Hunter Biden reaches plea Deal on Taxes.

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fancicoffee13 said:
Where money and power, prestige is, well I hope he is held to the same standards normal citizens are held by.
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I agree, and I am happy to see that he was brought to account for what he did. All lawbreakers should be, wish it happened more.

As to the fairness of his penalties and how they would compare to what normal citizens would get, I don't know enough about it to comment.
 
StarSong said:
People rarely go to jail for misdemeanor charges of failure to pay taxes on time.
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There was a time when it was federal prison or forfeiture or both, depending on how much was owed.

These days, the IRS will set up payment terms you can live with (via income-garnish). They also have penalty relief and forgiveness programs.
 
Murrmurr said:
There was a time when it was federal prison or forfeiture or both, depending on how much was owed.

These days, the IRS will set up payment terms you can live with (via income-garnish). They also have penalty relief and forgiveness programs.
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So far as I know you only go to jail if you lie or commit fraud. Just not paying your taxes can bring significant penalties but not jail time. Its what my accountant tells me anyway,
 
Alligatorob said:
So far as I know you only go to jail if you lie or commit fraud. Just not paying your taxes can bring significant penalties but not jail time. Its what my accountant tells me anyway,
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And Biden's charges are misdemeanors, apparently. His attorney must have said it was an error that Biden wasn't even aware of. I'm sure someone or an agency handles his taxes.
 
Obviously, some people either don't follow the news or are intent on trying to make it look like Hunter Biden is Joe Smith, average American citizen. Time to catch up, folks.

StarSong said:
I'm bowing out of this thread and unwatching because it's going to get political very quickly.
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Yes, heading for a well informed free speech zone. :cool:
 
squatting dog said:
I'll with hold further comments until I see how the lying on ATF form 4473 works out.
No such thing as a misdemeanor there.... only Felony. Had I lied on that form, I'd be facing 10 years in a Federal prison, so I'd like to see if there is a 2 tier justice system.
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He will never face justice on the felony charge of a felon possessing a gun. If he should, he will be pardoned. I don't like seeing anyone go to prison, but I also don't like seeing courts not being consistent with sentencing. All of this plea dealing that goes on at times is not fair and if there are innocent others involved, they may never get the justice they deserve. For example; while one guy gets 20 years for bank robbery on a single count, another guy may get 10 years, with 5 years suspended and a $2500 fine on a single count. Do you think that is fair? BTW, keep an eye on the Sam Bankman-Fried case. The government is already starting to cave.
 
Been There said:
He will never face justice on the felony charge of a felon possessing a gun. If he should, he will be pardoned. I don't like seeing anyone go to prison, but I also don't like seeing courts not being consistent with sentencing. All of this plea dealing that goes on at times is not fair and if there are innocent others involved, they may never get the justice they deserve. For example; while one guy gets 20 years for bank robbery on a single count, another guy may get 10 years, with 5 years suspended and a $2500 fine on a single count. Do you think that is fair? BTW, keep an eye on the Sam Bankman-Fried case. The government is already starting to cave.
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I agree there is too much inconsistency in sentencing and treatment of people. However its not just the rich and famous that get away with things like this. I know a guy who was found in possession of a handgun less than a year after being convicted of domestic violence. The police did nothing but tell him he wasn't supposed to have it and to get rid of it. I know because the gun is in my safe right now...

That said the more money you have the better your chances are of getting away with things or off lightly. Always has been, and probably always will be. Hard to stop.

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, Animal Farm
 
Alligatorob said:
I agree, and I am happy to see that he was brought to account for what he did. All lawbreakers should be, wish it happened more.

As to the fairness of his penalties and how they would compare to what normal citizens would get, I don't know enough about it to comment.
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However, he is doing no time for it.
 
Alligatorob said:
Do you think he should? Do you know what the average sentance is for his crimes, what a normal citizen would face?
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There is a history to this gun charge. I will write what I know and I hope that I don't screw it up. Hunter purchased a gun from a dealer. He filled out the paperwork (ATF Form 4473) and when he came to the question asking if he was an unlawful user or had an addiction to MJ or a narcotic, he answered, "No."

Once the Secret Service found out about the gun purchase, they had the ATF get involved and they recovered the paperwork for the purchase from the gun dealer. The SS has no record of the paperwork or their involvement. Meanwhile, Hunter's sister-in-law disposed of the gun into a trash receptacle across from a high school. According to Hunter, she did so thinking that Hunter was going to use the gun on himself. A man that had been dumpster diving for recyclables found the gun and turned it over, but I don't know to who.

When Halie, the S-I-L, told Hunter she tossed it into a trash receptacle, he went looking for it and so did the Delaware State Police. Evidently, they both met up at the trash receptacle. When Hunter was asked why he had the gun, he told the Trooper that he was using it for target practice. This is just about all that I can think of at the moment. Not that it matters, but Halie is Beau's, Hunter's brother's former girlfriend who Hunter now has a relationship with.

I think the Judge gave Hunter probation as long as he meets the requirements of the agreement. I don't know what the Judge's orders were, maybe community service or something similar to that.
 
Thank you for the background, @Been There ... proving once again that there's always a lot more to a story than we usually hear in the mainstream. I find myself wondering how they're going to deal with the "laptop situation."
 
Alligatorob said:
Does anyone have a clear and unbiased explanation of that as @Been There did for the gun charges?
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ohioboy seems to be able to provide court records of the judge's rulings, so that may be a good place to start. All that I had been able to find out was the judge did not dismiss the charges, but instead gave Hunter a sweetheart deal whereby; he (the judge) gave Hunter probation so long as he followed the rules set forth. If he violates the parole rules, he will again go before the judge, or at least that's the normal procedure.
 

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