In your opinion, what do we owe our adult children? or grandchildren?

I don't know about anybody else here but after two (2) Count them "TWO" failed marriages and a bit of children who my ex wives raised to be totally self indulgent, inconsiderate, greedy and existed to worship mammon i'd say if I were president of America there would be a a thousand question test before being legally married and a battery of five thousand question test a polygraph a financial statement and and an MMPI before having children. Well I said my piece make of it what you will.
 

"How sharper than a Serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child"
Or in my case 2 thankless adult children who are now in their 40's
I eventually got enough courage to leave my abusive ex-husband after 37 years of marriage
My children both blame me for the subsequent divorce from their father and my MIL blamed me too
The reason I mention my MIL is because ex was an only child and a boy and in her eyes he could do NO wrong
Even when he was being abusive somehow or other it was always my fault....like I asked for it....go figure
We have been estranged for many years and yes I do contact them regularly but never receive a reply
Do you know they have not once contacted me to ask how I am during this Pandemic
Just in case you are thinking I bullied my children as they were growing up....think again please
I would never smack my children unless they were in danger of hurting themselves
I had a lousy childhood and I was determined to give my 2 children a far better upbringing and I thought I had
I did not go back to work until they were at school and then only a part time job to help pay our house off
Not all family relationships are like the 'happy families' we see on TV
Fortunately my only sister and I have a good family bond and she and her 2 adult children will benefit from my estate
 
I'm sorry but I think everyone who chooses to bring a child into the world has certain obligations to them until they reach maturity both physically and mentally.
And the law agrees with you so far as obligations to your children physically, but not so much "mentally", or to their mental well being in my humble opinion. I say this because of my often stated reasons about "denying decent parents a rebuttable legal presumption in favour of contact with their children".

This is done on the basis, they claim, it would be against children's best interests to allow a rebuttable legal presumption of contact with decent parents. Whilst the law or its representatives are doing this, or administering the family law, they feel entitled to invade your private life up to and including asking your child whether they love you.

I believe such intrusion is harmful in itself, and it is worth restating that whilst family law professionals can destroy "okay" relationships between parents and their children, they can never force a reluctant parent to engage with their child well, or in a loving way. :sneaky:.
 

I don't know about anybody else here but after two (2) Count them "TWO" failed marriages and a bit of children who my ex wives raised to be totally self indulgent, inconsiderate, greedy and existed to worship mammon i'd say if I were president of America there would be a a thousand question test before being legally married and a battery of five thousand question test a polygraph a financial statement and and an MMPI before having children. Well I said my piece make of it what you will.
A very clear opinion, well stated, and I hope I can understand where you're coming from here. My only reservations would be those charged with the responsibility to check on others suitability for marriage, probably won't make good, happy, loving marriages of their own, and are more likely to be "busy bodies"! :rolleyes::cautious: .
 
I can't "forgive" you until you explain why you attached your reply to my reply?! It has nothing to do with what I said. Had me scratching my head like...WTH??!! Why are you trying to confuse an old lady?! :unsure::rolleyes::ROFLMAO: On the serious tip...sorry to read of the issues you've had with your daughter. Had your relationship been mended?
I've got no excuse, it was blatant abuse of forum rules, completely unjustified, and simply an expedient I indulged in, (maybe your heart is soft enough to forgive even so! 🙃😌😘 ).
 

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