India, China & the EU starting to ban single use plastics

Here, we've started implementing the banning of single use plastics several years ago...from stopping the use of free plastic carrier bags and replacing with woven or paper.... to changing from plastic straws to paper, and from plastic cutlery to balsa wood...

We're doing our best here, but still a long way to go.. but the concern for us all, is that if we replace plastic with paper, then we're going to have to plant a whole load more trees.. and that's not viable either.

When I was young we just didn't use single use plastics at all. We bought fluids in glass bottles, and we could take them back and have them refilled. We didn't have plastic carrier bags, we all used shopping bags made of leather or shopping trolleys. If we bough coffee in a cafe it came in a china cup.. we didn't ''take out''... although again here in the UK, the Large coffee chains, are trying their best by providing a system whereby they will fill your own cup rather than using a plastic take-away cup, and they all sell metal vacuum drinking bottles ( both my daughter and I, have those).. but it's slow off the ground, most people don't want to carry a cup around, they want the ease of buying a drink to take away and then just dispose

Much more needs to be done certainly.. I saw a doumentary about the plastics in our oceans, and the devastation it causes to wildlife, it's beyond anything you could imagine... ..but unless everyone does something..every country..everywhere in the world, the next generation are in real trouble!!
 
Everything we buy is in damn plastic, blister packs, etc. Look at just the yogurt aisle in a supermarket...who could believe how many little plastic containers of yogurt there are, not to mention cottage cheeses, sour cream...the whole dairy aisle is nothing but plastic!

Water bottles, juice bottles, milk bottles, bagged salads.... it goes on an on.

I wonder if any child's toy exists that's not made of plastic? Playsets, sandboxes, everything! It boggles the mind and I've only scratched the surface.
 
Here, we've started implementing the banning of single use plastics several years ago...from stopping the use of free plastic carrier bags and replacing with woven or paper.... to changing from plastic straws to paper, and from plastic cutlery to balsa wood...

We're doing our best here, but still a long way to go.. but the concern for us all, is that if we replace plastic with paper, then we're going to have to plant a whole load more trees.. and that's not viable either.

When I was young we just didn't use single use plastics at all. We bought fluids in glass bottles, and we could take them back and have them refilled. We didn't have plastic carrier bags, we all used shopping bags made of leather or shopping trolleys. If we bough coffee in a cafe it came in a china cup.. we didn't ''take out''... although again here in the UK, the Large coffee chains, are trying their best by providing a system whereby they will fill your own cup rather than using a plastic take-away cup, and they all sell metal vacuum drinking bottles ( both my daughter and I, have those).. but it's slow off the ground, most people don't want to carry a cup around, they want the ease of buying a drink to take away and then just dispose

Much more needs to be done certainly.. I saw a doumentary about the plastics in our oceans, and the devastation it causes to wildlife, it's beyond anything you could imagine... ..but unless everyone does something..every country..everywhere in the world, the next generation are in real trouble!!

When I was in your country, I remember seeing people shopping with luggage. I thought to myself how weird is that. About a month later, I had to go to Miami for a class for the PSP. While I was down there, I ran over to the one really big mall that's down there. I mean this place is huge. Anyway, there I saw the same thing going on. At first I thought people were just buying luggage, until I saw a girl make a purchase and then laid her suitcase on the floor and put her purchase inside.

We used to take the empty pop bottles back to the store for our deposit. We were paid 2 cents for a regular size bottle and 5 cents for a quart bottle.
 
When I was in your country, I remember seeing people shopping with luggage. I thought to myself how weird is that. About a month later, I had to go to Miami for a class for the PSP. While I was down there, I ran over to the one really big mall that's down there. I mean this place is huge. Anyway, there I saw the same thing going on. At first I thought people were just buying luggage, until I saw a girl make a purchase and then laid her suitcase on the floor and put her purchase inside.

We used to take the empty pop bottles back to the store for our deposit. We were paid 2 cents for a regular size bottle and 5 cents for a quart bottle.
Yes, you're quite right, mostly the younger generation will use a wheelie suitcase for their shopping. It looks more cool than a shopping trolley on wheels for them, and it makes a lot of sense because most wheeled luggage holds loads, and is pushed alongside you on 4 wheels, I I think it's a great idea..especially, as you discovered on your trip that generally speaking our Shopping Malls are enormous, sometimes 5 or 6 storeys high,(not including the rooftop and underground parking ) and many stores are 3 or 4 storeys high too, so using a piece of luggage instead of carrying plastic bags makes good sense all round!! :)
 
this needs to happen quickly -its getting to a very dangerous level …..
manufacturers need to follow suit.starting with milk containers all over the world ....
 
Shoplifting and product tampering brought about the need for extreme packaging such as hard blister pack/multiple over-wraps/shrink wrap. It's self-preservation for merchants but disaster for the planet.

How does the suitcase instead of carry bag thing work for places such as Walmart? Anything leaving store not in one of their carry bags must be inspected and receipts individually checked.
 
Several beverages will shift from plastic to aluminum in the near future. What this planet will be in 20 short years will look like is scary.
 
I can't wrap my head around the benefit of switching from plastic to aluminum or glass beverage containers.

I think that the beverage industry would be better off scrapping the ready-made products in favor of an at-home beverage system that uses branded pods. Imagine how much would be saved in transportation, handling, shelf space, etc...

https://www.coca-colacompany.com/st...ges-including-coca-cola-with-push-of-a-button
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I can't wrap my head around the benefit of switching from plastic to aluminum or glass beverage containers.

I think that the beverage industry would be better off scrapping the ready-made products in favor of an at-home beverage system that uses branded pods. Imagine how much would be saved in transportation, handling, shelf space, etc...

https://www.coca-colacompany.com/st...ges-including-coca-cola-with-push-of-a-button
keurig-kold1.rendition.320.179.png

Unfortunately, Keurig is the king of unrecylable waste. Their business model is built on providing machines for a somewhat reasonable cost, then gouging their customers on the pods (patented technology, so they get a percentage of every pod sold). Those disposable pods are difficult, impossible, or impractical to recycle.

I do have a Keurig coffeemaker, but have used third-party refillable pods for since the very beginning.

p.s. This Keurig Kold is not on their website. Since the article describing it was dated 2015, I'm guessing they either couldn't mass produce it, there wasn't sufficient interest, or it would be too costly to end users.
 
Unfortunately, Keurig is the king of unrecylable waste. Their business model is built on providing machines for a somewhat reasonable cost, then gouging their customers on the pods (patented technology, so they get a percentage of every pod sold). Those disposable pods are difficult, impossible, or impractical to recycle.

I do have a Keurig coffeemaker, but have used third-party refillable pods for since the very beginning.

p.s. This Keurig Kold is not on their website. Since the article describing it was dated 2015, I'm guessing they either couldn't mass produce it, there wasn't sufficient interest, or it would be too costly to end users.
The Keurig Kold was taken off the market for a variety of reasons.

I guess the point I was trying to make is that the technology is available to do away with millions of beverage bottles by using some type of in-home beverage dispenser that uses branded syrups. It could be pods it could be syrups and refillable CO2 cartridges or something entirely different. For some reason, we cling to old technology instead of reimagining the way we do things. It may be related to the cost involved in reinventing the way we do things, resistance to change, etc... I'm sure someone will figure it out.
 
The Keurig Kold was taken off the market for a variety of reasons.

I guess the point I was trying to make is that the technology is available to do away with millions of beverage bottles by using some type of in-home beverage dispenser that uses branded syrups. It could be pods it could be syrups and refillable CO2 cartridges or something entirely different. For some reason, we cling to old technology instead of reimagining the way we do things. It may be related to the cost involved in reinventing the way we do things, resistance to change, etc... I'm sure someone will figure it out.
There is the Soda Stream, it's been around awhile.
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I use those multiple use grocery bags, which you buy at the checkout. I have a bunch of them. I forgot them and the clerk put my stuff in plastic bags When it came to my bottled soda, he used two bags. Got home and put my stuff away and I was left with this huge wad of plastic bags. You kind of forget how many bags you do use.When multiplied by the millions and millions of homes, that is one huge, mega-pile of wadded up plastic. Then multiply that every week- then over years. We've created the Godzilla of unwanted, plastic grocery bags.
 
I use those multiple use grocery bags, which you buy at the checkout. I have a bunch of them. I forgot them and the clerk put my stuff in plastic bags When it came to my bottled soda, he used two bags. Got home and put my stuff away and I was left with this huge wad of plastic bags. You kind of forget how many bags you do use.When multiplied by the millions and millions of homes, that is one huge, mega-pile of wadded up plastic. Then multiply that every week- then over years. We've created the Godzilla of unwanted, plastic grocery bags.

Since 2010 Los Angeles has required many classes of retailers (grocers among them) to charge customers if they want bags. Many other counties adopted the same ordinance and by popular vote in 2016 the entire state of California did the same.

Sometimes I forget to bring bags in with me, in which case I either run back to my car to fetch them or simply have the clerk put the groceries back in my cart and I bag them when I get to my car.

Speaking of bags, since my kitchen remodel I have this arrangement in a lower cabinet (which I love). One for garbage the other for recyclables. We also keep a small bowl on the counter top for food waste for composting. I do NOT line the trash cans with plastic bags - which strikes me as a ridiculous waste. Trash goes straight into the cans and I simply wash them out when they get yucky.

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Switching away from plastic is because plastic is indestructible where as aluminum, glass and paper are easily recyclable. If you are not up on the threat of plastic to this planet google it looking for "plastic in our oceans". I recycle 100% of my paper & plastic trash.
Fact Sheet: Plastics in the Ocean


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EARTH DAY 2018 | END PLASTIC POLLUTION
Fact Sheet: Plastics in the Ocean

The billions upon billions of items of plastic waste choking our oceans, lakes, and rivers and piling up on land is more than unsightly and harmful to plants and wildlife.
The following 10 facts shed light on how plastic is proving dangerous to our planet, health, and wildlife. To learn more about the threat and impact of plastic pollution and to get tips to reduce your plastic consumption, download our Plastic Pollution Primer and Toolkit today!
FACT #1About 8 million metric tons of plastic are thrown into the ocean annually[1]. Of those, 236,000 tons are microplastics[2] – tiny pieces of broken-down plastic smaller than your little fingernail
FACT #2

There are five massive patches of plastic in the oceans around the world. These huge concentrations of plastic debris cover large swaths of the ocean; the one between California and Hawaii is the size of the state of Texas[3]
FACT #3

Every minute, one garbage truck of plastic is dumped into our oceans[4]
FACT #4The amount of plastic in the ocean is set to increase tenfold by 2020[5]
FACT #5By 2050 there will be more plastic in the oceans than there are fish (by weight)[6]
FACT #6Plastic is found in the ocean as far as 11km deep, meaning synthetic fibers have contaminated even the most remote places on Earth[7]
FACT #7Many marine organisms can’t distinguish common plastic items from food. Animals who eat plastic often starve because they can’t digest the plastic and it fills their stomachs, preventing them from eating real food[8]
FACT #8The likelihood of coral becoming diseased increases from 4% to 89% after coming in contact with marine plastic. It also damages the skin of coral, allowing infection[9]. Coral reefs are home to more than 25% of marine life.[10]
FACT #9There is more plastic than natural prey at the sea surface of the Great Pacific Garbage Patch, which means that organisms feeding at this area are likely to have plastic as a major component of their diets. For instance, sea turtles by-caught in fisheries operating within and around the patch can have up to 74% (by dry weight) of their diets composed of ocean plastics.[11]
FACT #10Many fish humans consume, including brown trout, cisco, and perch, have at one time or another, ingested plastic microfibers.[12]
[1] Jambeck, J. R., et al. ā€œPlastic Waste Inputs from Land into the Ocean.ā€ Science, vol. 347, no. 6223, 13 Feb. 2015, pp. 768–771., doi:10.1126/science.1260352.
[2] Erik van Sebille et al 2015 Environ. Res. Lett. 10 124006
[3] https://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/great-pacific-garbage-patch
 
I use those multiple use grocery bags, which you buy at the checkout. I have a bunch of them. I forgot them and the clerk put my stuff in plastic bags When it came to my bottled soda, he used two bags. Got home and put my stuff away and I was left with this huge wad of plastic bags. You kind of forget how many bags you do use.When multiplied by the millions and millions of homes, that is one huge, mega-pile of wadded up plastic. Then multiply that every week- then over years. We've created the Godzilla of unwanted, plastic grocery bags.
Don't your grocery stores have trash bins for those plastic sacks?
 
Perhaps we should get back to "pop" bottles, beer bottles, milk bottles, etc. I'm talking about GLASS bottles, that we returned for cleaning & re-filing. Remember when we [when kids] collected them for return [two cents per] then bought ?? with our earnings?

I do not remember this PLASTIC crisis when we were doing this.
 


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