I was disgusted many were not

gruntlabor said:
šŸ˜Ø I fear a hunter, Stand up and get shot at, even with a yellow hat.
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Where we used to live, thereā€™ was a 100 acre lot for sale. Hunters would leave apples out for the deer and then hunt them. It was about 300 feet from our house. After they hunted them, they skinned and cleaned them, leaving the remains right by the side of the road. I DO have a problem with that.
 

LoveTulips said:
Isn't it enough that it was shot either for food or (sickening thought) as a trophy? The instructor refused to take the photo/painting off FB. I'm having second thoughts of staying with this instructor. What do you think?
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Iā€™m entirely with you on this one. Disgusting!
 
The only real thing I know well from hunting season, living in Wisconsin, are the prostitutes I became friendly with who service the mostly married hunters each time they arrived. The women were not locals, but would arrive when hunting scheduled. One was a good friend of my friend, which is how I met the ladies.
 

It always amazes me how judgmental many people are!

In human history the killing of animals for food was REQUIRED to survive. In modern day, many people like to hunt and consume animals, including fish, birds and larger game. If you are one who criticizes people for this, you have to be a pure vegetarian or a hypocrite. If you are one, I will celebrate your right to say and think what you want. Beyond that I would say sit down and shut up. As you are in the minority...and we have a legal and ethical right to kill and consume animals, including those that we breed and grow for our own food, like chicken's, cattle, pigs, etc. If you eat any off those you are just a pure hypocrite! Therefore, move on...
 
Pepper said:
The only real thing I know well from hunting season, living in Wisconsin, are the prostitutes I became friendly with who service the mostly married hunters each time they arrived. The women were not locals, but would arrive when hunting scheduled. One was a good friend of my friend, which is how I met the ladies.
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That is just awful, so wrong.
 
PeppermintPatty said:
Where we used to live, thereā€™ was a 100 acre lot for sale. Hunters would leave apples out for the deer and then hunt them. It was about 300 feet from our house. After they hunted them, they skinned and cleaned them, leaving the remains right by the side of the road. I DO have a problem with that.
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What did the wardens/ police say when you contacted them?
 
January said:
I would not like a portrait or photo of that - but I can understand instructor leaving it up and just critiquing the painting style.
Regardless of what he personally thinks of the subject matter he is taking the view that his role is to instruct and critique painting not approve or police the subject matter.
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I feel like you do. Heā€™s an art instructor.

Since itā€™s a FB thread, anyone who doesnā€™t like it can block any posts from the person who created this drawing.

Mobilman44 said:
I certainly agree with the OP, but have to offer up that a high percentage of folks love to hunt and fish. Canada is a paradise for these folks, and to them there is nothing wrong about posting/painting their "accomplishments".
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It may be a paradise but the majority of us live in cities and will never hunt and fish.
 
PeppermintPatty said:
Where we used to live, thereā€™ was a 100 acre lot for sale. Hunters would leave apples out for the deer and then hunt them. It was about 300 feet from our house. After they hunted them, they skinned and cleaned them, leaving the remains right by the side of the road. I DO have a problem with that.
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Yes....I've seen too many rich land owners set up hunting grounds with very high fences and trucked in deer....charge the deer hunters several thousands dollars to hunt, then the hunters cut the heads off to be mounted in their already crowded trophy rooms...then they will brag to all the hunters down at the local Dairy Queen about their latest kill.
 
Jackie23 said:
Yes....I've seen too many rich land owners set up hunting grounds with very high fences and trucked in deer....charge the deer hunters several thousands dollars to hunt, then the hunters cut the heads off to be mounted in their already crowded trophy rooms...then they will brag to all the hunters down at the local Dairy Queen about their latest kill.
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I see you are in Texas - feral wild hogs are a problem, and here's a partial solution (as low as $2,995 per person):

Helicopter Hog Hunting Trips
 
Jackie23 said:
Yes....I've seen too many rich land owners set up hunting grounds with very high fences and trucked in deer....charge the deer hunters several thousands dollars to hunt, then the hunters cut the heads off to be mounted in their already crowded trophy rooms...then they will brag to all the hunters down at the local Dairy Queen about their latest kill.
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This type of thing totally disgusts me.
 
LoveTulips said:
So I belong to a FB group where we all paint portraits and it is run by an instructor/artist whom I have taken lessons from online. He's a nice guy the instructor. Anyways, I'm scrolling through the portraits of the members, and I come across this woman who wants a critique on her painting of her son with rifle in one hand and in the other hand holding up this gorgeous dead deer's head. There is the actual photo shown and the painting in progress.

So many, many people are commenting on how she can improve her painting including the instructor. Me, along with a few others are horrified to see this photo and painting. I totally get that some people still have to hunt for their food. I actually don't think that was the case here. To me, it looked like trophy hunting. Regardless, why in the world would you want a painting of this lovely creature who is now dead painted? Isn't it enough that it was shot either for food or (sickening thought) as a trophy? The instructor refused to take the photo/painting off FB. I'm having second thoughts of staying with this instructor. What do you think?
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You can make as many logical arguments as you want, both for and against staying in the group. But in the end, you have to follow your heart, and you clearly seem to feel that the group is now somehow tainted, tarnished. I think that in posting the thread you've kind of answered your own question šŸ¤—
 
LoveTulips said:
I totally get that some people still have to hunt for their food. I actually don't think that was the case here. To me, it looked like trophy hunting.
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It was probably both for food and trophy and his deer had to have been taken within the legal time-frame set by his state for annual herd management. Herd management is the reason people are allowed to hunt and most hunters consume their kills even when the goal is a trophy buck. Herd management experts seek to prevent disease and starvation caused by overpopulation by setting guidelines for how many and what age/sex deer can be killed in what time-frame on a year to year basis for each state. Many states that don't have enough recreational hunters hire professional shooters to cull overpopulated areas and donate the venison to charities.

I can see that it's shocking for you seeing a hunting pic, but it's also a terrible thing for those of us who live rurally to see starving deer in drought years. July is our primary fawn drop month and years that we experience extreme drought, August and Sept are brutal for does and their babies regardless of the best intentions of the herd management experts. Thankfully those years are rare.

As for the facebook group, isn't here a way to hide posts you don't wish to see again?

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AnnieA said:
It was probably both for food and trophy and his deer had to have been taken within the legal time-frame set by his state for annual herd management. Herd management is the reason people are allowed to hunt and most hunters consume their kills even when the goal is a trophy buck. Herd management experts seek to prevent disease and starvation caused by overpopulation by setting guidelines for how many and what age/sex deer can be killed in what time-frame on a year to year basis for each state. Many states that don't have enough recreational hunters hire professional shooters to cull overpopulated areas and donate the venison to charities.

I can see that it's shocking for you seeing a hunting pic, but it's also a terrible thing for those of us who live rurally to see starving deer in drought years. July is our primary fawn drop month and years that we experience extreme drought, August and Sept are brutal for does and their babies regardless of the best intentions of the herd management experts. Thankfully those years are rare.

As for the facebook group, isn't here a way to hide posts you don't wish to see again?
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For sure, I totally agree with you with all of the above. But do we actually need to have a painting of the killing to display in our home? Why did she not just paint a portrait of her son in all of his hunting gear only?? Do we really need to see him hold up the head of a dead deer? And yes, we can hide posts from that particular person.
 
Maybe someone already posted this...

In the US you can't just go shoot any deer, anywhere. You can only hunt specific breeds of deer where culling is needed to protect the ecosystem, and you can only take the males.

You buy a license, which is not cheap, and you get a tag. If that tag doesn't match the deer you take, you pay a heavy fine and lose your hunting privilege for a few years.

For decades now, deer hunting is sanctioned by Fish & Game as a means to cull areas of deer overpopulation. An over-population of deer will wipe out vegetation that supports other wildlife, such as certain birds that control the rodent population and spread plant seeds....and so on.
 
@LoveTulips I'm with you. I can't understand wanting to hunt down a creature you don't need for food. I understand there are areas where the deer population is too many, because of course, people have eradicated their natural predators. I find it so sad how things just worked in nature until people messed it up.

I was once stopped for as in Texas and looked over, a truck with 3 dead bucks. I wanted to scream. I think the day before those animals were out in the wild.
 
Murrmurr said:
Maybe someone already posted this...

In the US you can't just go shoot any deer, anywhere. You can only hunt specific breeds of deer where culling is needed to protect the ecosystem, and you can only take the males.

You buy a license, which is not cheap, and you get a tag. If that tag doesn't match the deer you take, you pay a heavy fine and lose your hunting privilege for a few years.

For decades now, deer hunting is sanctioned by Fish & Game as a means to cull areas of deer overpopulation. An over-population of deer will wipe out vegetation that supports other wildlife, such as certain birds that control the rodent population and spread plant seeds....and so on.
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Some others have posted similar, but some will never understand. They only see and hear what they want to, and they only listen to those who agree with them.
 
Doe permits are far from unheard of since they can easily become a greater scourge than the bucks. But the permitting is based on management goals, and often there is a lottery system for assigning them.
 
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