I Hear English Changing

BeefStu said:
My Grandfather was a signalman during WW1. From what little talking he did about it with family members, he had a bad time of it and suffered from PTSD after he got home even though his only physical injury through the whole war was from playing baseball. He saw a lot of death. Though they would never have called it PTSD back then, I don't know what else anyone would call it. I managed to get a copy of his complete military records which made for interesting reading. I also inherited his gold watch that the Township gave him when he came home He was one of the best men I have ever known and I was fortunate to be able to spend a lot of time with him when I was young.
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How/where did you get records from that era?
If any exist for my grandfather, I'd like to see them.. but I was told long ago most old military records were lost in a fire where they were stored.
All I know is he served during WW1, but I have no other information.
(I never had the chance to know him, as he passed away before I was born.)
 
Ronni said:
More and more, nouns are being used as verbs with the addition of an extra letter or two. It’s called verbing.

For example: Instead of putting food on a plate, the food is plated. Google used to be a noun only. But now it’s a verb “I’m going to google it.” Text is another one. The noun “text” has been verbed to become an action word..”I’ll text you when I’m on the way. “

Some scholars are concerned that verbing is ruining the English language. I don’t agree. Language has always been fluid, is constantly evolving, more words and phrases are added to dictionaries every year, and thereby become official.

Verbing creates more efficiency and speed, sometimes replacing most of a sentence with less verbiage. “”I’ll send you a friend request” becomes “I’ll friend you”.

It also modernizes our language, keeping it relevant with current societal practice, and honestly it’s just fun!
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Also in today's world where everything including conversations are so fast paced it was bound to change. Most of it I get but some of it makes no sense to me.

*edited typo
 
BeefStu said:
My Grandfather was a signalman during WW1. From what little talking he did about it with family members, he had a bad time of it and suffered from PTSD after he got home even though his only physical injury through the whole war was from playing baseball. He saw a lot of death. Though they would never have called it PTSD back then, I don't know what else anyone would call it. I managed to get a copy of his complete military records which made for interesting reading. I also inherited his gold watch that the Township gave him when he came home He was one of the best men I have ever known and I was fortunate to be able to spend a lot of time with him when I was young.
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Beefstu. Of all the Allied nations that sent men to fight in France and Belgium, Canada has the most complete record system. The Archives and Library of Canada in Ottawa holds the entire military files for the over 625,000 men who served in the Canadian Army in WW1. As all of them are now deceased, anyone who wants to research a CEF member can do so, online and for free. I do some assisting of descendants of WW1 guys, who have trouble understanding the short forms and acronyms that are used in military records. The records for WW 2 are also available, provided the man is dead, or has given permission for ( usually ) a family member to get their service files.

The transfer of the written on paper WW1 files, to digitized computer files was a 14 year process undertaken by 2 generations of Canadian high school students. Imagine that ? Only in Canada, would that be done. JIMB>
 
Sunkist said:
How/where did you get records from that era?
If any exist for my grandfather, I'd like to see them.. but I was told long ago most old military records were lost in a fire where they were stored.
All I know is he served during WW1, but I have no other information.
(I never had the chance to know him, as he passed away before I was born.)
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I think that Beefstu's relative served in the Canadian Army in WW1. Canada has the most complete military records for both WW1 & WW2 and Korea. American military records are harder to do research on, for a number of reasons, such as the huge number of members (which total in the millions ) if you count the 2 world wars together. And yes a number of fires and or floods over the years also destroyed many individual records.
JIMB.
 
jimintoronto said:
I think that Beefstu's relative served in the Canadian Army in WW1. Canada has the most complete military records for both WW1 & WW2 and Korea. American military records are harder to do research on, for a number of reasons, such as the huge number of members (which total in the millions ) if you count the 2 world wars together. And yes a number of fires and or floods over the years also destroyed many individual records.
JIMB.
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Oh, ok. Thanks for the info!
 
Sunkist said:
Oh, ok. Thanks for the info!
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If you know the man's full name and date of birth and place of birth ( town city or village ) you can do searches on Ancestry.com or Goggle to find information about him. Obviously a man with an odd name like Lymon Goldfish will be easier to find than a James Madison. The internet is a huge repository of information, that I use all most daily for various searches.

A trivia bit about WW1.......About 40,000 US citizens came north and volunteered to join the Canadian Army between 1914 and 1917. My old Canadian Forces infantry Battalion, the 48th Highlanders of Canada, sent a 100 man recruiting team to NYC and Chicago in 1915, looking for British citizens who were living in the USA, to get them to sign up. Many US citizens also signed up. The 48th had one 130 man company made up of all Americans in 1918. During the First World War 4 Americans were awarded the Victoria Cross while serving with either British or Canadian units. During the US Civil War, 29 Canadians were awarded the Medal of Honor, and 4 Union Army Generals were born in Canada.
 
jimintoronto said:
If you know the man's full name and date of birth and place of birth ( town city or village ) you can do searches on Ancestry.com or Goggle to find information about him. Obviously a man with an odd name like Lymon Goldfish will be easier to find than a James Madison. The internet is a huge repository of information, that I use all most daily for various searches.

A trivia bit about WW1.......About 40,000 US citizens came north and volunteered to join the Canadian Army between 1914 and 1917. My old Canadian Forces infantry Battalion, the 48th Highlanders of Canada, sent a 100 man recruiting team to NYC and Chicago in 1915, looking for British citizens who were living in the USA, to get them to sign up. Many US citizens also signed up. The 48th had one 130 man company made up of all Americans in 1918. During the First World War 4 Americans were awarded the Victoria Cross while serving with either British or Canadian units. During the US Civil War, 29 Canadians were awarded the Medal of Honor, and 4 Union Army Generals were born in Canada.
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Thank you!!
 
BeefStu said:
My Grandfather was a signalman during WW1. From what little talking he did about it with family members, he had a bad time of it and suffered from PTSD after he got home even though his only physical injury through the whole war was from playing baseball. He saw a lot of death. Though they would never have called it PTSD back then, I don't know what else anyone would call it.
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I believe the term "shell shock" was coined during WWI. So PTSD has been around for a loooong time.
 
ChiroDoc said:
The corrupted version of "me" rather than "I" that one hears so often today drives me up a wall. Evidently Kids simply aren't properly taught grammar anymore...:confused:
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I have to apologise, about my grammar, I never studied
English, only the basics, my intention was that since I was,
going to be technical, I studied mathematics, not that I am
much good at that either.

Mike.
 
Mike said:
I have to apologise, about my grammar, I never studied
English, only the basics, my intention was that since I was,
going to be technical, I studied mathematics, not that I am
much good at that either.

Mike.
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Mike. Don't feel bad. I left high school at age 17, as I was bored and had little interest in the material being studied. As a result of my leaving, I never "learned the rules of grammar " in the English language. What I did do was READ everything I could on a wide spectrum of subjects. What that did was implant in my brain the right and wrong ways to write a sentence, or a paragraph. Essentially, I learned what proper grammar should "look like, and sound like ". JIMB>
 
jimintoronto said:
Beefstu. Of all the Allied nations that sent men to fight in France and Belgium, Canada has the most complete record system. The Archives and Library of Canada in Ottawa holds the entire military files for the over 625,000 men who served in the Canadian Army in WW1. As all of them are now deceased, anyone who wants to research a CEF member can do so, online and for free. I do some assisting of descendants of WW1 guys, who have trouble understanding the short forms and acronyms that are used in military records. The records for WW 2 are also available, provided the man is dead, or has given permission for ( usually ) a family member to get their service files.

The transfer of the written on paper WW1 files, to digitized computer files was a 14 year process undertaken by 2 generations of Canadian high school students. Imagine that ? Only in Canada, would that be done. JIMB>
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Thank you for the information. I should get my late Uncle's records some day. He was killed a day or so after D Day. He was my Grandfather's youngest son. It is kind of eerie, maybe ironic, but certainly coincidence that I was talking to my second wife's father one night about my Uncle so he asked some questions and then told me that either he or someone else in his unit picked up my Uncle's body after the battle. That is what his people did during the war.
 
BeefStu said:
Thank you for the information. I should get my late Uncle's records some day. He was killed a day or so after D Day. He was my Grandfather's youngest son. It is kind of eerie, maybe ironic, but certainly coincidence that I was talking to my second wife's father one night about my Uncle so he asked some questions and then told me that either he or someone else in his unit picked up my Uncle's body after the battle. That is what his people did during the war.
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Beefstu. In WW2, the Canadian units had special groups called war graves recovery teams. They moved behind the fighting front, to find and recover the dead men. Each infantry, artillery, tank, and engineer battalion had a religious officer, who had the task of keeping track of the men who had been killed from that unit. Map grid references were used to accurately record the temporary burial sites.

Temporary burial sites were established near to where the men were killed. Later the Graves recovery units would disinter the bodies and move them to larger and more permanent war grave locations. For example, in Italy there about 6500 Canadian military graves in 12 grave yards, which are, even today, maintained by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission . Each Canadian service man wore a 2 part identity disc set, which had their name, and service number and religious affiliation stamped into it. If the man was killed, one part of the ID disc was removed, and the other was placed in the man's mouth for future identification by the Graves recovery unit.

In 2026, we are still finding and identifying long dead Canadian military members from the Great War. DNA and other forensic testing is used to accurately identify the remains. They are buried with full military honors, by the modern day CAF unit that commemorates their WW1 battalion.

JIMB>
 
jimintoronto said:
Beefstu. In WW2, the Canadian units had special groups called war graves recovery teams. They moved behind the fighting front, to find and recover the dead men. Each infantry, artillery, tank, and engineer battalion had a religious officer, who had the task of keeping track of the men who had been killed from that unit. Map grid references were used to accurately record the temporary burial sites.

Temporary burial sites were established near to where the men were killed. Later the Graves recovery units would disinter the bodies and move them to larger and more permanent war grave locations. For example, in Italy there about 6500 Canadian military graves in 12 grave yards, which are, even today, maintained by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission . Each Canadian service man wore a 2 part identity disc set, which had their name, and service number and religious affiliation stamped into it. If the man was killed, one part of the ID disc was removed, and the other was placed in the man's mouth for future identification by the Graves recovery unit.

In 2026, we are still finding and identifying long dead Canadian military members from the Great War. DNA and other forensic testing is used to accurately identify the remains. They are buried with full military honors, by the modern day CAF unit that commemorates their WW1 battalion.

JIMB>
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"For example, in Italy there about 6500 Canadian military graves in 12 grave yards, which are, even today, maintained by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission ."
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My Uncle is buried in a very well maintained grave yard in France. For years, my Grandparents would receive a picture of his grave site.
 
Sunkist said:
How/where did you get records from that era?
If any exist for my grandfather, I'd like to see them.. but I was told long ago most old military records were lost in a fire where they were stored.
All I know is he served during WW1, but I have no other information.
(I never had the chance to know him, as he passed away before I was born.)
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P.S. Sorry, I didn't notice BeefStu is located in Canada.
 
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