Humane meat made with just cells

A lot of these veggies we're getting during the winter come from factory farms or from way down south. I find the strawberries and even the lettuce often taste strange as do the tomatoes and I agree the cucumbers are terrible and I've stopped buying them. Sometimes I'll get frozen blueberries and strawberries and the frozen cauliflower and broccoli are pretty good.
 

chic said:
Ruth do you mean the organic produce in your grocery store is too pricey for you? I don't have tons to spend, but I buy organic food all the time. Picking and choosing with organics is a good way to go. Dairy and animal products should always be organic. Berries and any fruit where you eat the skin should be too. Melons have a thick skin which you don't eat so you can eat conventional. Mushrooms can be conventionally grown too, which leafy greens should be organic. Apples are the highest presticide sprayed fruit so always go organic with this one.

Oraganic eating is a lifestyle choice and pays dividends medically because you don't get sick as much nor do you require as much medicine. My mother is almost 84 and has been eating organic for five years now and a lot of her medical conditions have greatly improved ot disappeared altogether. So eating organic definitely can pay off financially for those with health issues.
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Yes,chic, I agree 100% organic is the way to go.The organics aside from being very expensive in our stores look horrible. Brown and rotted spots. I think because they are expensive, many people don't buy them.They lay on the shelf and rot. At least I am still able to garden and I get a ton of veggies each summer. I use no chemicals. I have 2 large chest freezers and by summers end they are usually filled. Also dry my own herbs as well.
 
Don M. said:
Organic, fresh vegetables just Taste so much better, IMO. I got my garden tilled yesterday, and am looking forward to the Spring planting. The difference in taste of something minutes out of the garden, vs., what was picked weeks ago before it hits the grocery stores, is quite obvious. I just put a little nitrogen fertilizer in the soil, and set up my motion sensor sprinklers to keep the deers out of the garden, and nature does the rest.
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Don, I love to garden also. Can't wait to get my garden going. Here in Jersey it is a bit to early but soon I will plant my peas. I agree, the flavor of these fresh vegetables can't be beat. They even taste better from my garden than the local stands during the summer. Happy gardening.
 

Debby said:
That's the one thing I am going to miss big time when we move and that's the taste of veggies right out of the garden. I always grow cucumbers and just love them. But I bought a Long English one from the supermarket last week and it has the weirdest taste. Looks really nice but the flavour has to be ignored. I've often wondered if the nutrient level of tasteless or weird tasting veggies is different and the flavour or lack of it is an indicator? Anyway, won't be buying cuc's til the farmers market opens again.
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I hear ya on the English cucumbers. The wife likes those, and I "tolerate" them....but they are nowhere near as good as the fat juicy garden variety. I plant cucumbers, cantaloupe, green beans, cherry and grape tomatoes, and "peaches and cream" corn. The corn and beans keep well in the freezer, for use off season, but I tried freezing some cucumbers once, and they got mushy after thawing. I usually get so many cucumbers and cantaloupe that we can't eat them all, so I pass the extras to the neighbors, and take a bunch up to town to the senior citizens home. I like these small tomatoes, and keep a bowl in the kitchen to snack on like candy. When I'm working in the yard, I take frequent breaks, and grab a handful of these little tomatoes, rinse them with the hose and have a quick snack...Yummmeeee. I almost become a vegetarian for 4 or 5 months every year. My old grandparents were all farmers, so I think I inherited some of their genes.
 
Ruth n Jersey said:
Don, I love to garden also. Can't wait to get my garden going. Here in Jersey it is a bit to early but soon I will plant my peas. I agree, the flavor of these fresh vegetables can't be beat. They even taste better from my garden than the local stands during the summer. Happy gardening.
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Yup, after doing some tilling yesterday, I'm ready to get started planting. I usually don't plant until early May, but as mild as our Winter has been, I may get started by mid April, this year. I think taste has a great deal to do with the freshness of the vegetable...the shorter the time from garden to table, the better the taste.
 
SeaBreeze said:
I don't want to eat any foods made in a lab, whether meat or GMO foods, unfortunately they're getting us to eat genetically modified food already and feeding it to the animals I understand. Like Mike, I'd become a vegetarian before eating lab meat, but I doubt this will be anywhere near full swing production in our lifetimes.

We often buy Morning Star Farms "Prime Grillers" Veggie Burgers, best I've tasted so far!
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I like the Morning Star Farms Grillers and Chic Patties, too. Neither of them has meat in it. I have decided to go Veggie now. I did it for 10 years before and meat seems quite gross to me when I really think about it and what they do to the animals who give us meat. It's barbaric.
 
chic said:
Ruth do you mean the organic produce in your grocery store is too pricey for you? I don't have tons to spend, but I buy organic food all the time. Picking and choosing with organics is a good way to go. Dairy and animal products should always be organic. Berries and any fruit where you eat the skin should be too. Melons have a thick skin which you don't eat so you can eat conventional. Mushrooms can be conventionally grown too, which leafy greens should be organic. Apples are the highest presticide sprayed fruit so always go organic with this one.

Oraganic eating is a lifestyle choice and pays dividends medically because you don't get sick as much nor do you require as much medicine. My mother is almost 84 and has been eating organic for five years now and a lot of her medical conditions have greatly improved ot disappeared altogether. So eating organic definitely can pay off financially for those with health issues.
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That is good to know about organic fruit and vegetables. I eat a lot of apples and they are not organic. I hope I don't get cancer or something just as bad.
 
Cookie said:
BW, here's the way I made them.

1 can of chick peas drained, ground in food processor to semi smooth consistency, a few lumps is ok
1 small onion chopped fine and/or a bit of finely chopped red or green pepper
soy sauce to taste (1-2 tablespoons)
1 egg
about 1/4 cup or more whole wheat flour
about 1/4 cup or more of dry oatmeal **
about 1/4 cup or more of bread crumbs
salt to taste

- mix well to make a firm dough - adding more dry ingredients if necessary
- refrigerate in sealed container for several hours or overnight
- form into small patties - fry in about 1/2 inch of medium hot vegetable oil til brown and crisp, drain on paper towels
- I like them with a bit of yogurt

** I sometimes add a bit of cooked quinoa or bulghur wheat.

Bon appetit!
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Thank you for that recipe, it sounds so delicious!
 
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