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And now we have this. 😥😭

Why is the new strain of COVID-19 more contagious?
This variant has a mutation in the receptor binding domain of the spike protein, one that could potentially make it more rapidly transmissible than other circulating strains, according to the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention.
 
StarSong said:
I think masks help but are not a panacea. Can't tell you how many people have been scrupulous about masking up and distancing but got sick nevertheless.

This is very, very, very contagious. It is everywhere - and I do mean everywhere.
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Your mask does not primarily protect you. Instead, it protects those around you if you have Covid.
 
Jeni said:
To convince others to do things it often takes looking at an item differently..... the thought of fines and passing laws ( not mandates) on a inconclusive items seems foolish. Many politicians do not want to make that leap.
Fines do not enrich a city or state if they are spent on legal defense from lawsuits. They would then need proof of the effectiveness and since there are conflicting studies the defense would be weak at best.
I had this discussion with a friend who read a study that college students were paid to wear masks and sit in a room for hours and not touching mask over and over etc. , suggested this was the same as a person working............ NOT even close. if he thinks every job is just sitting still and in a controlled situation.
Physical exertion while wearing masks can show lower oxygen levels. that can be dangerous. There also is a Huge difference in quality of masks.

I have no issue if a business said "no mask ,no entry" but when many ONLY do this under duress by a state or city, threatening loss of license or problems, that is different...... often forced into an enforcement position because police enforce LAWS.......

I keep hearing about the anecdotal story of the hairdressers....... or other contact that happened and those around them did not get ill...... this is not a substitute for actual studies that are inconclusive.
What were the follow up protocols on this?
If clients were asymptomatic did in fact all get tested ? and perhaps follow up tested?
The reverse could be applied that IF in fact these hairdressers were able to do their job with little or no risk why were so many put out of business?
Why was the lady in Texas jailed for opening her salon so her and her staff could keep their jobs? Her reasons were some of her hair stylists were thinking about going to clients home where they had no idea of the cleaning in a salon they had those controls in place.

This type of anecdotal story gives some the false sense of security that masks are complete protection. Perhaps the item that fewer cases occur is due to the group of clients or traveling are in good health with out many underlying conditions.
A report from CDC reported that almost 70% of some new cases asked and patients indicated they wore a mask regularly. Perhaps they lied about their compliance but in REAL world application we just do not know.

If a person wants to convince others then they need to address all issues not just dismissing items that do not support the position you support.
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It’s a can of worms for sure, for sure. Me? I think my demise is already written in the books. I just don’t the specifics 😜, so while I am compliant with anything that might help others, I believe if the heavenly book says I will die of Covid in 2021, then nothing is going to change that. Or it could say I will be hit by a truck while on my way to the store to purchase more masks 😷. Who knows?
 
Just remember we are dealing with human nature here. Do you folks remember all the media messages and people trying to get gay people and intravenous drug users to practice safety in their activities when Aids first came to the forefront? It is the same thing all over again except that instead of a specific group of people, this involves everybody.

Tony
 
Yosh said:
Your mask does not primarily protect you. Instead, it protects those around you if you have Covid.
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No offense, but I've found that story difficult to swallow from the get-go. If it were true, why all the hullabaloo about medical people needing N95s and PPE? Bottom line is healthcare providers wear those items to protect themselves from contracting the disease, not to protect unmasked patients (who are already sick with Covid). Yes, it also keeps germs from further infecting patients, but the PPE push has always been about preserving the health of the medical people.

Masks are worn to protect the people wearing them as well as those around them. If everyone is masked the chances are diminished that this will spread, but it is not a lock-solid guarantee by any means.

Los Angeles is a very mask and distancing compliant area. Sure some folks are outliers, but nearly all wear masks every single time they're in a store or other public place. Almost all schools have been closed since March. Our weather has been very cooperative this fall and winter - most days are in the high 60s to low 70s, meaning people can continue to be outdoors plus keep their homes/offices well ventilated.

Despite all that, our numbers have skyrocketed.
 
Kathleen’s Place said:
It’s a can of worms for sure, for sure. Me? I think my demise is already written in the books. I just don’t the specifics 😜, so while I am compliant with anything that might help others, I believe if the heavenly book says I will die of Covid in 2021, then nothing is going to change that. Or it could say I will be hit by a truck while on my way to the store to purchase more masks 😷. Who knows?
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There's that old saying from wartime, @Kathleen’s Place: I'm not so concerned about the bullet that has my name on it, I'm much more worried about the one that says, "to whom it may concern."
 
I've personally thought the virus moves in "waves" across the country, if you happen to be in a dense wave, wearing a mask can help as long as you also keep your distance and wash your hands. We've watched it sweep across the country - wave after wave after wave. We don't know how long a vaccine may last...could be like the flu shot, 3 months at peak protection. Hey, by the time the middle or last category folks can actually get "jabbed" it could be past time for the first ones to get yet another shot. And so forth.

We just have to do the best we can and keep on keeping on.
 
Mike said:
How would you encourage people to "Mask Up"
when they are out and about?

If we saw a person walking along the street with
a Machete on their shoulder, we would all give a
wide space to get past them safely, I think.

So maybe if you don't wear a mask for whatever
reason, you should carry, what?

Maybe a big notice that says "Keep Away I am a
Killer"!

Any suggestions?

Mike.
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If I saw a guy with a machete I'd go someplace safe asap and call 911. If I was in an enclosed space, like a shop or public restroom, and encountered someone unmasked, I'd keep my distance and let him be.

Wow. Does anyone use a public restroom these days? I wouldn't risk it, but then I've always been overly cautious whenever I used one anyhow. I wonder if they've been made off limits? Hadn't thought about that till now.
 
Murrmurr said:
If I saw a guy with a machete I'd go someplace safe asap and call 911. If I was in an enclosed space, like a shop or public restroom, and encountered someone unmasked, I'd keep my distance and let him be.

Wow. Does anyone use a public restroom these days? I wouldn't risk it, but then I've always been overly cautious whenever I used one anyhow. I wonder if they've been made off limits? Hadn't thought about that till now.
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It is all in context..... in some instances a person may have a reason to have a machete, as a tool .......

Keeping your distance from the unmasked or even those wearing them incorrectly (like not having whole nose covered etc.) or deciding not to use the facilities is your choice.
I felt this early on if a business seems to be not enforcing something to a persons personnel liking take your business elsewhere........... there are other stores or locations........Instead they feel a sense of entitlement to tell people what they should be doing.
I witnessed an unhinged person go off on store management because a person did not have a mask on a toddler ......
This whole situation seems to have made some think they can make choices for others and tell others how to live.

As for restrooms many people are already are cautious if they need to use one......... but making off limits could put people in a legal area as some public places or businesses have requirements to have restrooms for public use.
 

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