I Can't Believe This!

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dusty

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Watching local news at 6pm just now and here was a bit about how disruptive mentally handicapped kids are handled at a norhern NYS grade school for these special kids.

Someone has built wooden boxes that are about 5'5" tal and square by about 3x3 with a door that can lock from the outside or not. When the child (they looked like ages 7ish up to preteens) acts up in the box they go.

I almost lost it! This was on my local news channel out of SYracuse, NY and involved northern NY up near the border. It seems all the bigwigs in the school district knew/knows about this.
 
dusty said:
Watching local news at 6pm just now and here was a bit about how disruptive mentally handicapped kids are handled at a norhern NYS grade school for these special kids.

Someone has built wooden boxes that are about 5'5" tal and square by about 3x3 with a door that can lock from the outside or not. When the child (they looked like ages 7ish up to preteens) acts up in the box they go.

I almost lost it! This was on my local news channel out of SYracuse, NY and involved northern NY up near the border. It seems all the bigwigs in the school district knew/knows about this.
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surely they will be charged with child abuse. I remember a few years ago watching a court case where the middle class parents had built a cage in their garage albeit the size of a small room.. for their young adopted teen son where they kept him locked in with just a bed, and a bucket and had installed cameras to watch him at all times ... and the lock to the door was on the outisde.. while the other kids were allowed to freely roam the house..

Timothy and Tracy Ferriter.
In 2022, police in Jupiter, Florida, discovered that the couple had been confining their 14-year-old adopted son to an 8-foot-by-8-foot windowless structure in their garage. The box—which the father had built—was equipped with an exterior deadbolt, an exterior light switch, and a surveillance camera. The teen was confined to the room for up to 18 hours a day, only allowed out to attend school or occasionally eat dinner.
Following their arrest, the legal outcomes were as follows:
  • Timothy Ferriter: Convicted of aggravated child abuse, false imprisonment, and child neglect. He was sentenced to 5 years in prison.
  • Tracy Ferriter: Avoided prison time by accepting a plea deal and pleading guilty to aggravated child abuse, false imprisonment, and child neglect. She received a sentence of 10 years probation and 1 year of house arrest.
 
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Muskrat said:
Someone did that to my kid and they would find themselves in the box....
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same , same !...no idle threat....

I always said if anyone harmed my daughter.. I would happily go to prison for what I did to them, and I would do it..no empty threats.. but I wouldn't kill them, I would maim them , shoot them in the kneecaps... shoot them in the elbows.. shoot them in the shoulders.. so for the rest of their lives they wouldn't be able to walk or lift anything without being in agony !
 
dusty said:
Watching local news at 6pm just now and here was a bit about how disruptive mentally handicapped kids are handled at a norhern NYS grade school for these special kids.

Someone has built wooden boxes that are about 5'5" tal and square by about 3x3 with a door that can lock from the outside or not. When the child (they looked like ages 7ish up to preteens) acts up in the box they go.

I almost lost it! This was on my local news channel out of SYracuse, NY and involved northern NY up near the border. It seems all the bigwigs in the school district knew/knows about this.
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They used to do that with the kids that had tourettes. I was never put in a box but I was forced to sit in the hall with the door closed and still expected to learn.

What they're doing is child abuse.
 
When I was in fourth grade our classroom had a storage area off the back, when bad the teacher would take you to the storage room, sit you in a chair and place a large cardboard box over you. I spent plenty of time in that box and am none the worse for it, at least I don't think it caused any long term damage, it also didn't make me behave any better.

Yet I certainly wouldn't have wanted my kids disaplined that way.
 
I hope getting this out in the open uses this for a example to others about what happens
when you abuse these children and what's going to happen to you legally and FAST.
 
We need more information. I know, I'm going against the grain here but I got my answer when they said the boy was autistic. And when the mother of the non verbal boy said he cried no, no, no when he saw the box. Non verbal means doesn't talk. How did he say no?

Some autistic children need a quiet safe place. If this was for him, I would have let him choose to enter the box to hide. But we don't know yet what the procedure was for him entering.
 
In Pennsylvania, this act would be enough for several felony charges to be enforced.
Child Endangerment
False Imprisonment
Unlawful Restraint

If the child was deprived food or first aid, its likely additional charges would be added.
 
robin416 said:
We need more information. I know, I'm going against the grain here but I got my answer when they said the boy was autistic. And when the mother of the non verbal boy said he cried no, no, no when he saw the box. Non verbal means doesn't talk. How did he say no?

Some autistic children need a quiet safe place. If this was for him, I would have let him choose to enter the box to hide. But we don't know yet what the procedure was for him entering.
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When they say non-verbal it means they can not carry a conversation, their vocabulary is very limited, usually no more than 3
small words they say regularly. They will jabber sounds more than words. So yes the child could have said No, very clearly,
expressing fear.
I have 2 grandsons with several benchmarks in more than one spectrum of Special needs and I can tell you either of those 2 would
have a panic attack placed in one of those. The one with a 2-3 year old mentality when he needs calm down time it means the room
is closing in on him. He is taken outside for space, he can use his headphones if he wishes while he just breathes and calms down.
 
IrishEyes said:
When they say non-verbal it means they can not carry a conversation, their vocabulary is very limited, usually no more than 3
small words they say regularly. They will jabber sounds more than words. So yes the child could have said No, very clearly,
expressing fear.
I have 2 grandsons with several benchmarks in more than one spectrum of Special needs and I can tell you either of those 2 would
have a panic attack placed in one of those. The one with a 2-3 year old mentality when he needs calm down time it means the room
is closing in on him. He is taken outside for space, he can use his headphones if he wishes while he just breathes and calms down.
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My point is, not every autistic child reacts in the same way. Some need that safe place, especially the reduction of noise.
 
robin416 said:
My point is, not every autistic child reacts in the same way. Some need that safe place, especially the reduction of noise.
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Understand that, it goes the same way with each case of these children. So how do they know beforehand which
is going to benefit from it and which is going to be traumatized? Plus as children do, as they age changes come
and reactions to things. I bet the benefit is much more accepted by the teachers than children.
 
Stuff like this just riles me to no end, gets my blood boiling.
Sh!te like this is one reason why our 45 year old daughter still lives at home and we would never put her in to a group home, the horror stories.
Fortunately she had wonderfull teachers thoughout her school years
 
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