If reincarnation really exists

Dave comes home from the pub, drunkest he's been in a long time, and collapses into bed next to his sleeping wife. Later, he's woken by a brilliant flash of light at the end of his bed, which his still sleeping wife seems oblivious to. St. Peter appears in all his glory, standing over the two of them."You have died my son, of alcohol poisoning" says St. Peter. Dave is obviously distraught and begs and pleads with the saint to be given another chance at life.

"Well..." says St. Peter, thumbing through his saintly handbook, "There is a little known rule which might help. Apparently you can be reincarnated in special circumstances if you wish, but only as a dog or as a chicken I'm afraid.." Dave, living next door to a chicken farm, agrees to be reincarnated as a chicken, at least so he can still see his wife.

BOOM, the man is suddenly now a chicken, pecking around the chicken farm. A rooster approaches him and says "Hey! You must be the new arrival here! How's everything going?" "Pretty good" says Dave, "though my stomach feels a bit funny.." "Well you're obviously about to lay an egg! Give it a try; push one out!" So Dave wriggles and squirms and wriggles and squirms and out pops a nice egg!

"That felt great!" thinks Dave, "I think I'll lay another one!" So again he wriggles and squirms and wriggles and squirms and then !!BANG!! His wife angrily slaps him on the back of his head and screams in a rage: "For Christ's sake David!! You've shit the bed again!!!"
 

It's been a fear of mine for years that reincarnation is real. I don't want to come back. Death, though scary because of the unknown, seems restful to me.
 

If I HAD to come back...I'd want to come back as a Poppy..... they bloom in the sun and everybody loves them

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If I had a choice of coming back or just staying retired and following my gut, I’m sure you know what the answer would be. Haha

My 3 year old grand daughter has already grasped it all. “Daddy, I want you to do this for me!’
Pappa, come, sit down, read to me, MeMa you read to! Learning to obey are the hardest lessons to learn! …. :ROFLMAO:
 
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hollydolly said:
Would anybody be more likely to want to be reincarnated if they could be born into a different culture in a different country?
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I am in the minority on thus thread i not only believe in reincarnation but have memories of handful of past lives from various cultures over many centuries.

I am at a point where i hope i won't HAVE to come back but i might/could if i chose. When i was given the choice during my NDE it was made clear if i didn't return to this incarnation i would have to come back later to different life starting from scratch all over again, at the time it seemed better to finish this one out. And
i've not regretted my choice.
 
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feywon said:
I am in the minority on thus thread i not only believe in reincarnation but have memories of handful of past lives from various cultures over many centuries.

I am at a point where i hope i won't HAVE to come back but i might could if i chose. When i was given the choice during my NDE it was made clear if i didn't return to this incarnation i would have to come back later to different life starting from scratch all over again, at the time it seemed better to finish this one out. And
i've not regretted my choice.
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Did you get any assurance that if you did return and finish this one that you could finally be at rest?
 
AnnieA said:
Did you get any assurance that if you did return and finish this one that you could finally be at rest?
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More of an implication than an assurance. But the idea having to start from infancy (with new body, family, culture, circumstances) and relearn everything was an incentive to choose finishing this one instead.

Also, i saw and heard the sons i hadn't had yet,, tho at quite young age one said "We will need you!". That was an incentive as well.
 
Do I think I'm reincarnated? IDK. Sometimes I have moments of deja vu that make me wonder but I can't say for sure.

Would I want to be reborn? Not really. I'm looking forward to heaven and eternity. Not really wanting to return to this crappy world.

However, if I had to come back, I think I'd prefer to come back as a cat or something. I'm done with the whole people thing. ;)
 
hollydolly said:
yes same with many of us... but I guess we're talking about your soul being reborn into another entity
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If reincarnation in any form carried remnants of this life then no I would not want to be live again. It's not that I've had such a terrible life compared to some, but most of my life has been a struggle both physically and emotionally, and it's been exhausting.

The thought of having to live an entire life again bums me out.
 
C50 said:
If reincarnation in any form carried remnants of this life then no I would not want to be live again. It's not that I've had such a terrible life compared to some, but most of my life has been a struggle both physically and emotionally, and it's been exhausting.

The thought of having to live an entire life again bums me out.
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me too... I just don't want any part of living another life.... not unless I was guaranteed a good life,... otherwise I've had more than enough for 10 lives in this one life already
 
MarkD said:
For those interested in the phenomenon of past lives you might find this article interesting.

What If Science Tried Doing Without Materialism?
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I think the notion that we have all been a part of previous life forms is not merely opinion, but indisputable fact.
If you look at a forest, the trees there have died a million times over, but the forest is still there. The living trees and plants only exist by absorbing the previous ones. Animals are no different. The way a baby grows into an adult is by absorbing nutrients from nature. We only survive by consuming other things that are alive or were alive.

However, the concept of "self" is a different matter. I believe it is a construct of the mind (Neural connections). If you have ever observed a person with Alzheimer's, you notice the "self" slowly disappear. The regions of the brain and elements that make up the self are still there, but they just don't communicate anymore. If you could remove my neurons one by one, eventually my "self" would also slowly evaporate.

Anyway, I think the article is wrong in the conclusion, however, I do think it's possible that all forms of matter may have the tiniest elements of consciousness, and when those elements increasingly communicate, the "self" identity begins to emerge, even though it is a construct (A fabricated magic of the brain).

So we are reincarnated from previous life, but since memories are stored in the brain by connections between various regions, I would highly doubt that they transcend and are preserved by our transition to other life forms. Our bodies will decompose and be absorbed by a million other living things, but they will never be us (IMO).
 
bobcat said:
I think the notion that we have all been a part of previous life forms is not merely opinion, but indisputable fact.
If you look at a forest, the trees there have died a million times over, but the forest is still there. The living trees and plants only exist by absorbing the previous ones. Animals are no different. The way a baby grows into an adult is by absorbing nutrients from nature. We only survive by consuming other things that are alive or were alive.

However, the concept of "self" is a different matter. I believe it is a construct of the mind (Neural connections). If you have ever observed a person with Alzheimer's, you notice the "self" slowly disappear. The regions of the brain and elements that make up the self are still there, but they just don't communicate anymore. If you could remove my neurons one by one, eventually my "self" would also slowly evaporate.

Anyway, I think the article is wrong in the conclusion, however, I do think it's possible that all forms of matter may have the tiniest elements of consciousness, and when those elements increasingly communicate, the "self" identity begins to emerge, even though it is a construct (A fabricated magic of the brain).

So we are reincarnated from previous life, but since memories are stored in the brain by connections between various regions, I would highly doubt that they transcend and are preserved by our transition to other life forms. Our bodies will decompose and be absorbed by a million other living things, but they will never be us (IMO).
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I mostly agree with you. But I don’t think anything about this, whether confirming or negating will ever become a ‘fact’ since it involves what we are which is a process, not a thing we can distance ourselves from to study objectively.
 
I used to fervently believe in reincarnation. Then one day I said to my then-boyfriend I didn't like the idea of having to come back. And he said, "Then don't believe in it." I took his advice.
 
Sharing my opinion on reincarnation, which I have no clue is a thing, but if it is, my opinion is humans would come back as humans, animals would come back as animals, etc.. So, again in my opinion, coming back as a tall oak tree would Not be an option :coffee: Don...
 

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